Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- anonymous share markets and gambling --------------------------- My lengthly comments.... Naveen Krishna Prabhu, who was, or is, ISKCON's Minister of Finance, once told me in Alachua that the subject of the stock market once came up to Srila Prabhupada. Either Naveen asked himself, or someone else asked and Naveen was there, I don't remember which. Naveen told me that Srila Prabhupada answered that working with the stock market could be good, but you really need to know what you are doing. This makes a lot of sense to me, because in my personal experience, I see that investing/trading can definitely be a business, but you absolutely need to know what you are doing. Just like in any other business. I see the difference between business and gambling like this: The businessman has clear knowledge and experience of his particular business and has a very methodical business plan, part of which deals successfully with managing both the profit and the risk of that particular business. He must take chances and risks in order to grow, but they are planned, calculated risks. The speculator or gambler depends primarily on hope or chance and has no clear business plan. Any business whatsoever -- including running a restaurant, a shoe store, a dot com company, or one's personal investing/trading -- can easily be turned into a gamble by losing the knowledge aspect and the business plan and depending instead on hope or chance. Without a clear study of competitors in the area, or what foods the local clientele has interest in, or where is the best location, the restauranteur is gambling that his venture will be successful and will no doubt fail as a consequence. He will lose to the competitor across the street who has studied the facts and applied the knowledge necessary within a well thought out business plan. So any business can be treated in such a way that it becomes a gamble. The business world is full of stories of failure due to poor or non-existent business plans, and the markets are littered with people who have little or no knowledge of what they are doing, and have no clue of how to approach the subject of investing as a business (which takes much time and effort to do). Your words describing your understanding of what the markets are -- and your assumption of what they must be -- shows me that you would approach the markets not as a business but as a gamble, and that you would unfortunately pretty much "lose your kirta." Those that have learned to treat the markets as a business would take your money from you, just as in the restaurant example above. I assure you that it is possible to approach the markets with a clear business plan and business rules of money management and risk management, plus techniques of scientific technical analysis -- turning it into a manageable and profitable business. However, whenever devotees approach me to find out how they can do what I am doing, I discourage them 99% of the time for the following reasons: (1) The vast majority of devotees have neither the capital required or the time needed or the interest or the business-minded discipline critical for success in this and (2) The vast majority of devotees have a knee-jerk reaction when they hear the word stocks or investing, etc, and discount it immediately as gambling. And for them, since they look at it that way, it is! As we've discussed above, it depends on how you approach it. (Another philosophical point of difference between business and gambling: Many people define business as an activity in which some kind product needs to be produced to somehow benefit society, either directly or indirectly. This activity does not happen in gambling. For example, the stock and futures markets are, in fact, direct means of investing in the growth of major corporate businesses and therefore contribute directly in the ability of those businesses to grow and produce products. Gambling at a casino or at a race track does not produce any products, directly or indirectly, in that sense). Regarding types of investment, government bonds are a passive, very low risk investment that gives a very low return commensurate to that risk. This may be perfectly acceptable for one type of individual. Another individual who desires a more proactive involvement in investing should educate himself in the business of investing. If he can take that time, effort and expense to do so, his returns will be proportionately commensurate to his efforts. Like they are in with any other business. Hope you are well. Hare Krishna. ys, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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