Any truly ordinary or fallen persons who become perfect?

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"KrsnaNama" <krsnanama prabhu wrote:

Any truly ordinary or fallen persons who

become perfect?

 

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Hare Krishna prabhus,

 

All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

Krishna Himself says in the Bhagawad Gita 9.30 that

even if a Krishna concious person commits the most

abominable act, if he is truly Krishna concious,

should be considered a saintly person.

 

So if such a person is to be considered saintly even

if he commits such abominable acts NOW, what to speak

of when they were not in Krishna conciousness.

 

Chapter 9. The Most Confidential Knowledge

 

TEXT 30

 

api cet su-duracaro

bhajate mam ananya-bhak

sadhur eva sa mantavyah

samyag vyavasito hi sah

 

TRANSLATION

Even if one commits the most abominable actions, if he

is engaged in devotional service, he is to be

considered saintly because he is properly situated.

 

Hence we should not try to find fault with what

saintly persons are doing. Not now, not ever. It is

really "Sant aparadh" to try and dig up dirt on highly

elevated souls.

 

This reminds me of a piece of advice that a saintly

devotee had given me a long time ago when I was just a

little kid. He said," When you go to the temple to

worship Krishna, that is the ONLY thing you do. To

remark or even to think that someone else around you

is not worshipping properly or doing this or that is

actually "nama aparadh" because while taking Krishna's

name, you are not paying attention and are thinking of

mundane things." As we devotees remind ourselves every

day while thinking of the ten offences: "It is also an

offence to be inattentive while chanting. Every

devotee who claims to be a Vaishnava must carefully

guard against these ten offences in order to quickly

achieve the desired success, Krushna prema."

 

Your humble servant,

Braja Hari das

 

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Bharat Kapadia

(Remember God lest God forgets you!)

 

 

 

 

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> BHAGAVAD-GITA 13:32

> Those with the vision of eternity can see that the imperishable soul

> is transcendental, eternal, and beyond the modes of nature. Despite

> contact with the material body, O Arjuna, the soul neither does

> anything nor is entangled.

>

> PURPORT

> A living entity appears to be born because of the birth of the

> material body, but actually the living entity is eternal; he is not

> born, and in spite of his being situated in a material body, he is

> transcendental and eternal. Thus he cannot be destroyed. By nature he

> is full of bliss. He does not engage himself in any material

> activities; therefore the activities performed due to his contact with

> material bodies do not entangle him.

 

If this is the case with any living being, how much more so is it

in the case of those who are actually aware of their eternal identity?

The nitya-siddhas like Bhaktivinoda Thakura are thus nitya-muktas too.

 

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