Guest guest Posted April 4, 2002 Report Share Posted April 4, 2002 Dear Vaishnavas, Hare Krishna. Dandavats. Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada. When reading yesterday's BG verse where Krishna says, > For one who sees Me everywhere and sees everything in Me, I am never > lost, nor is he ever lost to Me. > PURPORT >A person in Krsna consciousness certainly sees Lord Krsna everywhere, >and he sees everything in Krsna. Such a person may appear to see all >separate manifestations of the material nature, but in each and every >instance he is conscious of Krsna, knowing that everything is a >manifestation of Krsna's energy. And comparing Sikshastakam verse 7 where Mahaprabhu says, yugayitam nimesena caksusa pravrsayitam sunyayitam jagat sarvam govinda-virahena me O Govinda! Feeling Your separations I am considering a moment to be like twelve years or more. Tears are flowing from my eyes like torrents of rain, and I am feeling all vacant in the world in Your absence. I couldn't understand the apparently contradicting views of the material world. If one sees Krishna everywhere as per the former verse, then why would he feel "vacant in the world" ? Can someone please enlighten me on this ? Also, at the last line of the purport Srila Prabhupada says "Such a yogi turns into a pure devotee and cannot bear to live for a moment without seeing the Lord within himself." which seems to be a paraphrase of the above Sikshastakam verse. Hare Krishna. Your servant, Jayendran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 Haribol There are three levels of love between the Lord and His devotees, specifically those in the conjugal rasa: the most basic is love in union, then in separation, then a higher separation with apparent neglect. Siksastakam 6 reflects the 1st stage. BG 6.30 also describes a basic form of love of Godhead which resembles the first stage. Siksastakam 7 and 8 describe the 2nd and 3rd stages, respectively. Also the divine couples Laksmi-Narayana, Sita Rama, and Radha Krishna reflect these three stages. In the case of Rama and Sita, They felt their love for each other in separation. In the case of Radha and Krishna, when They were separated by Krishna's departure out of Vrindavana, Srimati Radharani didn't know if Krishna even gave Her another thought, yet She still continued to love Him anyway. Therefore this is one reason Their love is considered to be of the highest caliber. Gerald S In a message dated 4/4/2002 9:13:12 PM EST, jaysri writes: << > For one who sees Me everywhere and sees everything in Me, I am never > lost, nor is he ever lost to Me. And comparing Sikshastakam verse 7 where Mahaprabhu says, yugayitam nimesena caksusa pravrsayitam sunyayitam jagat sarvam govinda-virahena me O Govinda! Feeling Your separations I am considering a moment to be like twelve years or more. Tears are flowing from my eyes like torrents of rain, and I am feeling all vacant in the world in Your absence. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 > I couldn't understand the apparently contradicting views of the > material world. > If one sees Krishna everywhere as per the former verse, then why would > he feel > "vacant in the world" ? Can someone please enlighten me on this ? This is an excellent question. I hope someone can offer an answer, because it is the kind of question that Achintya was formed to discuss. I myself do not know. I think it has something to do with either different levels of pure devotion, or some other distinction not obvious from just a literal reading of the verses. Hopefully someone can come up with a proper answer. Yours, - K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2002 Report Share Posted April 9, 2002 RE: Comparing BG 6.30 and Sikshastakam verse 7 > I couldn't understand the apparently contradicting views of the > material world. > If one sees Krishna everywhere as per the former verse, then why would > he feel > "vacant in the world" ? Can someone please enlighten me on this ? Hare Krsna My 2 cents worth on this one is its just like any personal item, say a toy or a shoe of your son will remind you of him. But it's still not the same as having your son in your vicinity. yhs Vidurpriya dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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