Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 regarding ayurveda, water and pH: ayurveda has nothing to say about the pH of water because the specific concept of acid and alkaline water wasn't known - its a (modern) scientific concept nonetheless, it appears that the acharyas knew well the benefits of different kinds of waters, and for this reason often recommended mineral-rich waters from glacial streams and artesian wells that tend to have a higher pH (i.e. are more alkaline); however, the acharyas also recommended rain water, which is naturally acidic because of dissolved gases like CO2 in it (HOWEVER - the pH of rain water depends on the region of evaporation and precipitation - in coastal regions the rain may contain more dissolved sea salt, whereas inland regions may contain more chalk, and this does not even factor into the equation all of the man-made pollutants like sulfur dioxide and heavy metals from industrial operations that can make the water very acidic in some regions) as far as glacial and well water goes, this is usually abundant in mineral salts, and it is this abundance of dissolved minerals that makes it "hard" two commonly dissolved salts in hard water are calcium and magnesium carbonates in water, these molecules dissolve to form ions: Ca2+ (calcium), Mg2+ (magnesium), CO32- (carbonate), HCO3- (bicarbonate) the carbonates and bicarbonates function as buffering agents, and directly influence the pH, i.e. the more carbonates, the greater the pH, the more alkaline in contrast, magnesium and calcium ions make the water harder, and while they can influence pH buffering, they do not directly contribute to the pH its important to note that buffering agents like carbonates are easily precipitated, for e.g. boiling water will precipitate buffers (and minerals), and cause them to build up as lime in your kettle in epidemiological studies, people that drink "hard" water appear to live longer, probably due to all the minerals and trace minerals in their water and the myriad health benefits these have, unlike what would be found in "soft" water, that is more acidic however, there are sooo many other factors that it is very difficult to reduce water a simple argument of pH as far as copper water goes, the pH would depend upon the water you put into it as a result of putting water into a copper vessel there may be more copper ions in the water, but this will not affect the pH because no buffering agents are released anyway, the purported benefits of using copper have nothing to do with affecting pH, but are related to the infusing the water with a particular kind of energetic vibration related to the copper itself - like doing the agni hotra in an inverted copper pyramid - perhaps Dr. Masaru Emoto has checked into copper water (?) Caldecott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Thank you so much for replying to my message. You have a lot of knowledge about all these things. Do you recommend Alkaline water? Do you think it can really help people combat all kinds of diseases as it says. Thanks again Himali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 hello himali how is it that this water is made alkaline - is it naturally occurring, or an additive? is this in reference to water "ionizers" available on the internet - if so, avoid these - they are nothing but an expensive scam that make all kinds of impossible and unproven claims - see more here: http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.html some of best waters are more alkaline because of their rich mineral content - but this is naturally so, not because bases have been added to the water to make it more alkaline - examples include glacial and artesian well water - these waters are also ancient, and thus often free of the contaminants you would find in surface water obviously not everybody has access to this kind of water, and thus most people have to drink surface water in some places you can collect the pure melting snow, and this can be very good - but its comparatively acidic - here i'm thinking of all the people that live in rural areas and rely upon snow melt for their water - i used to live in the mountains in canada, and this was the water we drank, day in and day out - it was very tasty, although because we didn't purify it we were always at risk of some kind of gastrointestinal infection this is important to mention, because there are only a few ways to safely purify water of microbial infection: the best and most simple way is to simple boil it for one minute - additives like chlorine, iodine, bleach etc. are also possible, but they seriously contaminate the water quality - there are also other filters (e.g. ceramic) that can be used in a pinch for the rest of us who have to drink municipal water, i recommend at least a high quality dual stage carbon filter - for added benefit reverse osmosis filters can be added between each carbon filter, but only the very best of these are actually worth it, and even then, are susceptible to microbial invasion - some studies have shown that reverse osmosis water is no better than drinking the municipal water in developing countries because microbes can invade the RO membranes distilled water is another method of purification, but this results in a neutral pH water, and will actually pull minerals OUT of your body if you consume it on a regular basis - for this reason its good for cleansing, but not for every day use dual stage carbon filters will give you a very good tasting and affordable water, and are often better quality than anything you can buy in a plastic bottle once you have this water you can then do various things to it to make it more healthful if the water has few dissolved minerals you add minerals back to it - there are companies that produce a trace mineral extract that you can add back to your water; but if the water is already rich in minerals then you needn't bother - you can usually get a copy of the analysis of your municipal water that is done by your local government once you have this water, you can do all manner of things to improve it - sun/moon infusions in crystal bowels, blessing it, chanting auspicious mantras, infusing it with herbs and flowers, etc, etc i will often shake my water to infuse it with more oxygen, so it has more of the quality of a fast moving river, which the acharyas consider best a Japanese fellow names Masaru Emoto has done some interesting research freezing water that has been "treated" by different methods (i.e. prayer, chanting etc.), and then photographing its frozen crystalline structure - water that has undergone these methods has a beautiful, geometric shape (http://www.hado.net/) todd caldecott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Thank you so much Todd. I appreciate your time and effort. I got this alkaline water from Alkalife.com and they wouldn't say how this water is made. I am sure it is not from natural resources. Hado.net was very informational as well. The website makes us think - that blessed waters must mean something. The priests in India often bless the waters while doing yagnas and let all the people drink it while doing puja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 > I got this alkaline water from Alkalife.com and they wouldn't say how > this water is made. I am sure it is not from natural resources. i checked out their website one product, described below: > Product features BicarboLifeTM is a patent-pending mineral dietary > supplement to add bicarbonates to the blood stream. Two tablets a day > is equivalent to 10 drops of AlkaLife®. It is much more convenient > than drinking 5 glasses of alkaline water a day. BicarboLifeTM comes > in a 60-tablet bottle, one month supply, and costs only $22.00, > shipping included. this is too much! you can buy a huge box of baking soda for $2-3, and add this to your water to "add bicarbonates to your blood stream"! without a doubt, this is a scam! consuming bicarbonates unchecked is potentially VERY dangerous - the blood needs to be kept within an optimal pH range, between 7.35 and 7.45 - any higher and the result to could be a life-threatening alkalosis! stick with Ayurveda! ksharas (alkalis) rich in bicarbonates are used in Ayurveda, but only in particular circumstances as a therapeutic agent - not for everyday use Caldecott todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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