Digest Number 886

[Guest guest]

I agree with Todd's observation in the last post.

Some authors use this forum to literally go on blabbering at length about issues

that are very peripheral to actual Ayurveda, and are trying to dominate this

column on a daily basis with all kinds of esoteric things that have no bearing

on anything other than general knowledge at best, and their own bias at worst.

Like this esoteric review about farming. Thanx for the info, but can we please

have a short, succinct, and to the point review, please? Of not more than 2 or

3 short paragraphs?

 

The basis of this column is Ayurveda, but I wonder if this column should become

a replacement of books, that the authors may wish to write in future, and be

filled with long treatises, and as Todd said "consume all this bandwidth". The

authors should presume that the average "columnist" here has knowledge of

Ayurveda, or is interested enough to read about it. This column in no shape or

form replaces any text books on this subject. Nor is it a column for people, not

trained in Ayurveda, to voice their bias.

Durgesh Mankikar,MD

 

 

 

 

ayurveda wrote:

Thu, 01 Sep 2005 07:53:47 -0000

"Shirish Bhate"

Application of energy principles in ayurvedic farming

 

In yesterdays post some cosmic principles used in ayurvedic gardening

based on energy principles were discussed. Today, we discuss how

these principles are applied in practice. Related issues are also

discussed. With the sale of multivitamins and food supliments now going out of

scope of OTC drugs, we should see if we can obviate use of the suppliments by

cultivating complete foods.

[Guest guest]

Dear Durgesh

 

Thanks for clear views expressed by you.

 

Some thoughts on what this group "should not discuss" are already

posted by Dr Phadke and others.

 

These thoughts also include a suggestion that no one should suggest

prescriptions of patent ayurvedic drugs or even drugs documented in

standard ayurvedic texts. Many Vaidyas in India have published many

books containing remedies to be prepared using herbs etc, in every

Indian language. And 99% of users of ayurveda (including some

Vaidyas) in India read these books written in simplicity and they do

not refer to Samhitas. Author does not understand why popular

Vaidyas wrote those simple books, despite knowing that they will

loose patients, as pateints will start self-medication. And these

days every local language newspapers in India, in its weekly Health

suppliment, publishes articles explaining simple remedies and drugs

for commonly occuring diseases. Homeopaths, ayuvedists and even

allopaths write these days simple to understand articles. One cant

say that everone who writes is trying to dominate the field or has

commercial motives.

 

Positive thoughts on what this group should discuss will be very much

welcome. Our archieves show one post by Dr Vidhyadhar asking

everyone to share their knowledge. Unless everyone comes forward

freely, posts can not become interesting. Further, since many

esteemed Vaidyas and MDs on this group do not post their thoughts

frequently. This gives an impression of "domination" by some authors. We will be

happy if people come forward to "dominate" in positive way. After all, acharyas

did dominate, hence we have ayurveda today.

 

"Desire to help" or "Desire to show deficiencies in system" can be

called bias, all of us have it.

 

In your words, this is a "internet chatroom". Unfortunately, other

than few, no one else is coming forward. Unless members come forward

and post their views freely, how others will know?

 

Though this post is addressed to Durgesh, authors requests all

members to express their expectations from this group. This will help

moderators to design shape and form of this group. Some of the

difficulties moderators face were already brought out in a post on 22nd

August. We are sharing our views (and putting up with each others bias) for last

four years. Members have already obtained a right to post their views and pinch

our ears if needed. Contrary to some opinions here, if you wish that "home

remedies" and "simple formulations" should be discussed, while treating it as

"no substitute" for ayurvedic consultation with a practitioner, you can say so.

 

Quality of herbs available in market motivated the posts on ayurvedic

farming. Lack of interest of people always working in comfortable "A.C."

environment of cities in farming is nothing new. Also, who will accept the work

of rural scientis for

publication or even read? In India, several farms have come for producing

ayurvedic herbs. Unless this knowledge goes to every courtyard, how we can say

ayurveda is living in every house. One of the cancer medicines is Tulsi, present

in every hindu house in India. Ayurveda has still survived all attacks on it,

only because of its "spiritual" and "esoteric" background. Most of ayurvedic

knowledge has come out of such philosophies, without laboratories or

post-martems. Most alternative theories share that. Vies expressed by you have

motivated this author to one more "esoteric but ayurvedic" post which shows

distinct difference between ayurveda and other "pathies".

 

Durgesh, moment ayurveda distances itself from people, or forgets "in

the service of mankind" attitude, ayurveda also will be forgotten.

Ramdev Maharaj is being followed by millions in India and now even in west only

because he is "with people".

 

Regards

Dr Bhate

 

 

 

ayurveda, durgesh mankikar

<d_mankikar> wrote:

> I agree with Todd's observation in the last post.

> Some authors use this forum to literally go on blabbering at length

about issues that are very peripheral to actual Ayurveda, and are

trying to dominate this column on a daily basis with all kinds of

esoteric things that have no bearing on anything other than general

knowledge at best, and their own bias at worst. Like this esoteric

review about farming. Thanx for the info, but can we please have a

short, succinct, and to the point review, please? Of not more than 2

or 3 short paragraphs?

>

> The basis of this column is Ayurveda, but I wonder if this column

should become a replacement of books, that the authors may wish to

write in future, and be filled with long treatises, and as Todd

said "consume all this bandwidth". The authors should presume that

the average "columnist" here has knowledge of Ayurveda, or is

interested enough to read about it. This column in no shape or form

replaces any text books on this subject. Nor is it a column for

people, not trained in Ayurveda, to voice their bias.

 

 

> Durgesh Mankikar,MD