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Dear devotees,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

Valmiki chanted "maramaramara"; so he happened to chant 'Rama'. But why

did he become a devotee of Lord Ramacandra? Srila Prabhupada states

that "Rama" is also the name of Lord Balarama. So why didn't Valmiki

become a devotee of Lord Balarama?

 

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Dandavats. Jaya Prabhupada!

 

> Valmiki chanted "maramaramara"; so he happened to chant 'Rama'. But why

> did he become a devotee of Lord Ramacandra? Srila Prabhupada states

> that "Rama" is also the name of Lord Balarama.

 

There's also Parasurama, "axe Rama." But they're all

nondofferent.

 

According to Cc., Adilila, 5.132:

 

"In whatever form one knows the Lord, one speaks of Him in that

way. In this there is no falsity, since everything is possible in Krsna."

 

PURPORT

"In this connection we may mention an incident that took place between two

of our sannyasis while we were preaching the Hare Krsna maha-mantra in

Hyderabad. One of them stated that Hare Rama refers to Sri Balarama, and

the other protested that Hare Rama means Lord Rama. Ultimately the

controversy came to me, and I gave the decision that if someone says that

Rama in Hare Rama is Lord Ramacandra and someone else says that the Rama

in Hare Rama is Sri Balarama, both are correct because there is no difference

between Sri Balarama and Lord Rama. Here in Sri Caitanya-caritamrta we

find that Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami has stated the same conclusion:

yei yei rupe jane, sei taha kahe

sakala sambhave krsne, kichu mithya nahe

If someone calls Lord Ramacandra by the vibration Hare Rama, or if he

understands Ramacandra, he is quite right. Similarly, if one says that

Hare Rama means Sri Balarama, he is also right. Those who are aware of the

visnu-tattva do not fight over all these details."

 

Evidently he was more attracted to Rama (cf. Bhagavata 3.9.11).

 

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Correct me if I am mistaken, but isn't Parashuraama a shaktyaavesha

avataara? If yes, and that therefore he is an empowered jiva, where is

the question of him being nondifferent from Raama, the way Balaraama is

nondifferent from Raama?

 

Yours,

 

- K

 

 

M. Tandy [mpt]

 

> Valmiki chanted "maramaramara"; so he happened to chant 'Rama'. But

why

> did he become a devotee of Lord Ramacandra? Srila Prabhupada states

> that "Rama" is also the name of Lord Balarama.

 

There's also Parasurama, "axe Rama." But they're all

nondofferent.

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> Correct me if I am mistaken, but isn't Parashuraama a shaktyaavesha

> avataara? If yes, and that therefore he is an empowered jiva, where is

> the question of him being nondifferent from Raama, the way Balaraama is

> nondifferent from Raama?

 

Yes, he is a saktyavesa-avatara. He is also a lila-avatara. An

avatara of Vishnu is an avatara of Vishnu. This is a general identity, and

an acintya-bhedabheda tattva. Sometimes it's dangerous to make too much

of the distinctions here, because doing so nourishes a conditioned souls'

natural tendency to neglect the Lord in (or as) His innumerable nondual

manifestations--His immanent transcendence, so to speak. People also do

this to their gurus. However, we have to watch out for mayavada too.

 

Broadly speaking, karma and jnana are the two poles of maya

between which we all oscillate. Even more broadly, these two may represent

duality and nonduality respectively. Whether in yogamaya or mahamaya, one

of them (i.e., karma or jnana) will always dominate. Context determines

which one must be emphasized--or not--at any given time. Considering the

Srimad-Bhagavatam (cf., 1.3), and the acaryas' teachings, it seems that

Srila Prabhupada generally identified all the avataras as the Lord. This

is probably because we conditioned souls need to appreciate the tattva that

equates the Lord's multiforms before we can appreciate the rasas that

distinguish Them. Krsna regularly uses the word "tattvatah" in this sense

(i.e., sambandha-jnana) throughout the Gita.

 

MDd

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