Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Greetings: It is a mistake to assume the para in the products shown online are the same as "unbound mercury". Para used for ritual objects are undergo a similar initial series of "samskaras" or "impressions" that ayurvedic medicines which utilize mercury. An important part of this process is to combine the mercury with sulfur (in excess) to reduce its reactivity. This process is repeated many times. The more samskaras that are applied to more etheric the mercury will become. The para sold online at "ratna" is one that probably has not undergone a large numbers of samskaras, but just the minimum to render it non-toxic. Para which has undergone 8 or more samskaras is often much more expensive, a 25 gr. bead costing 125-300 dollars. Energetically all para products are quite "hot" and tend to aggravate pitta in the body. Users should not only be aware of this but also privvy to what the symptoms are. It often takes days or weeks to adjust to para which is worn. Good para can awaken kundalini or balance it in others. It will also allow experienced meditators to go easily into deep meditation. Some people will leave their body from the high energy, other may feel as if drunk. Here is the response from the website: "Namaste . Thanks for your enquiry . Para is non toxic when made this way and all Samskaras as listed in Parad Samhita are performed on this . Alchemist who makes this is in MP state of India by name Purshottum Das .. We assure you of its purity and non toxicity and you could get this laboratory tested in your country . Recently we have got excellent parad malas of tiny beads made . These are light weight and wearable and affordable and are 99% pure parad and cost $50 only . Also we have got parad rings made which are very affordable and cost $7.5 . We have 3 designs in parad mala all costing same . Also we have developed a new style parad cup for drinking milk with wooden base and cost is $125 . We would be soon putting up scanned pictures of these on website" Sincerely, Steve Feite (Vajranatha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Stevenji Namaskar and Thank You for your message My Friend Yes will agree regarding assumptions however I am remembering a message I sent in response to your questions recently.......where I said our Parad is most likely not as powerful as the Parad you are useing from Petri Murien........... that is most likely made from more private alchemical processes due to exhorbitant prices charged for this type of Parad. Few I know can afford a 25 gram bead 150 to 300 per bead Alan Scherr is one of our club members and there are quite a few discussions listed in our archives on the Parad and purity standards Can only tell you what we have Accomplished at Rudra Centre......... we continually strive to provide an acceptable high quality product for the Practitioner at a half way reasonable price so the majority of people can experience Parad. It is only my opinion however 125 to 300 per bead is much to costly for the majority of people who are useing Parad so this has the effect of priceing many people out of the experience Our Parad is rated at 99% pure and 16 Samsakaras are performed on the Parad. Since I dont study Parad am wondering if 99% pure and 16 Samsakaras are satisfactory for the average person to work with at the India prices we have established on Rudra Centre Website. We are fortunate to have Home Office in India because this allows us to work with India prices for Traditional Items made in India by Traditional Indian Craftsmen.. In the future we look forward to haveing the Parad Samhita available on our Book Section. Our Parad Lingas are 99% pure and we are constantly upgradeing our products We are haveing new lightweight necklaces and Parad Rings made that do not leave any color on the skin and are committed to dealing only with Parad Mercury Items that are 99% pure.............at a reasonable price Thanking again for your message and looking forward to comments on the 16 Samskara method specific to purity standards Best wishes to you and Family for Health Happiness and Success My Friend Thanks and Take Care DahrmaDev Steven Feite <safeite <> Friday, May 02, 2003 6:18 AM Para beads, etc. Greetings: It is a mistake to assume the para in the products shown online are the same as "unbound mercury". Para used for ritual objects are undergo a similar initial series of "samskaras" or "impressions" that ayurvedic medicines which utilize mercury. An important part of this process is to combine the mercury with sulfur (in excess) to reduce its reactivity. This process is repeated many times. The more samskaras that are applied to more etheric the mercury will become. The para sold online at "ratna" is one that probably has not undergone a large numbers of samskaras, but just the minimum to render it non-toxic. Para which has undergone 8 or more samskaras is often much more expensive, a 25 gr. bead costing 125-300 dollars. Energetically all para products are quite "hot" and tend to aggravate pitta in the body. Users should not only be aware of this but also privvy to what the symptoms are. It often takes days or weeks to adjust to para which is worn. Good para can awaken kundalini or balance it in others. It will also allow experienced meditators to go easily into deep meditation. Some people will leave their body from the high energy, other may feel as if drunk. Here is the response from the website: "Namaste . Thanks for your enquiry . Para is non toxic when made this way and all Samskaras as listed in Parad Samhita are performed on this . Alchemist who makes this is in MP state of India by name Purshottum Das .. We assure you of its purity and non toxicity and you could get this laboratory tested in your country . Recently we have got excellent parad malas of tiny beads made . These are light weight and wearable and affordable and are 99% pure parad and cost $50 only . Also we have got parad rings made which are very affordable and cost $7.5 . We have 3 designs in parad mala all costing same . Also we have developed a new style parad cup for drinking milk with wooden base and cost is $125 . We would be soon putting up scanned pictures of these on website" Sincerely, Steve Feite (Vajranatha) Sponsor To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 It has been my observation that discussing parad conjures up very strong emotions and opinions from people..both for and against. Perhaps that is part of its nature :-) I, for one am still questioning and learning and wondering about it. I welcome and appreciate Any reasonable discussion about it .. In regards to the validity of such discussions, to me talking about parad is just as valid as talking about drinking milk and eating onions :-)... All is related to the lifestyle and wisdom that is around rudrakshas. Thanks. Kanti In a message dated 5/2/2003 8:30:34 PM Central Daylight Time, shininglotus writes: > Dear Kirkji > > Is known that the value of any discussion has to do with exchangeing ideas > and transferring information so that more can be learned > > Many times the discussions take different turns however most all the time > something more is learned > > The learning validates the most important value of discussion > > Thanks and Take Care > > DharmaDev > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Dharmadev: > Can only tell you what we have Accomplished at Rudra Centre......... we continually strive to provide an acceptable high quality product for the Practitioner at a half way reasonable price so the majority of people can experience Parad. It is only my opinion however 125 to 300 per bead is much to costly for the majority of people who are useing Parad so this has the effect of priceing many people out of the experience > I think the prices some are charging are quite frankly "price gouging". They are way overpriced. > Our Parad is rated at 99% pure and 16 Samsakaras are performed on the Parad. Since I dont study Parad am wondering if 99% pure and 16 Samsakaras are satisfactory for the average person to work with at the India prices we have established on Rudra Centre Website. We are fortunate to have Home Office in India because this allows us to work with India prices for Traditional Items made in India by Traditional Indian Craftsmen.. Wow that is incredible. I will definitely purchase some from the website now. You are the first person the mention the actual number of samskaras. 16 is exceptionally high. The "philosophers stone" is 18 samskaras. If this is true, this is one of the best buys around! It should contribute greatly to the practitioners who are able to use it wisely. What is typically available by Murien is 10 samskaras. There is another yogi who produces 14 samskara para. So 16 is exceptionally purified. > > In the future we look forward to haveing the Parad Samhita available on our Book Section. I will be very interested to see this! Thank you for sharing what you did. I will spread the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 think the important word here is ........ TALKING ................ TALKING........ TALKING :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Maybe some can tell us what value this has? - S.A. Feite Friday, May 02, 2003 6:08 PM Re: Para beads, etc. Dear Dharmadev: > Can only tell you what we have Accomplished at Rudra Centre......... we continually strive to provide an acceptable high quality product for the Practitioner at a half way reasonable price so the majority of people can experience Parad. It is only my opinion however 125 to 300 per bead is much to costly for the majority of people who are useing Parad so this has the effect of priceing many people out of the experience > I think the prices some are charging are quite frankly "price gouging". They are way overpriced. > Our Parad is rated at 99% pure and 16 Samsakaras are performed on the Parad. Since I dont study Parad am wondering if 99% pure and 16 Samsakaras are satisfactory for the average person to work with at the India prices we have established on Rudra Centre Website. We are fortunate to have Home Office in India because this allows us to work with India prices for Traditional Items made in India by Traditional Indian Craftsmen.. Wow that is incredible. I will definitely purchase some from the website now. You are the first person the mention the actual number of samskaras. 16 is exceptionally high. The "philosophers stone" is 18 samskaras. If this is true, this is one of the best buys around! It should contribute greatly to the practitioners who are able to use it wisely. What is typically available by Murien is 10 samskaras. There is another yogi who produces 14 samskara para. So 16 is exceptionally purified. > > In the future we look forward to haveing the Parad Samhita available on our Book Section. I will be very interested to see this! Thank you for sharing what you did. I will spread the word. Sponsor To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Steve: This is Ryan. I spoke with you on the phone the other day. Would you be able to share your knowledge about using parad beads wisely and what they useful for. I'm an Ayurvedic practitioner, mainly nutrition and basic education. I've never heard of parad usage in my studies. Please share your knowledge. If you have time and are willing, my email is ascendwv. Best Wishes, Ryan- , "S.A. Feite" <safeite@p...> wrote: > Dear Dharmadev: > > > > Can only tell you what we have Accomplished at Rudra Centre......... we continually > strive to provide an acceptable high quality product for the Practitioner at a half way > reasonable price so the majority of people can experience Parad. It is only my opinion > however 125 to 300 per bead is much to costly for the majority of people who are > useing Parad so this has the effect of priceing many people out of the experience > > > > I think the prices some are charging are quite frankly "price gouging". They are way > overpriced. > > > Our Parad is rated at 99% pure and 16 Samsakaras are performed on the Parad. > Since I dont study Parad am wondering if 99% pure and 16 Samsakaras are > satisfactory for the average person to work with at the India prices we have > established on Rudra Centre Website. We are fortunate to have Home Office in India > because this allows us to work with India prices for Traditional Items made in India by > Traditional Indian Craftsmen.. > > Wow that is incredible. I will definitely purchase some from the website now. You are > the first person the mention the actual number of samskaras. 16 is exceptionally > high. The "philosophers stone" is 18 samskaras. If this is true, this is one of the best > buys around! It should contribute greatly to the practitioners who are able to use it > wisely. What is typically available by Murien is 10 samskaras. There is another yogi > who produces 14 samskara para. So 16 is exceptionally purified. > > > > > In the future we look forward to haveing the Parad Samhita available on our Book > Section. > > I will be very interested to see this! > > Thank you for sharing what you did. I will spread the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 , "Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote: > Maybe some can tell us what value this has? What value WHAT has? Could you be more specific? Vajranatha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Kirkji Is known that the value of any discussion has to do with exchangeing ideas and transferring information so that more can be learned Many times the discussions take different turns however most all the time something more is learned The learning validates the most important value of discussion Thanks and Take Care DharmaDev Kirk <kirk_bernhardt <> Friday, May 02, 2003 4:59 PM Re: Para beads, etc. Maybe some can tell us what value this has? - S.A. Feite Friday, May 02, 2003 6:08 PM Re: Para beads, etc. Dear Dharmadev: > Can only tell you what we have Accomplished at Rudra Centre......... we continually strive to provide an acceptable high quality product for the Practitioner at a half way reasonable price so the majority of people can experience Parad. It is only my opinion however 125 to 300 per bead is much to costly for the majority of people who are useing Parad so this has the effect of priceing many people out of the experience > I think the prices some are charging are quite frankly "price gouging". They are way overpriced. > Our Parad is rated at 99% pure and 16 Samsakaras are performed on the Parad. Since I dont study Parad am wondering if 99% pure and 16 Samsakaras are satisfactory for the average person to work with at the India prices we have established on Rudra Centre Website. We are fortunate to have Home Office in India because this allows us to work with India prices for Traditional Items made in India by Traditional Indian Craftsmen.. Wow that is incredible. I will definitely purchase some from the website now. You are the first person the mention the actual number of samskaras. 16 is exceptionally high. The "philosophers stone" is 18 samskaras. If this is true, this is one of the best buys around! It should contribute greatly to the practitioners who are able to use it wisely. What is typically available by Murien is 10 samskaras. There is another yogi who produces 14 samskara para. So 16 is exceptionally purified. > > In the future we look forward to haveing the Parad Samhita available on our Book Section. I will be very interested to see this! Thank you for sharing what you did. I will spread the word. Sponsor To send an email to: To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Vajranathaji Namaskar My Friend and thank you for putting all this in perspective for us Didnt know what the other alchemist Parad suppliers were doing in the rest of the world specific to purity of process for the Parad Seems the Tradional Indian Craftsmen that Miss Neeta has found are performing a great service for all the Mankind and Womankind Thanks for explaining this to me Dhanyavaad Cha Pranams Mitra DharmaDev Arya S.A. Feite <safeite <> Friday, May 02, 2003 4:09 PM Re: Para beads, etc. Dear Dharmadev: > Can only tell you what we have Accomplished at Rudra Centre......... we continually strive to provide an acceptable high quality product for the Practitioner at a half way reasonable price so the majority of people can experience Parad. It is only my opinion however 125 to 300 per bead is much to costly for the majority of people who are useing Parad so this has the effect of priceing many people out of the experience > I think the prices some are charging are quite frankly "price gouging". They are way overpriced. > Our Parad is rated at 99% pure and 16 Samsakaras are performed on the Parad. Since I dont study Parad am wondering if 99% pure and 16 Samsakaras are satisfactory for the average person to work with at the India prices we have established on Rudra Centre Website. We are fortunate to have Home Office in India because this allows us to work with India prices for Traditional Items made in India by Traditional Indian Craftsmen.. Wow that is incredible. I will definitely purchase some from the website now. You are the first person the mention the actual number of samskaras. 16 is exceptionally high. The "philosophers stone" is 18 samskaras. If this is true, this is one of the best buys around! It should contribute greatly to the practitioners who are able to use it wisely. What is typically available by Murien is 10 samskaras. There is another yogi who produces 14 samskara para. So 16 is exceptionally purified. > > In the future we look forward to haveing the Parad Samhita available on our Book Section. I will be very interested to see this! Thank you for sharing what you did. I will spread the word. Sponsor To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Drinking milk and eating mercury are equally valid!! That's insane:-) I know a couple of cows that would be deeply offended by the comparison. , thunderheals@a... wrote: > It has been my observation that discussing parad conjures up very strong > emotions and opinions from people..both for and against. > > Perhaps that is part of its nature :-) > > I, for one am still questioning and learning and wondering about it. > I welcome and appreciate Any reasonable discussion about it .. > > In regards to the validity of such discussions, to me talking about parad is > just as valid as talking about drinking milk and eating onions :- )... > > All is related to the lifestyle and wisdom that is around rudrakshas. > > Thanks. > Kanti > > In a message dated 5/2/2003 8:30:34 PM Central Daylight Time, > shininglotus@c... writes: > > > Dear Kirkji > > > > Is known that the value of any discussion has to do with exchangeing ideas > > and transferring information so that more can be learned > > > > Many times the discussions take different turns however most all the time > > something more is learned > > > > The learning validates the most important value of discussion > > > > Thanks and Take Care > > > > DharmaDev > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Surajji LOL U R 2 Funny My Friend You have me laughing here : ) Miss Kanti said drinking milk and eating onions Am sure she will not be eating Mercury : ) Thanks and Take Care My Friend DharmaDev , "surajraghavan2002" <suraj_raghavan@h...> wrote: > Drinking milk and eating mercury are equally valid!! That's insane:-) > I know a couple of cows that would be deeply offended by the > comparison. > > , thunderheals@a... > wrote: > > It has been my observation that discussing parad conjures up very > strong > > emotions and opinions from people..both for and against. > > > > Perhaps that is part of its nature :-) > > > > I, for one am still questioning and learning and wondering about it. > > I welcome and appreciate Any reasonable discussion about it .. > > > > In regards to the validity of such discussions, to me talking about > parad is > > just as valid as talking about drinking milk and eating onions :- > )... > > > > All is related to the lifestyle and wisdom that is around > rudrakshas. > > > > Thanks. > > Kanti > > > > In a message dated 5/2/2003 8:30:34 PM Central Daylight Time, > > shininglotus@c... writes: > > > > > Dear Kirkji > > > > > > Is known that the value of any discussion has to do with > exchangeing ideas > > > and transferring information so that more can be learned > > > > > > Many times the discussions take different turns however most all > the time > > > something more is learned > > > > > > The learning validates the most important value of discussion > > > > > > Thanks and Take Care > > > > > > DharmaDev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Miss This is really important that you are finding and documenting all the information on the Parad We have quite a bit now really and now you have found it is to be used maybe only for a month out of the year This might be a neat project to continue since we are already so far along with this Thanks and Take Care DharmaDev thunderheals <thunderheals <> Friday, May 02, 2003 8:20 PM Re: Para beads, etc. think the important word here is ........ TALKING ................ TALKING........ TALKING :-) To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 In using Parad therapeutically especially, documents I found state that it is recommended to be used during cold weather months due to its fiery nature. I developed a tremendous rash after putting a parad mala over a sun burn. Was stupid of me, but it never occured to me that would happen. Of course , now it makes sense. How much to wear and how long to wear it is truly an individual matter. Have found that alternative healing techniques such as muscle testing, kineseology, or pendulum is helpful for this diagnosis. There is also some extraordinary documentation on the net regarding the use of parad in Spiritual practices. It is connected to Lord Shiva's form of Bhairava and is said to free practitioner from the "addiction and attachment to time". Besides the website that Alanji shared with us some time ago... There is also: <A HREF="http://www.levity.com/alchemy/feite.html">http://www.levity.com/alchemy/fe\ ite.html</A> This is a great article entitled: "Tantric Alchemy and the Purification of Mercury" <A HREF="http://www.shrifreedom.com/alchemy.html">http://www.shrifreedom.com/alchem\ y.html</A> Shows and describes the purification process in depth There is a book called: "In Search of the Medicine Buddha" by David Crow that describes in depth the use of parad in Tibetan medicine as well as Aryurvedic uses. Last month amazon.com had an incredible sale on it. All of these really focus more on using parad internally, but its rather easy to deduce the ramifications of wearing it from these. It most definately is a substance to be respected and approached with temperance. The short amount of time I have spent with it, I have experienced a wonderful and strong presence of Lord Shiva. My concern lies in being assured that substances that are being sold as purified, indeed are that and they have gone through all the samskaras that they have claimed to be. There seems to be no standard to test this. Have also found that the parad works well in malas with rudraksha such as 3 and 5 mukhi and gems such as coral and amethyst. In the West, amethyst is prized for its qualities of transmutation. Feel we shall always have a debate on this, but this is the essence of what I have researched. For now I am content to have it on my puja and lean on the blessings of Goddess Durga 9 mukhi for daily mala use :-) Om Namah Shivaya Kanti In a message dated 5/2/2003 10:41:31 PM Central Daylight Time, shininglotus writes: > Dear Miss > > This is really important that you are finding and documenting all the > information on the Parad > > We have quite a bit now really and now you have found it is to be used > maybe only for a month out of the year > > This might be a neat project to continue since we are already so far along > with this > > Thanks and Take Care > > DharmaDev > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Just realized after I posted the last message that the article I recommended: "Tantric Alchemy and the Purification of Mercury" was written by none other than Vajranathaji :-) It is a brilliant piece of work, Mitra. :-) We are very happy to have you here with us and look forward to having you share more insights with us in the future. :-) Om Namah Shivaya Kanti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 I got the parad from Rudra Ctr. But would wait until the new shipment comes in that has been treated through the 16 samskaras and order that. Feel that everyone's experiences are subjective and individual with both parad and rudraksha. Have a feeling that I have a past life connection with parad and already have a very strong devotion and sense of Lord Shiva that has spanned decades so my experience may be different than other peoples' 14 mukhi is very much connected with Him as well as 1 mukhi In a message dated 5/3/2003 12:17:05 PM Central Daylight Time, barbjs writes: > Dear Thunderhead, > Your letter is amazing. Please tell me where you got your para bead and > what it is like so that I can experience wonderful and strong presence of > Lord Shiva also. I have just ordered a 14 mukhi Rudraksah but have lots of > others too, mostly 4, 5, 6 and I believe somewhere a 7. I have just > contacted the grower about Rudraksah plants to grow in the garden. Sure > wish Lord Shiva would bless me with more money to afford all of this. > Barbara. Most wonderful letter you wrote. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 In western astrology was told yesterday that Mercury is in retrograde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Thunder Head is a very cool name..really :-) Chose Thunderheals cause all the other Thunder names I wanted were taken :-) Actually, it refers to the Native American Thunder Society of Plains tribes..elements of which are very similar to Shaivite Yoga ..some scholars have traced tradition back to Lord Shiva and there were reports that say that Mahavatar Babaji had several manifestations amongst Plains Tribes. In a message dated 5/3/2003 1:39:37 PM Central Daylight Time, barbjs writes: > Hi, I realized my mistake after I had made it also. It really is funny. > Sorry, I didn't mean any disrespect. Barbara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Dear Thunderhead, Your letter is amazing. Please tell me where you got your para bead and what it is like so that I can experience wonderful and strong presence of Lord Shiva also. I have just ordered a 14 mukhi Rudraksah but have lots of others too, mostly 4, 5, 6 and I believe somewhere a 7. I have just contacted the grower about Rudraksah plants to grow in the garden. Sure wish Lord Shiva would bless me with more money to afford all of this. Barbara. Most wonderful letter you wrote. Thanks. - thunderheals Saturday, May 03, 2003 8:35 AM Re: Para beads, etc. In using Parad therapeutically especially, documents I found state that it is recommended to be used during cold weather months due to its fiery nature. I developed a tremendous rash after putting a parad mala over a sun burn. Was stupid of me, but it never occured to me that would happen. Of course , now it makes sense. How much to wear and how long to wear it is truly an individual matter. Have found that alternative healing techniques such as muscle testing, kineseology, or pendulum is helpful for this diagnosis. There is also some extraordinary documentation on the net regarding the use of parad in Spiritual practices. It is connected to Lord Shiva's form of Bhairava and is said to free practitioner from the "addiction and attachment to time". Besides the website that Alanji shared with us some time ago... There is also: <A HREF="http://www.levity.com/alchemy/feite.html">http://www.levity.com/alchemy/fe\ ite.html</A> This is a great article entitled: "Tantric Alchemy and the Purification of Mercury" <A HREF="http://www.shrifreedom.com/alchemy.html">http://www.shrifreedom.com/alchem\ y.html</A> Shows and describes the purification process in depth There is a book called: "In Search of the Medicine Buddha" by David Crow that describes in depth the use of parad in Tibetan medicine as well as Aryurvedic uses. Last month amazon.com had an incredible sale on it. All of these really focus more on using parad internally, but its rather easy to deduce the ramifications of wearing it from these. It most definately is a substance to be respected and approached with temperance. The short amount of time I have spent with it, I have experienced a wonderful and strong presence of Lord Shiva. My concern lies in being assured that substances that are being sold as purified, indeed are that and they have gone through all the samskaras that they have claimed to be. There seems to be no standard to test this. Have also found that the parad works well in malas with rudraksha such as 3 and 5 mukhi and gems such as coral and amethyst. In the West, amethyst is prized for its qualities of transmutation. Feel we shall always have a debate on this, but this is the essence of what I have researched. For now I am content to have it on my puja and lean on the blessings of Goddess Durga 9 mukhi for daily mala use :-) Om Namah Shivaya Kanti In a message dated 5/2/2003 10:41:31 PM Central Daylight Time, shininglotus writes: > Dear Miss > > This is really important that you are finding and documenting all the > information on the Parad > > We have quite a bit now really and now you have found it is to be used > maybe only for a month out of the year > > This might be a neat project to continue since we are already so far along > with this > > Thanks and Take Care > > DharmaDev > Sponsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Dear Barbaraji LOL am sure planets are getting close to perfect alignment now Thank you for referring to Miss Kanti as........the Great.... ThunderHead.....this is totally funny : ) Is like eating parad with your milk and onions LOL This planetary alignment has had the funniest effict on Planet Mercury and communications with others that we have seen in a couple of years. Hope we can all maintain composure till planetary alignment is over with : ) Looking forward to many Happy times after the alignment has completed its work of positive change Thanks and Take Care My Friends DharmaDev Barbara J. Spencer <barbjs <> Saturday, May 03, 2003 10:16 AM Re: Para beads, etc. Dear Thunderhead, Your letter is amazing. Please tell me where you got your para bead and what it is like so that I can experience wonderful and strong presence of Lord Shiva also. I have just ordered a 14 mukhi Rudraksah but have lots of others too, mostly 4, 5, 6 and I believe somewhere a 7. I have just contacted the grower about Rudraksah plants to grow in the garden. Sure wish Lord Shiva would bless me with more money to afford all of this. Barbara. Most wonderful letter you wrote. Thanks. - thunderheals Saturday, May 03, 2003 8:35 AM Re: Para beads, etc. In using Parad therapeutically especially, documents I found state that it is recommended to be used during cold weather months due to its fiery nature. I developed a tremendous rash after putting a parad mala over a sun burn. Was stupid of me, but it never occured to me that would happen. Of course , now it makes sense. How much to wear and how long to wear it is truly an individual matter. Have found that alternative healing techniques such as muscle testing, kineseology, or pendulum is helpful for this diagnosis. There is also some extraordinary documentation on the net regarding the use of parad in Spiritual practices. It is connected to Lord Shiva's form of Bhairava and is said to free practitioner from the "addiction and attachment to time". Besides the website that Alanji shared with us some time ago... There is also: <A HREF="http://www.levity.com/alchemy/feite.html">http://www.levity.com/alchemy/fe\ ite.html</A> This is a great article entitled: "Tantric Alchemy and the Purification of Mercury" <A HREF="http://www.shrifreedom.com/alchemy.html">http://www.shrifreedom.com/alchem\ y.html</A> Shows and describes the purification process in depth There is a book called: "In Search of the Medicine Buddha" by David Crow that describes in depth the use of parad in Tibetan medicine as well as Aryurvedic uses. Last month amazon.com had an incredible sale on it. All of these really focus more on using parad internally, but its rather easy to deduce the ramifications of wearing it from these. It most definately is a substance to be respected and approached with temperance. The short amount of time I have spent with it, I have experienced a wonderful and strong presence of Lord Shiva. My concern lies in being assured that substances that are being sold as purified, indeed are that and they have gone through all the samskaras that they have claimed to be. There seems to be no standard to test this. Have also found that the parad works well in malas with rudraksha such as 3 and 5 mukhi and gems such as coral and amethyst. In the West, amethyst is prized for its qualities of transmutation. Feel we shall always have a debate on this, but this is the essence of what I have researched. For now I am content to have it on my puja and lean on the blessings of Goddess Durga 9 mukhi for daily mala use :-) Om Namah Shivaya Kanti In a message dated 5/2/2003 10:41:31 PM Central Daylight Time, shininglotus writes: > Dear Miss > > This is really important that you are finding and documenting all the > information on the Parad > > We have quite a bit now really and now you have found it is to be used > maybe only for a month out of the year > > This might be a neat project to continue since we are already so far along > with this > > Thanks and Take Care > > DharmaDev > Sponsor To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Hi, I realized my mistake after I had made it also. It really is funny. Sorry, I didn't mean any disrespect. Barbara - ShiningLotus Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:28 AM Re: Para beads, etc. Dear Barbaraji LOL am sure planets are getting close to perfect alignment now Thank you for referring to Miss Kanti as........the Great.... ThunderHead.....this is totally funny : ) Is like eating parad with your milk and onions LOL This planetary alignment has had the funniest effict on Planet Mercury and communications with others that we have seen in a couple of years. Hope we can all maintain composure till planetary alignment is over with : ) Looking forward to many Happy times after the alignment has completed its work of positive change Thanks and Take Care My Friends DharmaDev Barbara J. Spencer <barbjs <> Saturday, May 03, 2003 10:16 AM Re: Para beads, etc. Dear Thunderhead, Your letter is amazing. Please tell me where you got your para bead and what it is like so that I can experience wonderful and strong presence of Lord Shiva also. I have just ordered a 14 mukhi Rudraksah but have lots of others too, mostly 4, 5, 6 and I believe somewhere a 7. I have just contacted the grower about Rudraksah plants to grow in the garden. Sure wish Lord Shiva would bless me with more money to afford all of this. Barbara. Most wonderful letter you wrote. Thanks. - thunderheals Saturday, May 03, 2003 8:35 AM Re: Para beads, etc. In using Parad therapeutically especially, documents I found state that it is recommended to be used during cold weather months due to its fiery nature. I developed a tremendous rash after putting a parad mala over a sun burn. Was stupid of me, but it never occured to me that would happen. Of course , now it makes sense. How much to wear and how long to wear it is truly an individual matter. Have found that alternative healing techniques such as muscle testing, kineseology, or pendulum is helpful for this diagnosis. There is also some extraordinary documentation on the net regarding the use of parad in Spiritual practices. It is connected to Lord Shiva's form of Bhairava and is said to free practitioner from the "addiction and attachment to time". Besides the website that Alanji shared with us some time ago... There is also: <A HREF="http://www.levity.com/alchemy/feite.html">http://www.levity.com/alchemy/fe\ ite.html</A> This is a great article entitled: "Tantric Alchemy and the Purification of Mercury" <A HREF="http://www.shrifreedom.com/alchemy.html">http://www.shrifreedom.com/alchem\ y.html</A> Shows and describes the purification process in depth There is a book called: "In Search of the Medicine Buddha" by David Crow that describes in depth the use of parad in Tibetan medicine as well as Aryurvedic uses. Last month amazon.com had an incredible sale on it. All of these really focus more on using parad internally, but its rather easy to deduce the ramifications of wearing it from these. It most definately is a substance to be respected and approached with temperance. The short amount of time I have spent with it, I have experienced a wonderful and strong presence of Lord Shiva. My concern lies in being assured that substances that are being sold as purified, indeed are that and they have gone through all the samskaras that they have claimed to be. There seems to be no standard to test this. Have also found that the parad works well in malas with rudraksha such as 3 and 5 mukhi and gems such as coral and amethyst. In the West, amethyst is prized for its qualities of transmutation. Feel we shall always have a debate on this, but this is the essence of what I have researched. For now I am content to have it on my puja and lean on the blessings of Goddess Durga 9 mukhi for daily mala use :-) Om Namah Shivaya Kanti In a message dated 5/2/2003 10:41:31 PM Central Daylight Time, shininglotus writes: > Dear Miss > > This is really important that you are finding and documenting all the > information on the Parad > > We have quite a bit now really and now you have found it is to be used > maybe only for a month out of the year > > This might be a neat project to continue since we are already so far along > with this > > Thanks and Take Care > > DharmaDev > Sponsor Sponsor To send an email to: Sponsor To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Mercury is retrograde, period. It matters not which system, but the general alignment is so profound, it has much less impact than usual. namaste, alan >thunderheals > > >Re: Para beads, etc. >Sat, 3 May 2003 14:38:47 EDT > >In western astrology was told yesterday that Mercury is in retrograde > > > > _______________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 In the midwest.really intense looking large white storm clouds that preceed black clouds are called thunderheads..so I still think its a neat name :-) In a message dated 5/3/2003 7:47:04 PM Central Daylight Time, barbjs writes: > Hi, I guess that is where I got it, as I went to a couple of Sweat Lodges. > Don't feel bad; when I told my daughter my mistake, she called me Beadhead. > Barbara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Yesterday when I said, "what's the point" I had meant what does paraad have to do with spirituality. I didn't mean what's the point of talking about it. I'm sorry to people if I'm sounding tired or lazy, that's how I feel now that I'm back cooking from 5 in the mornings. When I get home I'm flat out blasted and too tired to grunt. So forgive me for not makiing my points very clear. - thunderheals Saturday, May 03, 2003 1:51 PM Re: Para beads, etc. Thunder Head is a very cool name..really :-) Chose Thunderheals cause all the other Thunder names I wanted were taken :-) Actually, it refers to the Native American Thunder Society of Plains tribes..elements of which are very similar to Shaivite Yoga ..some scholars have traced tradition back to Lord Shiva and there were reports that say that Mahavatar Babaji had several manifestations amongst Plains Tribes. In a message dated 5/3/2003 1:39:37 PM Central Daylight Time, barbjs writes: > Hi, I realized my mistake after I had made it also. It really is funny. > Sorry, I didn't mean any disrespect. Barbara > Sponsor To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Hi, I guess that is where I got it, as I went to a couple of Sweat Lodges. Don't feel bad; when I told my daughter my mistake, she called me Beadhead. Barbara - thunderheals Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:51 AM Re: Para beads, etc. Thunder Head is a very cool name..really :-) Chose Thunderheals cause all the other Thunder names I wanted were taken :-) Actually, it refers to the Native American Thunder Society of Plains tribes..elements of which are very similar to Shaivite Yoga ..some scholars have traced tradition back to Lord Shiva and there were reports that say that Mahavatar Babaji had several manifestations amongst Plains Tribes. In a message dated 5/3/2003 1:39:37 PM Central Daylight Time, barbjs writes: > Hi, I realized my mistake after I had made it also. It really is funny. > Sorry, I didn't mean any disrespect. Barbara > Sponsor To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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