Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 I have been taking various ayurvedic compounds over the years--Maharishi Ayurveda--many of which have licorice in them. After acquiring hypertension, I read somewhere in Nancy Lonsdorf's book "A Woman's Best Medicine" that people with hypertension should stear away from ingesting licorice. But, after consulting with the head of MA in Colorado, USA, I was instructed that when licorice is combined with other herbs in these age old ayurvedic formulas that it is not harmful to anyone. Do other ayurvedic doctors have any feedback on this? I have steered away from MA's Amrit products because they all have licorice in them and I thought I noticed my BP climbing after taking them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Dear Candace, That very often is the problem when you try to obtain info on drugs or herbs used in ayurveda from books on herbal medicine. Ayurveda has its own methodology of combining herbs and very often any ill-effects are negated by other herbs or substances in the formulation. Some very commonly used ayurvedic formulations contain herbs or plants which you would find on the toxic plants list in herbal medicine or botany. But the plants or herbs are processed and mixed with other herbs/plants/substances in such a way that their toxic effect is totally negated and only the beneficial part is obtained. Having said that even ingestion of licorice alone in proper dosage does not elevate blood pressure. But very often many ayurvedic herbs are passed of as nutritional items and hence their dosage is not regulated. In the recent controversy relating to the Lancet article, I was suprised to know that mahalaxmi vilas is sold as a over-the- counter product or rather off-the-shelf product when the fact is that even in India it should be sold strictly on prescription of an ayurvedic medical practioner only. Therefore there might be some other substance in the medications you are taking which might be elevating your BP. Cyervaidya. > After acquiring hypertension, I read somewhere in Nancy > Lonsdorf's book "A Woman's Best Medicine" that people with hypertension should stear away > from ingesting licorice. But, after consulting with the head of MA in Colorado, USA, I was > instructed that when licorice is combined with other herbs in these age old ayurvedic > formulas that it is not harmful to anyone. Do other ayurvedic doctors have any feedback on > this? I have steered away from MA's Amrit products because they all have licorice in them > and I thought I noticed my BP climbing after taking them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Just my two cents worth here guy's... I read that the FDA deemed licorice Harmful after some guy in England eats 5 pounds of real licorice. I am sorry, but if you eat 5 pounds of anything I would think it would raise your blood pressure. My advice to you is to get one of those automatic blood pressure cuffs and try a cup of licorice tea and see what happens. I think everybody should have one of these at home anyway. There a great tool for about 30 bucks and you can keep an eye on what is affecting you and what is not. Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology Dear Candace, Ayurveda has its own methodology of combining herbs and very often any ill-effects are negated by other herbs or substances in the formulation. Some very commonly used ayurvedic formulations contain herbs or plants which you would find on the toxic plants list in herbal medicine or botany. But the plants or herbs are processed and mixed with other herbs/plants/substances in such a way that their toxic effect is totally negated and only the beneficial part is obtained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Candace Cybervaidya and Noel have already cleared most of your doubts. Final proof is that Licorice (Jethimadh in indian language) is used in an anti-stress formulation of five herbs. (See message 3626, which illustrates how ayurveda is a hormonious syntehsis and not analysis using a science mindset.) A herb leading to hypertension, how can it be used in a formulation for anti-stress effect? after all stress and hypertension are just cause-effect duals. So head of MA in Colorado, USA, gave you correct info. Combining herbs is as skilled an art as indian cooking. A litle change and new receipe gets produced, having different taste or effects. Though using ready formulations produced by pharmacies is slowly picking up, compounding mixture of herbs for each patient still remains a sizeable practice, at least in villages. dr bhate ayurveda, "Candace" <cox-ct wrote: After acquiring hypertension, I read somewhere in Nancy > Lonsdorf's book "A Woman's Best Medicine" that people with hypertension should stear away > from ingesting licorice. But, after consulting with the head of MA in Colorado, USA, I was > instructed that when licorice is combined with other herbs in these age old ayurvedic > formulas that it is not harmful to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Wow, 5 pounds of licorice!!!! Over what duration? What was he trying to do or was it one of these controlled studies that are being conducted in the name of "science". If you drink 5 pounds of "amrut" which is the nectar of life, that will also lead to side-effects (maybe they will ban it then). What is urgently needed is an ultra-modern mental asylum for persons consuming any substances in such large quantities and more so for the guys who deem the substance harmful based on the incident. On a more serious note, many votaries of modern medicine shout from roof-tops that in order to prove or disprove the benefits of any drug it has to be administered to a large population under controlled conditions. How does one person consuming insane amounts of any drug fulfill the parameters to declare it harmful? Cybervaidya > Just my two cents worth here guy's... I read that the FDA deemed licorice > Harmful after some guy in England eats 5 pounds of real licorice. I am > sorry, but if you eat 5 pounds of anything I would think it would raise your > blood pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 This is why they banned comfrey here - same reason - overdose & ban - also Kava Kava - the Dutch eat liquorice by the kg - probably about 77% of those I care for are on anti-hypertensives. Jane > Wow, 5 pounds of licorice!!!! Over what duration? > What was he trying to do or was it one of these controlled studies > that are being conducted in the name of "science". > If you drink 5 pounds of "amrut" which is the nectar of life, that > will also lead to side-effects (maybe they will ban it then). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Jane, Do you have morre information about the ban on comfrey? I used to make kitcheree and put in fresh comfrey leaves but stopped after I heard about the ban. I was not sure if it was an FDA ineptness or a real problem so I erred on the side of being safe. GB Re: Is licorice harmful for hypertension This is why they banned comfrey here - same reason - overdose & ban - also Kava Kava - the Dutch eat liquorice by the kg - probably about 77% of those I care for are on anti-hypertensives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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