Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, M. Tandy wrote: > > By the way, since you mentioned it, the traditional argument > defending caste by birth is that one's guna (qualities) and karma > (actions) determine one's birth (cf. Gita 4.13). In light of > Bhagavata 3.31.1, it's diffiicult to explain why and how a > brahminically qualified person would take birth in a low caste or > outcaste family--even though many sastras tacitly acknowledge the > possibility. While Srila Prabhupada propounds the pancaratrika > brahminical initiation intended for this age, as well as the fact that > the potency of bhakti can elevate anyone through Hari-kirtana and > bhakta-seva, I've never seen him deny the above argument. Excellent post. For more information on this topic, I recommend the paper "The Ontological Position of the Vaisnava Over the Brahmana" at http://www.gosai.com/dvaita/madhvacarya/Brahmana-Vaisnava.html dnyaanesha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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