Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Question: When I read Sri Bhagavan's works, I find that investigation is said to be the one method for Realization. Sri Ramana Maharshi: Yes, that is vichara. Q: How is that done? M: The questioner must admit the existence of his or her self. "I AM" is the Realization. To pursue the clue till Realization is vichara. Vichara and Realization are the same. Q: It is elusive. What shall I meditate upon? M: Meditation requires an object to meditate upon, whereas there is only the subject without the object in vichara. Meditation differs from vichara in this way. Q: Is not dhyana one of the efficient processes for Realization? M: Dhyana is concentration on an object. It fulfils the purpose of keeping away diverse thoughts and fixing the mind on a single thought, which must also disappear before Realization. But Realization is nothing new to be acquired. It is already there, but obstructed by a screen of thoughts. All our attempts are directed for lifting this screen, and then Realization is revealed. If a true seeker is advised to meditate, many may go away satisfied with the advice. But some one among them may turn round, and ask, "Who am I to meditate on an object?" Such a one must be told to find the Self. That is the finality. That is vichara. Q: Will vichara alone do in the absence of meditation? Sri Ramana Maharshi: Vichara is the process and the goal also. "I AM" is the goal and the final Reality. To hold to it with effort is vichara. When spontaneous and natural it is Realization. from Talks Love baba om sri ramanaya namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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