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      I think there are some who think that the idea

that we are not the doers is for the realized person

and not for the unenlightened..Nothing can be farther

from the truth..People like to talk about Karma..How

our deeds or actions determine our destiny..I live in

a small  town in India and I find that most of the

people have the same traits and talk about the same

things and  act in the same idiotic ways.. So it just

goes to show that people act and behave according to

their conditioning.. People from a western society

prefer a non vegetarian diet to a vegetarian one..

Society has invented a moral code or dharma and this

code varies from region to region.. What is right in

one society for instance the practice of Sati

(immolating  a woman on the funeral pyre of her dead

husband)is condemned in other societies..

Discrimination against people of a lower caste has

religious sanction in  one society but is called

apartheid in one society and is condemened as  being

wrong.. So the point I am trying to make is that one

becomes a cannibal if one is born into a community

where cannibalism is practiced.  So we believe we have

the right to chosse between  what is right and wrong

but we don't..That is why over half of Germany sided

with a party that thought it was ok to wipe out an

entire race.. In India a poltical party that thinks it

is ok to discriminate against minorities and even

exterminate them was voted to power in its recent

history by the majority. Our conditioning or karma

makes us what we are..Good and bad are just

concepts..In order to know God we need to first of all

negate all the arisings of our mind.. Whatever arises

is not you.

      alec

 

 

 

 

 

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Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

I strongly object to the following comment made by Mr. Alakeshwar Jayanarayan. I am really surprised to read such irresposible political comments in our RamanaMaharshi group.

" ........ In India a poltical party that thinks it

is ok to discriminate against minorities and even

exterminate them was voted to power in its recent

history by the majority ....."

I humbly request moderators to discourage this type of irresponsible posts.

Dora

 

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Dear fellow Travelers,

 

The only reason I request that members apply restraint in posting

views on worldy matters is to respect the interest of the members who

have joined this group, who are followers of Bhagavan Ramana's

teachings and who are seeking inspiration from fellow travellers on

the spiritual path.

 

I am sure our fellow members will find other groups to exchange their

views on political or other matters

 

May Bhagavan guide us in our struggle for Eternal Peace!

 

Sivaramakrishna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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anbu Dora,

 

Indeed, it is the moderators' policy to edit out such matters, in

accordance with our list guidelines:

 

"Please note that this list is apolitical, please do not attempt to

initiate divisive discussions."

 

This one perhaps 'slipped through the net'; perhaps Alekeshwar acted

through the best of intentions, who knows?

 

Please rest assured that it is most certainly not our policy to allow

any political views on this list.

 

We reiterate that all posts on this list are devoted to Sri Bhagavan

Ramana Maharshi, his life, his writings, his works and anything directly

connected with him.

 

Thanks very much for your vigilance in bringing this matter to our

attention.

 

anbudan

 

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RamanaMaharshi, swathi dora <doraksp wrote:

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> Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

> I strongly object to the following comment made by Mr. Alakeshwar

Jayanarayan. I am really surprised to read such irresposible political

comments in our RamanaMaharshi group.

> " ........ In India a poltical party that thinks it

> is ok to discriminate against minorities and even

> exterminate them was voted to power in its recent

> history by the majority ....."

> I humbly request moderators to discourage this type of

irresponsible posts.

> Dora

>

> alakeshwar jayanarayan alakeshwar wrote:

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Moderators should consider discouraging members from using the forum to

propagate their personal agenda.

 

We all have a lot of conditioning (personal and social) which has made us forget our real Self. This group's aim is to shed the conditioning and realise the Self. I agree with Ms Dora that the mail of Mr Jayanarayan had a hidden agenda reflecting strong social conitioning.

 

Sachin

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The matter has already been attended to, and the thread is now

closed.

 

A warm welcome to newm members.

 

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> Moderators should consider discouraging members from using the forum

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> propagate their personal agenda.

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