Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, john j kinney wrote: > Also, read the Isopanishad "isa vasya idam sarvam" - one should only > take one's share of the resources; otherwise, he is branded as a theif > and will be punished by the laws of nature. Sometimes I wonder about what reactions one gets for virtually patronizing a "civilization" in which (among other things) some 5% of the world's population consumes 40% of the world's resources (so producing half the world's garbage). Less often, I think of the untold pain others have to undergo just to insure that the "lifestyle" of so few people can continue smoothly. Did the framers of the US constitution postulated such "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" as one's inalienable right? In Gita 2.47, Lord Krsna says our only right is labor, while we can't enjoy the results, can't think we produce them, and can't *not* do our work either. As "the Law" of nature, Maya also punishes us for neglecting our prescribed duties, which have been fairly well defined for every type of person, in many voluminous sastras; that's also "the Law." It isn't like Krsna wants everyone else to work hard in coal mines while he enjoys their wives, but the above does seem to leave us fewer choices than we might assume, if we wish to be dharmic. If we do, self realization, leading to Krsna consciousness, becomes much easier. > If > you couple this with the yuga dharma, as propounded by Lord Chaitanya, > that should keep you busy. Yes indeed. Moreover, Krsna Kaviraja Gosvami writes in Caitanya Caritamrta (Madhya-lila, 9.362): "In this Age of Kali there are no genuine religious principles other than those established by Vaisnava devotees and Vaisnava scriptures. This is the sum and substance of everything." There are even stronger statements from Srila Prabhupada, who sometimes seems to acquiesce that real varnasrama is practically impossible in this day and age (TLK, Ch. 8): "O learned one, in this iron age of Kali men have but short lives. They are quarrelsome, lazy, misguided, unlucky and, above all, always disturbed. (Bhag. 1.1.10) In this age, there will be insufficient rainfall and food, and the government will plunder ones income by heavy taxation. All of these characteristics of Kali-yuga are described in Srimad-Bhagavatam. People will become so disgusted that they will suddenly leave their wife and children and go to the forest. How can the peaceful varnasrama-dharma be revived when people are so harassed in this age? It is virtually impossible." We've all undoubtedly noticed this problem already. Still, he then asked us to do it anyway. As early as 1969, Srila Prabhupada clearly had this goal in mind (in a brahminical initiation lecture at New Vrndavana on 5/25/69): So we, our... One of the item of this mission, Krsna consciousness, is to establish real varnasrama by qualification. We have to pick up brahmanas from everywhere, throughout the whole world, not that we have to pick up brahmanas in India in some class. No. There are brahmanas every part of the world. We have to pick up. Just see. None of these boys are born in India or a brahmana family, but they have got the symptom. They have got the brahminical... They have either acquired willingly or by some way. So we have to pick up." Similarly, on 3/29/71 in a very instructive lecture in Mumbai, Srila Prabhupada noted the increasing prominence of illicit sex in the modern world, and said: "That has become a system, regular system in Europe and America. And India also it is going to be introduced very soon. It is already introduced, and it will develop. And in the Srimad-Bhagavatam there is foretelling that in this age there will be no more marriage. Vedic marriage will be stopped. Svikara eva ca udvahe. Simply by agreement, the marriage function will be performed. But as far as we are concerned, we are trying to establish daiva-varnasrama, as it is instructed by the Gosvamis, by Hari-bhakti-vilasa, by our spiritual master. May not be very perfect, but we are trying our best to introduce this daiva-varnasrama." Because we see more and more neglect of these principles in society, we consequently see more and more AIDs, crime, depression, terrorism, and many other social ills which obstruct everyone else's peaceful endeavors for Krsna consciousness. I'm told that 80% of Prabhupada's instructions on varnasrama were given in the last few years he was physically present; if that's true (which seems to be the case to me), I think it's telling. Maybe varnasrama in this age will never be wholly pure--but nothing in this world ever is. Srila Prabhupada knew all our endeavors would be colored by our threefold flaws (cf. Bhagavata 12.3.45-46), he nonetheless encouraged us to keep striving upwards anyway. To firmly believe that Krsna will protect us (as per his instruction in Gita 18.66) as long as we strive to please Him is one of the six aspects of surrender (saranagati). Of course, one pleases Krsna best by pleasing his pure devotees, through doing what they ask. There's an irony here, because usually surrendering to Krsna involves giving up relative dharmas like varnasrama (this, too, is clearly stated in Gita 18.66. But here we've been mandated to surrender by establishing varnasrama for the benefit of all mankind (presumably through our own examples)--for only human beings can take to Krsna consciousness, while only those who practice varnasrama-dharma are truly human beings (dharmasya hinah pasubhih samanah). Varnasrama principles are universal, and not necessarily stereotyped. > Remember in Kali Yuga, everyone is sudra or > less. This varna ashrama is something that does not exist today in > present India. That's clear enough to most of those I've met who were born in brahmana families; what was once a socio-religious system has gradually morphed into a socio-economic or political one, especially over the last few centuries. By the way, since you mentioned it, the traditional argument defending caste by birth is that one's guna (qualities) and karma (actions) determine one's birth (cf. Gita 4.13). In light of Bhagavata 3.31.1, it's diffiicult to explain why and how a brahminically qualified person would take birth in a low caste or outcaste family--even though many sastras tacitly acknowledge the possibility. While Srila Prabhupada propounds the pancaratrika brahminical initiation intended for this age, as well as the fact that the potency of bhakti can elevate anyone through Hari-kirtana and bhakta-seva, I've never seen him deny the above argument. He does occasionally acquiesce that disciplic succession occurs either by accepting instruction (sautra) or by birth (saukra); though the latter is usually discouraged (e.g., Bhagavata 7.5.31), it nonetheless relates closely to garbhadhana-samskara, which Prabhupada often encourages (e.g., Bhagavata 4.14.42). > What Srila Prabhupada was exponding was the training of > brahmins and ksaitriyas, because they are missing from today's society. Yes; in Ahmedabad (12/11/72) he said: "So this Krsna consciousness movement is meant for creating some real brahmana. At least, there may be head. They are all mad after the influence of the material energy. So there is need of some brahmana who can give advice to the people how to live, how to become God conscious, how to become happy. There is great need of this movement. Simply so-called classless society will not help us. That is not Vedic civilization." The immediate problems I can see in this is that people who've been socialized in the pseudo-egalitarian ideals of modern democracy, or what Prabhupada termed "so-called classless society," will hardly be eager to embrace social stratification--especially in a system which is also meant to destroy the defacto root of postmodern culture--viz., unregulated sense gratification. The question of adhikara (individual prerogative) seems an equally important concern, though probably more complicated; people shouldn't be stigmatized, nor glorified, merely on account of birth. But it is clear that Srila Prabhupada saw varnasrama-dharma as a universal reality, merely in need of the dynamic guidance from pure devotees--which Mahabharata holds to be the ultimate arbiters of dharma anyway. This universalistic conception tallies with both the philosophical and etymological meanings of the word "dharma," which respectively indicate, "inherent nature" and "sustenance." Dharma protects anyone who maintains it. Hence it was translated in Brhadaranyaka 2.5.11 as "the Law." Thanks for your comments. Hare Krsna! MDd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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