Dehame Devalayam, Jeevude Sanathana Daivam

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

Could some one give more information on these words. These are the words in

one of the song which has impressed me very much. it says as " Dehame Raa

Devalayam, Jeevu De Sanathana Daivam" I felt this has a lot of powerful

meaning. Please throw some light on it.

 

Pranamams

Sreenivas

 

 

 

Azhvar EmberumAnAr JeeyAr ThiruvadigalE Saranam

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[Guest guest]

harE krShNa! AzhwArgaL thiruvadigaLE sharaNam! jay shrIlA praBhupAdha!

 

 

 

Dear Sri Sreenivas,

 

 

 

A true vaiShNava or a devotee of lord viShNu who knows Telugu will never

appreciate the song which you are telling. They are in the line of

mAyAvAdhis' concept, i.e. you god, me god and all are god. Follow the

meaning below:

 

 

 

1) dhEhamE rA dhEvAlayam = Our body is temple.

 

So the above line can be accepted only if our body is used for lord viShNu's

purpose, and it will be false if we use to enjoy materialistic desires.

 

 

 

2) jIvudE sanAthana dhaivam = The living entity or the jIvAthma is eternal

(sanAthana) god (dhaivam).

 

So again the above line is *false one*. If everyone (or jIvAthmas are god),

then why is there suffering every where? Why one cannot understand another

person's touch, sense, pleasure and pain? Why god should suffer? *Hence

jIvAthma cannot be god at any cost, *but always servant of god and this is

confirmed by all genuine AchAryas.

 

 

 

So to conclude, the song which you have mentioned is a mAyAvAdhis or "all

are god" conceptual.

 

 

 

- Balaji - The Servant of Devotees!

 

On 4/26/06, sreenivas_r <sreenivas_r (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Could some one give more information on these words. These are the words

> in

> one of the song which has impressed me very much. it says as " Dehame Raa

> Devalayam, Jeevu De Sanathana Daivam" I felt this has a lot of powerful

> meaning. Please throw some light on it.

>

> Pranamams

> Sreenivas

>

[Guest guest]

Srimathe Ramanujaya namaha

 

pranamam

 

i am not knowledgeable person, as general person i would like to say

something on this word

 

when we are going to temple how divinly we go with suchi & madi, similarly

our body also should be maintain divinly with suchi always. in that

jeevathma (representative of god) staying. it is like allowing divinely

accepted foods into body, and performing divine activities and so on.

 

this is thouget i got

some konwledgeable persons can enlighten us and correct me

thank you

[Guest guest]

Balaji A wrote:

 

> harE krShNa! AzhwArgaL thiruvadigaLE sharaNam! jay shrIlA praBhupAdha!

>

> 

>

> Dear Sri Sreenivas,

>

> 

>

> A true vaiShNava or a devotee of lord viShNu who knows Telugu will

> never appreciate the song which you are telling. They are in the line

> of mAyAvAdhis' concept, i.e. you god, me god and all are god. Follow

> the meaning below:

>

> 

>

> 1) dhEhamE rA dhEvAlayam = Our body is temple.

>

> So the above line can be accepted only if our body is used for lord

> viShNu's purpose, and it will be false if we use to enjoy

> materialistic desires.

>

> 

>

> 2) jIvudE sanAthana dhaivam = The living entity or the jIvAthma is

> eternal (sanAthana) god (dhaivam).

>

> So again the above line is *false one*. If everyone (or jIvAthmas are

> god), then why is there suffering every where? Why one cannot

> understand another person's touch, sense, pleasure and pain? Why god

> should suffer? *Hence jIvAthma cannot be god at any cost, *but always

> servant of god and this is confirmed by all genuine AchAryas.

>

> 

>

> So to conclude, the song which you have mentioned is a mAyAvAdhis or

> "all are god" conceptual.

>

> 

>

> - Balaji - The Servant of Devotees!

>

 

As a person having some limited knowledge of Telugu and the concepts of

the Alwars, I would beg to differ with Sri Balaji on simply tossing out

this verse as being "mayavada".  Although I could be wrong on this, it

would appear from the style of Telugu that this is from a composition of

Sri Annamacharya, who was a great devotee and a staunch Sri Vaishnava.

 

Sri Annamacharya utilized the Telugu language to bring the message of

the Alwars to the non-Tamil speaking populations.  Needless to say, some

poetic license may have had to be taken to hold the lyrical style, like

his use of the term "kaivalyam" in one composition - an advaitic terem

in Sanskrit - to reference paramapadam.

 

Taking this into consideration, jeeva could be interpreted in its

literal sense as soul, or in a more generic, poetic sense as life or

existence.  If the latter interpretation is taken, then it could be said

that the Supreme Being is the life of the living being within the body -

implying that the true nature of the soul is paritantriyam.

 

When I read the verse I was reminded of a statement from Kaisika

Puranam, in which Nampaduvan says "I live for the Truth, and Truth rests

on the Gunas".  In a literal sense this too could imply the advaitic

idea that Truth is the self; but from the vyakhyanam it is made clear

that the Truth is Sriman Narayana alone who finds His Rest in the soul,

and maintains the Gunas, i.e., maintaining the soul and its body.

 

adiyen

 

 

 

 

>

>

> On 4/26/06, *sreenivas_r* <sreenivas_r (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

> <sreenivas_r (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>> wrote:

>

>     Dear All,

>

>     Could some one give more information on these words. These are the

>     words in

>     one of the song which has impressed me very much. it says as "

>     Dehame Raa

>     Devalayam, Jeevu De Sanathana Daivam" I felt this has a lot of

>     powerful

>     meaning. Please throw some light on it.

>

>     Pranamams

>     Sreenivas

>

>

>

> Azhvar EmberumAnAr JeeyAr ThiruvadigalE Saranam

> Terms of Service.

[Guest guest]

harE krShNa! AzhwArgaL thiruvadigaLE sharaNam! jay shrIlA praBhupAdha!

 

 

 

Dear Devotee Sri Mohan Sagar,

 

 

 

In first para, you are telling, "*It would be* shrI annamAchArya's

composition".

 

So unless it is really shrI annamAchArya's song, your rest

points are irrelevant. Thanks for joining the krShNa kaTha discussion. Plus

or minus. krShNa kaTha discussion is always good.

 

 

 

- Balaji - The Servant of Devotees!