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On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, Madhava wrote:

> Whatever Bhaktisiddhanta did, whether right or wrong, you should honestly

admit that it was different from the preceding tradition.>>

 

Yes! So should you and everyone else, because that's the only

reason you're discussing it here today.

 

MDd

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Ok, I did remember one more point I wanted to respond to:

 

achintya, "Madhava" <harekrishna@s...> wrote:

 

> Whatever Bhaktisiddhanta did, whether right or wrong, you should

honestly admit that it was different from the preceding tradition.

>

 

Well, Lord Chaitanya and many of His associates observed the

institution of varnaashrama, the renounced order of life, and wore

saffron cloth. What Srila Bhaktisiddhanta did was no different from

that.

 

More below.

 

 

> Renouncing varnasrama-dharma is in accordance with the instructions

of Sri Caitanya for the renunciate class of devotees.

>

 

All of the sources you quoted refer to devotees who are on the

platform of total surrender. They do not refer to ordinary devotees

with material desires. It would be wrong for ordinary people to

renounce varnaashrama dharma. I have already quoted from Vishnu

Puraana indicating that such people worship Lord Vishnu through

varnaashrama dharma, and the dire consequences (mentioned in Bhagavad-

Gita) for those who neglect scriptural injunctions. Even Shriimad

Bhaagavatam, the pure essence of Vedic literature, spends some time

discussing varnaashrama dharma.

 

Clearly, it is meant to be followed by those who are not

paramahamsas, and saying that it is not part of the Gaudiiya

tradition is wrong, unless you are saying that the Gaudiiya tradition

excludes everyone other than the cent percent surrendered devotees,

and is averse to Vedic regulations. The Gosvamis would not instruct

common people to just give up varnaashrama; that kind of renunciation

is only for the very advanced devotee. Asking a neophyte to give up

varnaashrama is defiance of shaastric regulations.

 

yours,

 

- K

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