Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 There are certain breathing techniques, whose end result type is close to shirodhara results, but intensity is much less. Some of these techniques author practices daily. During one day if the numberof cycles performed is more, or relaxation techniques carried out at end are ended prematurely due to lack of time, then the symptoms described by you were experienced. Mild pain in a small cranial region close to temples, cold in scalp, shievering sessions for a 5-10 seconds along the spine, slight stiffness in rotating the neck for about 20 minutes after breathing session has been noted. Some of these come even after long meditation and nothing to worry about these. Central nervous system is adjusting itself to external stimulli, intervention etc. >From this experience, what author feels is that in case your shirodhara session has been going on for a time longer than necessary, this kind of temporary symptoms can be seen. Some relaxation (Shavasana, deep slow breathing ) may help in relieving the symptoms. The symptoms described by you were also sometimes experienced if Jal Neti water was more warm or contained more salt than correct quantity. The healers should take care that the treatments aimed at brain problems (Neti, Nasya, shirobasti, shirodhara) are timed according to patients requirement and time is only gradually increased. Adequate relaxation in case of excess is also a must. This brings to mind elaborate preparation ayurveda demands before giving few minutes Nasya procedure. This will be discussed in a separate post. dr bhate [Could not find the meaning of word shiffering in Merriam WEbster dictionary, hence assumed it is shievering] ayurveda, niqueveda <no_reply wrote: >i was wondering if any of you ayurvedic doctors/practitioners > have had experienced that patients undergoing shirodhara are having > the following effects: feeling of stiffness and cold in the > head/scalp, shiffering (mainly along the spine), uncontrolled slow > movement of the head (like headshaking "no")? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Dear Niqueveda, What you have mentioned are known as "vyapad" or symptoms arising from an improper application of any panchakarma procedre. I do not think stiffness can be induced, what your patient might be feeling is a sense of heaviness. This may result if the oil used for shirodhara is not lukewarm or the snehan-svedan preceding shirodhara is not performed or performed for a short duration. Even the feeling of cold is due to the same reason. Infact many people do catch a minor cold after shirodhara which ofcourse goes away on its own. Uncontolled slow movement of the head is not a common occurence if it was absent before the procedure. Choice of wrong oil or shirodhara substance (like butter-milk, decoction etc.), shirodhara in a patient contra-indicated for the same or short duration might induce this action. The solution is to give svedan (heat/steam) for a short time. If induced by shirodhara it should stop, else it merits further investigation and also contra-indicates for further sessions. Cybervaidya. > Hello, i was wondering if any of you ayurvedic doctors/practitioners > have had experienced that patients undergoing shirodhara are having > the following effects: feeling of stiffness and cold in the > head/scalp, shiffering (mainly along the spine), uncontrolled slow > movement of the head (like headshaking "no")? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Dr Bhate, Can you descibe the breathing excercises please! Thanks. Shirish Bhate <shirishbhate wrote: There are certain breathing techniques, whose end result type is close to shirodhara results, but intensity is much less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Sorry. These exercises have come from Tantric master of great order, difficult to teach over the net, as already remarked in some old postings. dr bhate ayurveda, Archana Gupta <amoona wrote: > Can you descibe the breathing excercises please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Thank you for your reply and explanation. I have done many shirodhara treatments but never experience these results before with any off my patients. I always build the time up during treatment days and look at what a patient can have. A few hours after treatment the patient told she was very relaxed and thoughtless and the cold and stiffness had gone. So she felt good. ayurveda, "Shirish Bhate" <shirishbhate wrote: > > There are certain breathing techniques, whose end result type is close > to shirodhara results, but intensity is much less. Some of these > techniques author practices daily. During one day if the numberof cycles > performed is more, or relaxation techniques carried out at end are > ended prematurely due to lack of time, then the symptoms described by > you were experienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Hello cybervaidya, you've got me confused, improper treatment and on the other hand catching a cold that is going away by itself? should catching a cold not be improper inducement? (patient did not get a cold by the way) Oil (did not use buttermilk or anyother) was lukewarm and the next time when laying under a blanked the feeling of cold did not appear. Concerning the headshaking I believe that the shirodhara induced some state of sleep but with some consciousness or awareness. and it felt not disturbing, but more like "rocking a craddle" thing, soothing and at the sametime Something like when you dream and something you dream about is what you do not want. While writing this it comes to my mind that later she told that she does not want to let go .... (and that is what she herself explained also that the stifness feeling was a feeling like hardheadedness/stubborn not to want let go the pain the troubled feeling) i believe the treatment was proper, she came out better then when she came in. thanks anyway. ayurveda, "Cybervaidya" <cybervaidya wrote: > I do not think stiffness can be induced, what your patient might be > feeling is a sense of heaviness. This may result if the oil used for > shirodhara is not lukewarm or the snehan-svedan preceding shirodhara > is not performed or performed for a short duration. Even the feeling > of cold is due to the same reason. Infact many people do catch a minor > cold after shirodhara which ofcourse goes away on its own. > Uncontolled slow movement of the head is not a common occurence if it > was absent before the procedure. Choice of wrong oil or shirodhara > substance (like butter-milk, decoction etc.), shirodhara in a patient > contra-indicated for the same or short duration might induce this > action. The solution is to give svedan (heat/steam) for a short time. > If induced by shirodhara it should stop, else it merits further > investigation and also contra-indicates for further sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Dear niqueveda, Catching a cold is indeed not the expected result if shirodhara is performed properly. However in a minority of the cases even when luke-warm oil is used the patient catches a cold. There is no need to give any type of treatment when this happens. In the next sitting most of them do not manifest this symptom. If they do then they are contra-indicated for shiro-dhara. Well a feeling like sitting in a rocking cradle actually indicates that the shiro-dhara sitting was beneficial to the patient. However in you original question you had mentioned symptoms like shivering, stiffness, uncontolled movement of the head etc. which made me reply that maybe there was something wrong with the way the procedure was performed. It is good to know that you are doing this form of treatment so meticulously and we would be glad if you could share some successful experiences with the group. Cybervaidya. > Hello cybervaidya, > you've got me confused, improper treatment and on the other hand > catching a cold that is going away by itself? should catching a cold > not be improper inducement? (patient did not get a cold by the way) > Oil (did not use buttermilk or anyother) was lukewarm and the next > time when laying under a blanked the feeling of cold did not appear. > Concerning the headshaking I believe that the shirodhara induced > some state of sleep but with some consciousness or awareness. and it > felt not disturbing, but more like "rocking a craddle" thing, > soothing and at the sametime Something like when you dream and > something you dream about is what you do not want. While writing > this it comes to my mind that later she told that she does not want > to let go .... (and that is what she herself explained also that the > stifness feeling was a feeling like hardheadedness/stubborn not to > want let go the pain the troubled feeling) > i believe the treatment was proper, she came out better then when > she came in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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