Science and religion in the modern world

[Guest guest]

Science and Religion are both after the Truth. That is, pure

science and pure religion.

 

Religion, specially the Vendanta philosophy of Hinduism has

proclaimed eons ago (and at least 7,000 years ago in the

researched history of mankind), that the Truth is Brahman or Tat.

This Brahman or Tat is both energy and intelligence that manifests

as the universe and all its contents.

 

Modern science is already on the way towards a unified theory of

everything, and only needs to account for how intelligence fits

into this theory.

 

So, pure science and pure religion are both good and necessary

for mankind's evolution towards the Truth.

 

Pure science, since it is after the Truth, cannot bother about the

repercussions of its revelations. Pure religion, in its essence,

is also not bothered about the acceptance or otherwise of the

Truth it proclaims. While pure science chooses a materialistic

path to the Truth, pure religion chooses a spiritual path.

 

Then why is the clash and strife between religion and science?

Actually, the clash and strife is not between pure science and

pure religion, but between applied science and applied religion.

To be precise, while this clash and strife is rampant in the case

of Semitic religions, it is far less marked in the case of Indian

religions, which from their origins have fostered the growth of

science.

 

For example, the four Upa-Vedas of Hinduism fostered the earliest

versions of science and art known to mankind: Ayurveda, which is

one of the current international buzzwords, is the science of

health. Dhanur veda is the science of weapons and the military.

Artha Shastra is political science. And Gandharva veda is the

science of music. Thus science has been a way of life and, along

with the six darshanas (philosopies) of Hinduism, an accepted path

to the Truth in the Indian culture, which is why the name Sanatana

Dharma (dharma that is universal), that unfortunately carries the

misnomer Hinduism as its name today.

 

So the clash is between the applied sciences and applied religions

and among the applied religions themselves. Both of them are bad,

to a lesser or a greater extent, and delay the spiritual progress

of mankind.

 

Technology, as the face of applied science, breeds desire in

common man and greed in the powerful, and in both cases, blunts

spirituality in man. As Buddha said, desire is the cause of all

miseries in the world. Since science is after all for the welfare

of mankind, why don't the countries pool their technological

resources and strive to establish a hunger-free and disease-free

mankind in all parts of the world, irrespective of creed and

color, which are supposedly the bane of applied religions? It is

not happening because of the greed (for wealth and power) of the

key players--nations, politicians, corporate houses and people

who matter.

 

Dogma and rituals, as the face of applied religions, divide

mankind even more than the applied sciences. They pamper the ego

of their followers: my god and my path are better than yours, or

worse, my god needs me to convert you to my path or kill you.

 

When the followers of applied religions unite with mutual

understanding, tolerance and help, then will be the time when

technology will be cleansed of its ill-effects. But this is not

going to happen in the foreseeable future, so the drama of strife

goes on, on the stage of this holy earth.

 

Regards,

saidevo

 

[Guest guest]

Respected Sir 'Pranams'.

Well said.

I also understood as follows "GOD has created

Universe, nature & creatures with interdependancy

for harmonious living with mutual & multy utility.

However,

humanbeings are bestowed with mind & intellect for

understanding &

enjoying the 'grace' of GOD as creator, sustainer &

destroyer as

natural process. Humans with intelligence & knowledge

are expected to nourish SATYA, DHARMA, SANTI, PREMA

and AHIMSA as their 'natural dharma and look

afterwellbeing of all living creatures.

 

Alas, humans along the times mis-interpreted the

'TRUTH' for 'brute force' and developed 'arishat

varga' which when applied in real life changed the

whole scene. Goodness, happiness, kindness etc. all

are replaced by evil ideas. Thus "KARMA BANDHAM" was

created and virtues of humans

extincted - heneous crimes sprung up.

 

Humans will be happy only when they worship GODPOWER

with all sincerety & earnestness (as other creatures

mutely acknowledge GOD presence & obey their natural

dharma).

 

ALL THIS IS GOD ALMIGHTY LEELA VINODAM. That is the

only answer. "

 

Sir, this is my impression. I beg to be corrected.

M.B.Prasada Rao.

 

--- saidevotee <saidevo wrote:

 

> Science and Religion are both after the Truth. That

> is, pure

> science and pure religion.

>

> Religion, specially the Vendanta philosophy of

> Hinduism has

> proclaimed eons ago (and at least 7,000 years ago in

> the

> researched history of mankind), that the Truth is

> Brahman or Tat.

> This Brahman or Tat is both energy and intelligence

> that manifests

> as the universe and all its contents.

>

> Modern science is already on the way towards a

> unified theory of

> everything, and only needs to account for how

> intelligence fits

> into this theory.

>

> So, pure science and pure religion are both good and

> necessary

> for mankind's evolution towards the Truth.

>

> Pure science, since it is after the Truth, cannot

> bother about the

> repercussions of its revelations. Pure religion, in

> its essence,

> is also not bothered about the acceptance or

> otherwise of the

> Truth it proclaims. While pure science chooses a

> materialistic

> path to the Truth, pure religion chooses a spiritual

> path.

>

> Then why is the clash and strife between religion

> and science?

> Actually, the clash and strife is not between pure

> science and

> pure religion, but between applied science and

> applied religion.

> To be precise, while this clash and strife is

> rampant in the case

> of Semitic religions, it is far less marked in the

> case of Indian

> religions, which from their origins have fostered

> the growth of

> science.

>

> For example, the four Upa-Vedas of Hinduism fostered

> the earliest

> versions of science and art known to mankind:

> Ayurveda, which is

> one of the current international buzzwords, is the

> science of

> health. Dhanur veda is the science of weapons and

> the military.

> Artha Shastra is political science. And Gandharva

> veda is the

> science of music. Thus science has been a way of

> life and, along

> with the six darshanas (philosopies) of Hinduism, an

> accepted path

> to the Truth in the Indian culture, which is why the

> name Sanatana

> Dharma (dharma that is universal), that

> unfortunately carries the

> misnomer Hinduism as its name today.

>

> So the clash is between the applied sciences and

> applied religions

> and among the applied religions themselves. Both of

> them are bad,

> to a lesser or a greater extent, and delay the

> spiritual progress

> of mankind.

>

> Technology, as the face of applied science, breeds

> desire in

> common man and greed in the powerful, and in both

> cases, blunts

> spirituality in man. As Buddha said, desire is the

> cause of all

> miseries in the world. Since science is after all

> for the welfare

> of mankind, why don't the countries pool their

> technological

> resources and strive to establish a hunger-free and

> disease-free

> mankind in all parts of the world, irrespective of

> creed and

> color, which are supposedly the bane of applied

> religions? It is

> not happening because of the greed (for wealth and

> power) of the

> key players--nations, politicians, corporate houses

> and people

> who matter.

>

> Dogma and rituals, as the face of applied religions,

> divide

> mankind even more than the applied sciences. They

> pamper the ego

> of their followers: my god and my path are better

> than yours, or

> worse, my god needs me to convert you to my path or

> kill you.

>

> When the followers of applied religions unite with

> mutual

> understanding, tolerance and help, then will be the

> time when

> technology will be cleansed of its ill-effects. But

> this is not

> going to happen in the foreseeable future, so the

> drama of strife

> goes on, on the stage of this holy earth.

>

> Regards,

> saidevo

>

 

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Prasada Rao ji,

 

I think you are right in your observations. God created humans

and gave them spiritual faculties and freewill, in order to live

a harmonious life, uplift all that lives in this universe,

and forever remember their Creator. Human birth is attained

after evolution of the soul through the mineral, vegetable and

animal kingdoms. Out of sheer ignorance, people of different

faiths are acrimonious and intolerent to each other group.

 

Thanks for sharing your views.

Regards,

saidevo

 

, prasadarao

madhunapantula <prasadaraom> wrote:

>

> Respected Sir 'Pranams'.

> Well said.

> I also understood as follows "GOD has created

> Universe, nature & creatures with interdependancy

> for harmonious living with mutual & multy utility.

> However,

> humanbeings are bestowed with mind & intellect for

> understanding &

> enjoying the 'grace' of GOD as creator, sustainer &

> destroyer as

> natural process. Humans with intelligence & knowledge

> are expected to nourish SATYA, DHARMA, SANTI, PREMA

> and AHIMSA as their 'natural dharma and look

> afterwellbeing of all living creatures.

>

> Alas, humans along the times mis-interpreted the

> 'TRUTH' for 'brute force' and developed 'arishat

> varga' which when applied in real life changed the

> whole scene. Goodness, happiness, kindness etc. all

> are replaced by evil ideas. Thus "KARMA BANDHAM" was

> created and virtues of humans

> extincted - heneous crimes sprung up.

>

> Humans will be happy only when they worship GODPOWER

> with all sincerety & earnestness (as other creatures

> mutely acknowledge GOD presence & obey their natural

> dharma).

>

> ALL THIS IS GOD ALMIGHTY LEELA VINODAM. That is the

> only answer. "

>

> Sir, this is my impression. I beg to be corrected.

> M.B.Prasada Rao.