Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 What is an ego exactly, and how can a person function without it? MYSTIC -------------- Original message from Divakara Tanjore <div_tan >: -------------- Reiki works on healers intention, which has to be pureas the light, there is no ego attached to it.Om namah shivaya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 In a message dated 10/21/2005 8:26:04 PM Central Standard Time, MysticalRealm (AT) att (DOT) net writes: What is an ego exactly, and how can a person function without it? the ego is your self and all that you think about yourself. but lets rewind a bit for a brief definition. a bigger question might be, who am I, who is god, and how are we similiar or different.? imagine god is like a big bonfire. each soul of a person is a little spark that has flown off of that bonfire. us sparks are separate from god, we came from god, but our essence is the same as god. now when we think about ourself with questions like, who am I, what am I? we do not see that we are a spark. we see only a human body. this is a delusional view of ourself. this incorrect view of our self is called our ego. we are seeing our ego, our false self. the goal of true yoga is to remove our delusion (also called maya) so that we no longer see our ego...our body and sex and greed and interests....but rather we see that we are a spark. when/if you see that you are a spark it means more than just understanding the concept, it means also that you have achieved "sainthood". you have experienced the abscense of your ego. then you could function like buddha, basavanna, jesus, saint teresa of avila, etc etc. i could go on but maybe i have said enough and a servant should not have to many words lest he get egotistical and forget he needs to help sparks see their light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 In a message dated 10/22/2005 3:19:11 AM Central Standard Time, div_tan writes: If we give up ego completely and see our self as sparkor part of divine light we can see the real light yes then we have question next what is the process to see our self as spark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Beautifully explained, If we give up ego completely and see our self as spark or part of divine light we can see the real light, we can be part of the spiritul world. --- JCsharanananda wrote: > > In a message dated 10/21/2005 8:26:04 PM Central > Standard Time, > MysticalRealm writes: > > What is an ego exactly, and how can a person > function without it? > > > > the ego is your self and all that you think about > yourself. > but lets rewind a bit for a brief definition. > a bigger question might be, who am I, who is god, > and how are we similiar or > different.? > imagine god is like a big bonfire. each soul of a > person is a little spark > that has flown off of that bonfire. us sparks are > separate from god, we came > from god, but our essence is the same as god. > now when we think about ourself with questions like, > who am I, what am I? > we do not see that we are a spark. we see only a > human body. this is a > delusional view of ourself. this incorrect view of > our self is called our ego. > we are seeing our ego, our false self. the goal of > true yoga is to remove our > delusion (also called maya) so that we no longer > see our ego...our body and > sex and greed and interests....but rather we see > that we are a spark. > when/if you see that you are a spark it means more > than just understanding the > concept, it means also that you have achieved > "sainthood". you have experienced > the abscense of your ego. then you could function > like buddha, basavanna, > jesus, saint teresa of avila, etc etc. > i could go on but maybe i have said enough > and a servant should not have to many words > lest he get egotistical > and forget he needs to help sparks see their light > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 >From my experience self-realization makes us see our self as sparks or light of the supreme. This happens through acquiring knowledge, bhakti, .., and compassion. All knowlwdge and energy etc.. will lead to compassion. That is the reason all great people in this world are very compassionate people, they have the unbelievable power like god. For example, Mahatma Gandhi, a very simple and ordinary person from his looks, just wearing a dhoti, but look at what he achieved, can you believe he brought independence with non-voilence. how could he convince the people of non-voilence principle. I just cannot understand, that is the power of love and compassion, nothing can stop. Mahatma's self realization led him to believe he can achive the impossible. he had no ego, he gradully gave up ego, he is full of love. Om namah shivaya, Divakar. --- JCsharanananda wrote: > > In a message dated 10/22/2005 3:19:11 AM Central > Standard Time, > div_tan writes: > > If we give up ego completely and see our self as > spark > or part of divine light we can see the real light > > > yes > then we have question next > what is the process to see our self as spark? > Start your day with - Make it your home page! http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 can you please explain, what does "no room for knowledge" means... Thanks, Divakar. --- svc_astro <no_reply> wrote: > Very nice, > > In the house of Gurus (meenam) there is no room for > knowledge/intellect (debilitated Budha). The mind is > the king of the > senses, the breath is the king of the mind. > > Yes, when the AHAM is cut, AHAM-BRAHMASMI reveals. > > Om Tat Sat > > , > Divakara Tanjore > <div_tan> wrote: > > > > From my experience self-realization makes us see > our > > self as sparks or light of the supreme. This > happens > > through acquiring knowledge, bhakti, .., and > > compassion. All knowlwdge and energy etc.. will > lead > > to compassion. That is the reason all great people > in > > this world are very compassionate people, they > have > > the unbelievable power like god. For example, > Mahatma > > Gandhi, a very simple and ordinary person from his > > looks, just wearing a dhoti, but look at what he > > achieved, can you believe he brought independence > with > > non-voilence. how could he convince the people of > > non-voilence principle. I just cannot understand, > that > > is the power of love and compassion, nothing can > stop. > > > > Mahatma's self realization led him to believe he > can > > achive the impossible. > > > > he had no ego, he gradully gave up ego, he is full > of > > love. > > > > Om namah shivaya, > > Divakar. > > > > --- JCsharanananda@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > In a message dated 10/22/2005 3:19:11 AM Central > > > Standard Time, > > > div_tan writes: > > > > > > If we give up ego completely and see our self > as > > > spark > > > or part of divine light we can see the real > light > > > > > > > > > yes > > > then we have question next > > > what is the process to see our self as spark? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - Make it your home > page! > > http://www./r/hs > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - Make it your home page! http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 In a message dated 10/23/2005 2:37:24 AM Central Standard Time, div_tan writes: can you please explain, what does "no room forknowledge" means I am not sure what the person in the original post meant but I can give you my idea. Knowledge is produced by the mind. Some religious people get so addicted to knowledge of holy books they miss out on god. here is example..... there was a great sadhu who lived in the forest and his reputation was known far and wide for his wisdom and sadhana. Once there was a brahmin priest and great scholar of religion and vedas who was on a journey and when he heard about this wise mine he decided to visit him in the forest. The vedic scholar had to cross a large expanse of water in a boat to reach the wise hermit. he got out of the boat and approached the swamiji and asked him, "venerable swamiji please tell me what is your sadhana"? the hermit told the scholar his mantra which he had been chanting all day every day for years and years. "Oh", said the vedic scholar, "I am very sorry to inform you hermit that you are not reciting this mantra according to proper sanskrit pronounciation! You have been chanting that wrong all this time!" Then the vedic scholar turned around and left and got back on the boat. He began to go across the water when he looked back over his shoulder to where the hermit had been, and saw the hermit walking on the water! The sadhu walked to the middle of the lake, right up to the boat! and he said to the astonished and frightened vedic scholar, "Great teacher of knowledge please inform me of the correct way to pronounce my mantra so that I may gain some spiritual advancement in this life" Of course the vedic scholar saw that he was a fool for placing knowledge as important and begged the sadhu to be his swamiji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Great story, in God's kingdom compassion and bhakti has more importance than knowledge. I agree. Knowledge attained with pride is useless. --- JCsharanananda wrote: > > In a message dated 10/23/2005 2:37:24 AM Central > Standard Time, > div_tan writes: > > can you please explain, what does "no room for > knowledge" means > > > I am not sure what the person in the original post > meant but I can give you > my idea. Knowledge is produced by the mind. Some > religious people get so > addicted to knowledge of holy books they miss out on > god. > here is example..... > there was a great sadhu who lived in the forest and > his reputation was known > far and wide for his wisdom and sadhana. Once there > was a brahmin priest > and great scholar of religion and vedas who was on a > journey and when he heard > about this wise mine he decided to visit him in the > forest. > The vedic scholar had to cross a large expanse of > water in a boat to reach > the wise hermit. he got out of the boat and > approached the swamiji and asked > him, "venerable swamiji please tell me what is your > sadhana"? > the hermit told the scholar his mantra which he had > been chanting all day > every day for years and years. > "Oh", said the vedic scholar, "I am very sorry to > inform you hermit that you > are not reciting this mantra according to proper > sanskrit pronounciation! > You have been chanting that wrong all this time!" > Then the vedic scholar turned around and left and > got back on the boat. He > began to go across the water when he looked back > over his shoulder to where > the hermit had been, and saw the hermit walking on > the water! The sadhu > walked to the middle of the lake, right up to the > boat! and he said to the > astonished and frightened vedic scholar, "Great > teacher of knowledge please inform > me of the correct way to pronounce my mantra so > that I may gain some > spiritual advancement in this life" > Of course the vedic scholar saw that he was a fool > for placing knowledge as > important and begged the sadhu to be his swamiji. > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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