Guest guest Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 In Sanskrit, "Pushparaag" always referred to yellow sapphire. The Hindi word, "Pukh raaj" is also supposed to mean yellow sapphire, and that is how it is known in the trade, such as in Jaipur or Kambaat. But somehow it has become confused with Yellow Topaz, which is what most people in India use for Jupiter. In 1974, after spending 7 years learning Sanskrit, my karma drove me from Vrindavan to Hyderabad. A "secret" Ruby mine had been uncovered, it was being developed with the Hyderabad family by my old California friend whom I hadn't seen in 7 years (the ashram where I spent 7 years in Vrindavan had NO westerners but me. No one spoke English except the Guru. So I had to learn Bengali to converse in the ashram, and also learn Hindi to converse OUTside the ashram, as well as learn Sanskrit so I could enter the heart of the mysteries. Anyway I'm telling this just to entertain you. At the mine, outside Hyderabad, AP, I was deputed to Bombay with 5 KG of rough rubies and told to enter the market using my Hindi and sell the rough. That is another story. It was then that I started buying Hindi and English books on gems, and the few books there were all spoke about what is (since 1982) known as "Planetary Gemology". One book was named "Rasi-or-ratna", another book was Graha-gochar jyotish, and (in Eng., "The occult powers of gems" by Scherman, and there was one author, late Raaj Roop Tank of Jaipur, that also explained Planetary Gemology basics in his book named "Indian Gemology" published in 1971. In 1974 I went to Jaipur to study under Sri Raaj Roop Tank and was able to do so. He was very kind and I could say a lot about that, but keeping to the point, I asked him why yellow corundum was called "Push raja" when it is always called "Pushparaag" in all the Sanskrit texts. He told me that "Pukh raaj" was Hindi name, representing - what should be yellow sapphire - but in fact almost 90% of common Indian only ever heard of the name "Pukh Raaj" to mean the yellow gem, the Guru ratna, which in fact they are all using "yellow topaz" because yellow sapphire comes from outside India, and is very costly. And it had become so ingrained that even in Jaipur market when ever they are selling yellow topaz (and they are always selling topaz) that it was called as Pukh Raaj and this is how the Indians called it. So I asked how does the common man know about yellow sapphire? He said in fact the people don't know the difference... it's all topaz, and it's called "Pukh Raaj" and that's life in India. He also explained that gems needed to be flawless to work good, and yellow corundum in flawless quality could cost a small fortune if not a big one. So it was simply cost prohibitive in India (then) and yellow topaz was in fact being sold to the public as "Pukh Raaj. Common Indian has never heard the word "Pushaparaaj" unless they would have studied gemology IN Sanskrit... which is hardly the case. What the Bombay, Jaipur, Kambaat markets all have in common is selling yellow topaz to the public as the gem for Jupiter named Pukh Raaj. And this is the fact of he matter. Sri Tank ji told me that only the poor people believed in Planetary Gemology, and yellow sapphire is VERY expensive, so golden topaz had become "Pukh Raaj" or Guru Ratna. He said the rich Indian's who could easily afford the best of gems, they were hardly interested. So it is with the masses of India that it is normal to sell topaz as yellow sapphire named in Hindi as Pukh Raaj. So in common usage the truth has become nontruth. In fact Pukh Raaj is Hindi, denoting the mega expensive yellow sapphire that no common Indian has ever heard of, but in fact BEING yellow topaz. There is no lie because the common man has never heard of Yellow Sapphire, and being poor they get what then can afford, i.e. yellow topaz. There is no harm in selling Topaz for Jupiter and that's the market reality, at least in 1974. Personally from every Indian (in India) who has shown me their "Guru Ratna" I have never once seen precious yellow sapphire, it's always topaz (at best) or citrine quartz (at worst). Well, there are a few exceptions, such as my Indian clients who are well off. Of course this is based on my limited experience... Sukriya!!! Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 What is your opinion about white pukhraj ? Is it the same variety of 'yellow saphire ?' What are its effects? Is it naturally available or is a produced from the originally yellow saphire by some chemical reaction ? My knowledge about gemology is practically zero and would like to learn gemology. Thanking you and with personal regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke I am the same person having another mail ID c_phadake Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: In Sanskrit, "Pushparaag" always referred to yellow sapphire. TheHindi word, "Pukh raaj" is also supposed to mean yellow sapphire, andthat is how it is known in the trade, such as in Jaipur or Kambaat.But somehow it has become confused with Yellow Topaz, which is whatmost people in India use for Jupiter.In 1974, after spending 7 years learning Sanskrit, my karma drove mefrom Vrindavan to Hyderabad. A "secret" Ruby mine had been uncovered,it was being developed with the Hyderabad family by my old Californiafriend whom I hadn't seen in 7 years (the ashram where I spent 7 yearsin Vrindavan had NO westerners but me. No one spoke English except theGuru. So I had to learn Bengali to converse in the ashram, and alsolearn Hindi to converse OUTside the ashram, as well as learn Sanskritso I could enter the heart of the mysteries. Anyway I'm telling thisjust to entertain you.At the mine, outside Hyderabad, AP, I was deputed to Bombay with 5 KGof rough rubies and told to enter the market using my Hindi and sellthe rough. That is another story. It was then that I started buyingHindi and English books on gems, and the few books there were allspoke about what is (since 1982) known as "Planetary Gemology". Onebook was named "Rasi-or-ratna", another book was Graha-gochar jyotish,and (in Eng., "The occult powers of gems" by Scherman, and there wasone author, late Raaj Roop Tank of Jaipur, that also explainedPlanetary Gemology basics in his book named "Indian Gemology"published in 1971.In 1974 I went to Jaipur to study under Sri Raaj Roop Tank and wasable to do so. He was very kind and I could say a lot about that, butkeeping to the point, I asked him why yellow corundum was called "Pushraja" when it is always called "Pushparaag" in all the Sanskrit texts.He told me that "Pukh raaj" was Hindi name, representing - what shouldbe yellow sapphire - but in fact almost 90% of common Indian only everheard of the name "Pukh Raaj" to mean the yellow gem, the Guru ratna,which in fact they are all using "yellow topaz" because yellowsapphire comes from outside India, and is very costly. And it hadbecome so ingrained that even in Jaipur market when ever they areselling yellow topaz (and they are always selling topaz) that it wascalled as Pukh Raaj and this is how the Indians called it.So I asked how does the common man know about yellow sapphire? He saidin fact the people don't know the difference... it's all topaz, andit's called "Pukh Raaj" and that's life in India. He also explained that gems needed to be flawless to work good, andyellow corundum in flawless quality could cost a small fortune if nota big one. So it was simply cost prohibitive in India (then) andyellow topaz was in fact being sold to the public as "Pukh Raaj.Common Indian has never heard the word "Pushaparaaj" unless they wouldhave studied gemology IN Sanskrit... which is hardly the case.What the Bombay, Jaipur, Kambaat markets all have in common is sellingyellow topaz to the public as the gem for Jupiter named Pukh Raaj. Andthis is the fact of he matter. Sri Tank ji told me that only the poorpeople believed in Planetary Gemology, and yellow sapphire is VERYexpensive, so golden topaz had become "Pukh Raaj" or Guru Ratna. Hesaid the rich Indian's who could easily afford the best of gems, theywere hardly interested. So it is with the masses of India that it isnormal to sell topaz as yellow sapphire named in Hindi as Pukh Raaj.So in common usage the truth has become nontruth. In fact Pukh Raaj isHindi, denoting the mega expensive yellow sapphire that no commonIndian has ever heard of, but in fact BEING yellow topaz. There is nolie because the common man has never heard of Yellow Sapphire, andbeing poor they get what then can afford, i.e. yellow topaz. There isno harm in selling Topaz for Jupiter and that's the market reality, atleast in 1974.Personally from every Indian (in India) who has shown me their "GuruRatna" I have never once seen precious yellow sapphire, it's alwaystopaz (at best) or citrine quartz (at worst). Well, there are a fewexceptions, such as my Indian clients who are well off.Of course this is based on my limited experience...Sukriya!!!Richard India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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