Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Dear Swee, Yes, hessonite is a garnet. And gomeda colors of malaya and spessartite are also garnets and called Gomeda. Vedic times they didn't know the 4 garnet groups as different except in color. Like a hessonite, if GREEN, is actually a Tsavorite - gem for Mercury. Both Tsavorite and Hessonite are identical species and family (grossularite) of garnet, and only differ in color. Another question is an Orange Sapphire also used for Rahu? I think not because Garuda Puranam mentions yellow sapphires as also being orange, and other texts attribute varna to yellow sapphire, with the golden orange called, "Kauranda" in Kshatriya Varna for Jupiter. Best rgds, Richard > SUBJECT: RE: Re: PICS: Mount Kailash and Kailash > Shila > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Richard, Namaste > > The word Pulaka also means an insect or vermin of a naga, of > kuvera (deformed body). The colours mentioned in there are: > honey, fire, plantain tree, colours of shell etc. This means > that gomeda should really be pulaka. As stated in the > classics: Rahu is chaya graha and therefore takes on the > energy of that planet wherever it is place. In Brohat > -------------------- > > A complete copy of this message has been attached for your > convenience. > > This message requires your approval for one of the following reasons: > * Your group is set to moderate all messages from this user, OR > * Your group is set to moderate messages from all users > > To approve or reject this messages using the web, please visit: > sacred-objects/pending?view=1&msg=684 > > To approve this message using email, reply to this message. You do > not > need to attach the original message, just reply and send. > > To reject this message using email, forward this message to > > sacred-objects-reject-5iR0ZRf0uLmA=OzuGQ8ZBpI > > NOTE: The pending message will expire after 14 days. 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In Brohat Parasara Hora > Sashtra, > Ch 55 On the effects of antardasa of Rahu (Ranja Publications), that > Rahu > bodes well in Cancer (Pink), Scorpio (reddish brown), Virgo > (variegated) or > Sagittarius (Tawny) or is associated with an exalted yogakaraka. Rahu > does > not bode well in the 2nd or 7th houses or its association with lords > of the > 2nd and 7th....and much distress if in the 8th or the 12th or if it > is > associated with malefics. > Hence, Rahu's gem is NOT hessonite, but should be pulaka - garnet > family. > > Love, > Swee > > > > sacred-objects > [sacred-objects] > On Behalf Of Richard Shaw-Brown II > Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:42 PM > sacred-objects > Re: PICS: Mount Kailash and Kailash Shila > > Dear Swee, > > I'm pretty sure Chap. 77 is red garnet, because two other English > translations (including > Mani Mala) also give the gem as garnet. And it matches the > description. It's > interesting to > see how many of the black transparent shalagrams are just water > tumbled > garnet crystals. > As you know real Shalagram Ammonite is always opaque. But lots of > people > worship > garnet crystals without knowing. Red garnet is available in Nepal, > but not > in quantities like > India and Africa. A lot of round Shalagrams I saw were transparent > black red > and they were > not genuine Shalagram Shila. BUT, they were genuine red garnet, and > that's > pretty cool > too. > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, "Swee Chan" <swee wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Richard, > > Namaste > > > > Would you have any information on the stone from Meleka (Narmada)? > The > > descriptions given in Garuda Purana Chapter 77 sounds similar. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > > sacred-objects > [sacred-objects] > > On Behalf Of Richard Shaw Brown > > Sunday, February 26, 2006 7:11 PM > > ; > > ; > planetary-gemology; > > Rudraksha Club; sacred-objects; > > vedic astrology; > vedic-sacred-objects > > PICS: Mount Kailash and Kailash Shila > > > > attached > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Richard, Namaste The crimson-yellow Sapphire is Padparadscha (commercial name) described as Karundaka in Garuda Purana could be akin to Kshatriya varna. Only the yellow colour is. What about the more reddish hue tinged with yellow, known as Kaasyaayaka (also padparadscha)? Considering the fact that Jupiter and Mars are friends. The corundum family came from Bala asura's skin - this includes the Blue hues in Indranila and Somaanaka. The darker shade of the Blue Sapphire (Mahanila - the special cornflour-cobalt blue) comes from Bala asura's eyes. It is said that if a person who sights these drove away Yama away, so it was buried. Do you think these are buried in the Blue Hills in Jagannath Puri as it does state exactly where they were buried. What's your take on Karketana? Love, Swee sacred-objects [sacred-objects] On Behalf Of Richard Shaw Brown Tuesday, February 28, 2006 6:38 PM sacred-objects swee posted to sacred-objects (Garnets) Dear Swee, Yes, hessonite is a garnet. And gomeda colors of malaya and spessartite are also garnets and called Gomeda. Vedic times they didn't know the 4 garnet groups as different except in color. Like a hessonite, if GREEN, is actually a Tsavorite - gem for Mercury. Both Tsavorite and Hessonite are identical species and family (grossularite) of garnet, and only differ in color. Another question is an Orange Sapphire also used for Rahu? I think not because Garuda Puranam mentions yellow sapphires as also being orange, and other texts attribute varna to yellow sapphire, with the golden orange called, "Kauranda" in Kshatriya Varna for Jupiter. Best rgds, Richard > SUBJECT: RE: Re: PICS: Mount Kailash and Kailash > Shila > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Richard, Namaste > > The word Pulaka also means an insect or vermin of a naga, of > kuvera (deformed body). The colours mentioned in there are: > honey, fire, plantain tree, colours of shell etc. This means > that gomeda should really be pulaka. As stated in the > classics: Rahu is chaya graha and therefore takes on the > energy of that planet wherever it is place. In Brohat > -------------------- > > A complete copy of this message has been attached for your > convenience. > > This message requires your approval for one of the following reasons: > * Your group is set to moderate all messages from this user, OR > * Your group is set to moderate messages from all users > > To approve or reject this messages using the web, please visit: > sacred-objects/pending?view=1&msg=684 > > To approve this message using email, reply to this message. You do > not > need to attach the original message, just reply and send. > > To reject this message using email, forward this message to > > sacred-objects-reject-5iR0ZRf0uLmA=OzuGQ8ZBpI > > NOTE: The pending message will expire after 14 days. If you do not > take action within that time, the pending message will be > automatically > rejected. does this to maintain a high quality of > service for our users. > > Thank you for choosing . > > Regards, > > Customer Care > > Your use of is subject to > > > > <sacred-objects> > CC: "SJCA" <> > Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:32:35 +0200 > "Swee Chan" <swee > RE: Re: PICS: Mount Kailash and Kailash > Shila > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Richard, > Namaste > > The word Pulaka also means an insect or vermin of a naga, of kuvera > (deformed body). > The colours mentioned in there are: honey, fire, plantain tree, > colours of > shell etc. This means that gomeda should really be pulaka. > As stated in the classics: Rahu is chaya graha and therefore takes on > the > energy of that planet wherever it is place. In Brohat Parasara Hora > Sashtra, > Ch 55 On the effects of antardasa of Rahu (Ranja Publications), that > Rahu > bodes well in Cancer (Pink), Scorpio (reddish brown), Virgo > (variegated) or > Sagittarius (Tawny) or is associated with an exalted yogakaraka. Rahu > does > not bode well in the 2nd or 7th houses or its association with lords > of the > 2nd and 7th....and much distress if in the 8th or the 12th or if it > is > associated with malefics. > Hence, Rahu's gem is NOT hessonite, but should be pulaka - garnet > family. > > Love, > Swee > > > > sacred-objects > [sacred-objects] > On Behalf Of Richard Shaw-Brown II > Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:42 PM > sacred-objects > Re: PICS: Mount Kailash and Kailash Shila > > Dear Swee, > > I'm pretty sure Chap. 77 is red garnet, because two other English > translations (including > Mani Mala) also give the gem as garnet. And it matches the > description. It's > interesting to > see how many of the black transparent shalagrams are just water > tumbled > garnet crystals. > As you know real Shalagram Ammonite is always opaque. But lots of > people > worship > garnet crystals without knowing. Red garnet is available in Nepal, > but not > in quantities like > India and Africa. A lot of round Shalagrams I saw were transparent > black red > and they were > not genuine Shalagram Shila. BUT, they were genuine red garnet, and > that's > pretty cool > too. > > Best rgds, > Richard > > sacred-objects, "Swee Chan" <swee wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Richard, > > Namaste > > > > Would you have any information on the stone from Meleka (Narmada)? > The > > descriptions given in Garuda Purana Chapter 77 sounds similar. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > > > sacred-objects > [sacred-objects] > > On Behalf Of Richard Shaw Brown > > Sunday, February 26, 2006 7:11 PM > > ; > > ; > planetary-gemology; > > Rudraksha Club; sacred-objects; > > vedic astrology; > vedic-sacred-objects > > PICS: Mount Kailash and Kailash Shila > > > > attached > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. 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