Guest guest Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 I don't believe that Bhaktivinoda Thakur was preaching "Adhunika-vAda", nor do I think this is Shukavak's position. He was interacting with modernity and felt that Gaudiya Vaishnava tradition had adequate resources confront it. As he got older, Bhaktivinoda became more concerned with other issues, like preaching the Janmasthan and engaging in pure bhajan. These two movements in his mirror the general 19th century Bengal movement from the Brahmo Samaj to the Ramakrishna Mission, from self-examination to exuberant confidence. This does not mean, however, that self-examination is not a continued necessity. It seems to me that Bhaktivinoda only touched the surface of the great challenges that modernity has made of religion, challenges that need to be answered in the language of modernity and not of tradition alone. The old wine needs to be put in new bottles, again. Read this statement, for instance, from Bhaktivinoda Thakur's Amnaya-sutra: Knowledge is like the sun, while all scriptures are only its rays. No single scripture could possibly contain all knowledge. The personal realizations (svataH siddha-jnAna) of the jivas are the basis of all scripture. These realizations should be recognized as the gifts of God Himself. The perceptive Rishis obtained this self-evident knowledge directly from the Supreme Brahman and wrote it down for the benefit of other jivas. A fractional portion of this knowledge has taken form as the Veda." (page 150) "A conditioned soul is advised to study the Veda with the help of all these explanations. But even with the help of these explanations, he should still examine them in the light of his own self-evident knowledge (or personal realizations), because the authors of these explanatory literatures and commentaries are not always clear in their meaning. In some cases, commentators have even confessed to having doubts about their own understanding. Therefore the Katha Upanishad says: avidyAyAm antare vartamAnAH svayaM dhIrAH paNDitaM manyamAnAH | dandramyamAnAH pariyanti mUDhAH andhenaiva nIyamAnA yathAndhAH || Abiding in the midst of ignorance, thinking themselves wise and learned, fools go aimlessly hither and thither, like blind led by the blind. (Katha Up. 2.5) Therefore, it is necessary to cultivate knowledge in the light of one's own personal realizations. This is the rule governing scriptural study. Since knowledge born of personal realization is the root of all the scriptures, how can we expect to gain benefit by ignoring it and depending exclusively on the scriptures, which are the branches growing out of it?" (pp. 151-152) Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 At 07:30 AM 12/4/02 -0800, you wrote: I don't believe that Bhaktivinoda Thakur was preaching "Adhunika-vAda", nor do I think this is Shukavak's position. He was interacting with modernity and felt that Gaudiya Vaishnava tradition had adequate resources confront it. As he got older, Bhaktivinoda became more concerned with other issues, like preaching the Janmasthan and engaging in pure bhajan. These two movements in his mirror the general 19th century Bengal movement from the Brahmo Samaj to the Ramakrishna Mission, from self-examination to exuberant confidence. This does not mean, however, that self-examination is not a continued necessity. It seems to me that Bhaktivinoda only touched the surface of the great challenges that modernity has made of religion, challenges that need to be answered in the language of modernity and not of tradition alone. The old wine needs to be put in new bottles, again. I meant to make a similar point. It's true, as Mukunda points out, that the adhunika-vada is mentioned in earlier texts of Bhaktivinoda's, but not in later texts. And he wasn't preaching rationalism, or his adhunika-vada (which admits some merit in reason) as the (or even a) preferred epistemology. Rather, it's a way of sorting through what's essential in a scripture and what's incidental (though I'd never stake my life or reputation on that choice of words--it's certainly not his) in order to present the essential teachings of Mahaprabhu and the Bhagavatam to modern people, influenced by European rationalism. And it's not the point of Shukavak's book, either. It's a fact that his project is scholarly, rather than devotional;he makes it very clear from the outset that his book does not present the hagiographic account devotees may be accustomed to or comfortable with. The point of the book is that Bhaktivinoda's life was a terribly rich tapestry. And, although I'm not always comfortable with things Shukavak writes, I find the book enhanced my faith in Bhaktivinoda and the revolution he brought to Mahaprabhu's movement, especially as carried on by Bhaktisiddhanta and Srila Prabhupada. I approached the book with caution, having met Shukavak 20 years ago, and aware of the changes in his relationship with ISKCON, but I was swept away by this dynamic personality who reached out beyond Bharat and made Krishna consciousness available to mlecchas. Even now, I would caution that A Hindu Encounter with Modernity is not a book for everyone. Over time, as Jagat points out, Bhaktivinoda focused other things, and his writing became progressively traditional in many ways (though no less revolutionary--consider how many orthodox vaishnavas felt about his preaching before he was initiated and how they must have felt about his writing in English and sending his book abroad), as did his practice. As far as SLJ, I've read it with interest, but nothing in it has challenged my faith in my guru-varga. Just some thoughts. I'll be quiet and sit down now. Babhru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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