Sri Guru

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Hare Krsna, dear devotees.

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

I have a question: is an individual soul has an eternal connection

with Sri Guru (even before one got initiated)? I mean, when they say,

"You must find who your Gurudev is", do they mean that I already have a

Gurudev, but I haven't found him yet? It's said "...janme janme prabhu

sei..." Does it mean that one particular person is one's Guru for all

lives?

 

--

Your servant,

Dennis. dennis_s

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On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Dennis A. Sushchenko wrote:

> I have a question: is an individual soul has an eternal connection

> with Sri Guru (even before one got initiated)? I mean, when they say,

> "You must find who your Gurudev is", do they mean that I already have a

> Gurudev, but I haven't found him yet? It's said "...janme janme prabhu

> sei..." Does it mean that one particular person is one's Guru for all

> lives?

 

It is implicit that one's guru is the same person eternally;

everyone's rasa is eternal, and it is the guru who trains one in raga

bhakti. To imply otherwise definitely has the psychological effect of

inhibiting full attachment and devotion to the guru, at least for most

people. However, it is equally important to keep in mind that the guru

is Krsna Himself--though he comes in the form of His best devotee, who

isn't Krsna. There may be no resolving this in terms of mundane logic,

but there isn't even any question in terms of practice: simply treat

the bonafide guru as your eternal master, and eternally treat him like

Krsna.

 

One way or another, and as hinted throughout the Gita, Krsna

ceaselessly arranges that those who want guidance will get it. This is

why it is important for His devotees to extend the Lord's Divine grace

worldwide, and why Lord Caitanya has ordered everyone to eventually

qualify as a bonafide guru to deliver others. In fact, ultimately Krsna

has no other interest but pleasing His devotees, so if anyone seeks a guru,

Krsna unfailingly reciprocates, exactly in proportion to the degree and

quality of one's spiritual hankering.

 

MDd

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achintya, "M. Tandy" <mpt@u...> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Dennis A. Sushchenko wrote:

> > I have a question: is an individual soul has an eternal connection

> > with Sri Guru (even before one got initiated)? I mean, when they

say,

> > "You must find who your Gurudev is", do they mean that I already

have a

> > Gurudev, but I haven't found him yet? It's said "...janme janme

prabhu

> > sei..." Does it mean that one particular person is one's Guru for

all

> > lives?

 

 

As I understand it, the living soul travels throughout the creationup

and down (brahmanda bhramite) until by good fortune one gets the

darshan of Sri Guru. By getting oneself initiated on the bhakti-marga

by such a guru, the eternal connection with Sri Guru is established.

 

This connection is indeed eternal. If by ill-luck one falls down from

the spiritual path, Sri Guru will again come to deliver him providing

that Sri Guru has not rejected such a disciple. I have read as much

in Srila Prabhupada's writings, though I am unable at this time to

provide a reference, my apologies.

 

In service of Gaura-Nitai,

 

Sanjay