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Well, I also see that the aforementioned Mr.Ashley-Farrand offers a

companion CD, to his book. So, one may experience the subtleties of

mantra pronounciation, while reading up on the science.

 

Thanks, folks! I will take your advice. K.

 

 

, "ShiningLotus"

<shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> Dear Tomji

>

> Well you are certainly in a good mood today. Are we off our

medication again and looking for new ways to attract attention to

ourselves ?

>

> You know if you write uneducated confrontational comments like this

on this group site there is going to be a response you are not going

to like

>

> Am sure you will agree there really is no due respect when you

insult a dedicated individual in a public forum as you are attempting

to do here

>

> In polite society it is seen as really inappropriate and insulting

to verbally attack a dedicated individual that has done this immense

work of helping Anglos in the Western World understand a full range

of Vedic Mantra Science with exact pronounciation and meanings. The

Indian Communities also buy his books and attend his classes to learn

from him and he performs ceremonies in Hindu Temples

>

> Your opinions and comments are also rather disappointing specific

to your misunderstanding of Mantras and the Holy Work of NamaDeva

Acharya. Your lack of knowledge regarding the different ways some of

the same Mantras can be pronounced from Tibet to the South of India

is also apparant

>

> NamaDeva Acharya is a Hindu Priest and an authority on the Science

of Mantras. NamaDevas entire Life And Being is immersed in the Holy

Work of Mantra Science and Puja and Worship

>

> Seems quite evident you are a long way from the Knowledge of a

dedicated Pujari or Priest who constantly Teaches and Performs

ceremonies throughout the US and Canada each year

>

> Although I recognize your intent to be confrontational and damage

here you are really too obvious and with your lack of Knowledge

showing in a public forum your attempt to influence is really weak.

Dont know where all this Agni is comeing from however I hope you will

be able to resolve this

>

> In Truth it is really not possible for you to recomend or not

recommend his work because you dont have the Knowledge necessary to

make this judgement

>

> Without any due respect to you at this time because of your

behaviour I recommend that no one on this list consider your comments

as valid because they are directed toward an area you have no

expertise in

>

> Am sure you will agree that it is amazeing what some people will

say sometimes in public

>

> Simply Amazeing

>

> Wishing you the Best of Health and Happiness and Success in your

Life and hopeing Lord Siva Blesses you with some good sense and good

luck in resolveing your problem of being confrontational in a public

forum

>

> Am sure you will have another great message for us all to read soon

>

> Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum

>

> DharmaDev Arya

>

>

>

> Tom <tomgull@e...>

>

 

> Monday, November 11, 2002 12:18 PM

> Re: Bija Mantras?

>

>

> Generally speaking, the seed mantra will bring forth the

aspect of

> God that the deity is, in you the more you chant it. However,

> depending on where the bija is placed in an entire mantra,

changes

> it's meaning according to what I've read. In other words if a

> mantra repeats the same bija a second or third time, it means

> something different each time. Perhaps what I read refers to

the

> "secret" meaning of mantras.

>

> With due respect, I recommend against the Thomas Ashley Farrand

> materials. He does not give the proper pronunciation of the

vowels.

> Sanskrit, at least the accuracy and power of it comes from the

meter

> of the chanting and the improper sound can change the meaning.

> Having attempted to provide such mantras without proper

guidance is a

> great disservice. There are plenty of resources on the net

to

> learn most mantras for those interested, with the proper

transiliteration.

>

> For example, the common bija for Ganesha is Gam, which is

pronounced

> like "gum" as in "chewing gum". The perfected sound of it

will sound

> more like "gung", like striking a heavy bell the sound will

have a

> clear attack then resonate smoothly until gone.

>

> Another example is Ram. Ram or Raam? Ram (rum, like the

liquor) is

> a bija for the 3rd chakra. Raam as in Raama is a name for an

Avatar

> of Vishnu.

>

> Vaishnavas, who tend to be much more traditional than other

sects,

> don't teach that bijas should be pronounced by just anyone,

leaving it

> to qualified learned people who've received initiation dating

back

> through the ages, so that the meaning of the bija is clear.

For your

> average person, I would also recommend that you get initiation

from a

> qualified person or guru before experimenting with them.

>

> Just my thoughts,

> tom

>

> , "karisprowl"

<karisprowl>

> wrote:

> > I think I am understanding that the syllable of the bija

mantra is the

> > condensed essence of the Diety. Am I correct? If not, please

correct

> > me. Thanks! K

>

>

>

> -

>

>

>

> Terms of

Service.

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look in the mirror. what do you see? ahhhh, hum sooooo

 

No, that would be Hamsah. Sa becomes so only when it is conjoined with

another syllable. Therefore, instead of saham it is so'ham. If it pronounced

with ham first, then it is hamsah.

 

Guru Om

Markandeya Gurudas

 

 

 

 

 

 

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To be really specific I dont know anybody here who has expressed an interest in

your great intellect and specific knowledge regarding what your idea of the

Truth is. Reason for this comment is that I have not seen anyone ask you to

participate here as Defender of the Universe. I had always thought that was my

job.

 

>My God, you consider yourself the defender of the universe? That is a

frightening statement.

 

 

Yes Yes you have read some books and call yourself Gurudas however your angry

attitude preceedes you

 

>You don't know what I have done or what 'books' I have read, you know

nothing. As for angry, better re-read your post here in its entirety. I wish you

the best, you are in need of some kind help regarding your control issues, your

insulting attitude and disrespect, and megalomaniacal attitude.

 

Please don't bother, I will leave on my own. I have seen enough.

 

I only pray you are not one of the people who bless and mail the rudrakshas.

That angry dominating energy can only be hurtful to the new wearers of the

beads. Godspeed and I pray you find some peace, or at least some measure of

respect for others. Learning how to disagree respectfully is a precious gift. In

my first post that you responded with 'you are off your medication' and other

mean spirited things, I had only made a comment and said nothing mean spirited

to anyone.

 

I wonder if you can even see this about yourself my friend. You are probably

forming a hurtful statement to this post, but I will not be here to hear it and

you will be blocked from my e-mail.

 

You are a mean person when you disagree with others. I pray one day you learn

how to respect others in a forum of differing opinions. Your not setting a good

example of tolerance. And I can assure you that you do not know everything, not

by the longest of shots.

 

Guru Om

Markandeya

 

 

 

 

 

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