Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 Dear Elizabeth: A person's own intuition is usually the best judge as to what is happening to them as the rudraksha lead individuals into a reality of self empowerment and living a life of balance, harmony and fearlessness. It sounds, indeed, that this is a period of cleansing and releasing. As mentioned to Simji, the rudrakshas serve to excelerate the spiritual journey and the Path to Enlightenment and Self Realization. Your description sounds quite similar to the phenomena of the "Healing Crisis" that can occur in homeopathic medicine in that symptoms and maladies can get worse before they get better. Oftentimes this heightening of the malady is because it is working its way out of the system. The Rudrakshas represent Pure Spiritual Light. They will disperse and release anything that is less than light from every level of our being and many times very, very rapidly. I quite honestly cannot tell you how long this will last, but I do know it will go away. What I can do is offer some suggestions that will perhaps help you through this period: You may want to look into the purchase of a sphatik mala. Sphatik is cooling and calming and works very well with rudraksha. You may want to wear the Siddha mala for meditation only and wear the wrist mala during the day. You may want to start with only a pendant of 1 mukhi and work up to the rest as you system gets used to the energies. You may want to enlist the Aid of the Bach Flower Essence of Rescue Remedy that you can purchase at most Health Food Stores. It is a complimentary medicine that help people through challenging times. Its energies are most conducive to the Rudrakshas Please do not get discouraged in all this, for I feel that time will tell that you are in the midst of a process that will prove to be incredibly liberating and healing. Take Care, Kanti In a message dated 5/18/2003 5:34:02 PM Central Daylight Time, shehoss99 writes: > Hello Members, > > I am writing in with my experience so far using a 1-13, ganesh, gauri > shankar rudraksha mala and 4,6,7,9 bracelet. I noticed another member had > a similar experience to mine using the Dhyan Kanth Yog mala and hope > someone can help (us). > > I have been wearing my beads now for 7 days during the days only and have > experienced a marked worsening of my ADD, very superficial scattered > meditations, bad insomnia, and terrible violent and sexual nightmares > whenever I have finally sleptg each night since I started wearing them. > Basically, results all opposite of what I'd hoped! (although I never really > thought about rudrakshas and dream life, but now, yes, I'd like some happy > dreams!). I initially had the bracelet on and the mala under my pillow, > but after two such days, decided trying to keep them off me and the bed, > but it didn't help much. > > I assume this is some sort of purgative period, but I am wondering how long > I might expect it to go on. I've also just taken a job building stone > walls and can't afford the exhaustion right now. I hate to not wear the > beads as, despite this upheaval, I find them dear and like their presence > near me, and I undertook a 40 day mantra/bead wearing sadhana when I first > put them on. > > Side note, I am finding I particularly want the 1 mukhi around. Feel a > very electric happy upliftment when I hold it! > > Any suggestions or guidance around this? > > Thanks in advance for any responses, > elizabeth > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 Hello Members, I am writing in with my experience so far using a 1-13, ganesh, gauri shankar rudraksha mala and 4,6,7,9 bracelet. I noticed another member had a similar experience to mine using the Dhyan Kanth Yog mala and hope someone can help (us). I have been wearing my beads now for 7 days during the days only and have experienced a marked worsening of my ADD, very superficial scattered meditations, bad insomnia, and terrible violent and sexual nightmares whenever I have finally sleptg each night since I started wearing them. Basically, results all opposite of what I'd hoped! (although I never really thought about rudrakshas and dream life, but now, yes, I'd like some happy dreams!). I initially had the bracelet on and the mala under my pillow, but after two such days, decided trying to keep them off me and the bed, but it didn't help much. I assume this is some sort of purgative period, but I am wondering how long I might expect it to go on. I've also just taken a job building stone walls and can't afford the exhaustion right now. I hate to not wear the beads as, despite this upheaval, I find them dear and like their presence near me, and I undertook a 40 day mantra/bead wearing sadhana when I first put them on. Side note, I am finding I particularly want the 1 mukhi around. Feel a very electric happy upliftment when I hold it! Any suggestions or guidance around this? Thanks in advance for any responses, elizabeth The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 I've never found this. Sexuality sometimes comes with increased energy. Some people it seems have stronger swings between deeper rest and greater fatigue and sleeplessness until they balance out but that's also not my experience. - shehoss Sunday, May 18, 2003 5:32 PM difficult side effects (?) of using rudrakshas Hello Members, I am writing in with my experience so far using a 1-13, ganesh, gauri shankar rudraksha mala and 4,6,7,9 bracelet. I noticed another member had a similar experience to mine using the Dhyan Kanth Yog mala and hope someone can help (us). I have been wearing my beads now for 7 days during the days only and have experienced a marked worsening of my ADD, very superficial scattered meditations, bad insomnia, and terrible violent and sexual nightmares whenever I have finally sleptg each night since I started wearing them. Basically, results all opposite of what I'd hoped! (although I never really thought about rudrakshas and dream life, but now, yes, I'd like some happy dreams!). I initially had the bracelet on and the mala under my pillow, but after two such days, decided trying to keep them off me and the bed, but it didn't help much. I assume this is some sort of purgative period, but I am wondering how long I might expect it to go on. I've also just taken a job building stone walls and can't afford the exhaustion right now. I hate to not wear the beads as, despite this upheaval, I find them dear and like their presence near me, and I undertook a 40 day mantra/bead wearing sadhana when I first put them on. Side note, I am finding I particularly want the 1 mukhi around. Feel a very electric happy upliftment when I hold it! Any suggestions or guidance around this? Thanks in advance for any responses, elizabeth The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Sponsor Privacy Policy To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 Clearing process - a good validation of the power of the Rudraksha... no telling how long it will go on, but it will definitely shift... I'd say give it 30 - 60 days... namaste alan >shehoss <shehoss99 > > >difficult side effects (?) of using rudrakshas >Sun, 18 May 2003 15:32:57 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello Members, > >I am writing in with my experience so far using a 1-13, ganesh, gauri >shankar rudraksha mala and 4,6,7,9 bracelet. I noticed another member had >a similar experience to mine using the Dhyan Kanth Yog mala and hope >someone can help (us). > >I have been wearing my beads now for 7 days during the days only and have >experienced a marked worsening of my ADD, very superficial scattered >meditations, bad insomnia, and terrible violent and sexual nightmares >whenever I have finally sleptg each night since I started wearing them. >Basically, results all opposite of what I'd hoped! (although I never really >thought about rudrakshas and dream life, but now, yes, I'd like some happy >dreams!). I initially had the bracelet on and the mala under my pillow, >but after two such days, decided trying to keep them off me and the bed, >but it didn't help much. > >I assume this is some sort of purgative period, but I am wondering how long >I might expect it to go on. I've also just taken a job building stone >walls and can't afford the exhaustion right now. I hate to not wear the >beads as, despite this upheaval, I find them dear and like their presence >near me, and I undertook a 40 day mantra/bead wearing sadhana when I first >put them on. > >Side note, I am finding I particularly want the 1 mukhi around. Feel a >very electric happy upliftment when I hold it! > >Any suggestions or guidance around this? > >Thanks in advance for any responses, >elizabeth > > > > > > >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > _______________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 Dear R u doing the shanti path after your meditations and are u doing blessings? These r a must muust for any sadhna to fruityfy.. lol Yogi ashwini dhyan foundation Alan Scherr <source311 wrote: Clearing process - a good validation of the power of the Rudraksha... no telling how long it will go on, but it will definitely shift... I'd say give it 30 - 60 days... namaste alan >shehoss <shehoss99 > > >difficult side effects (?) of using rudrakshas >Sun, 18 May 2003 15:32:57 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello Members, > >I am writing in with my experience so far using a 1-13, ganesh, gauri >shankar rudraksha mala and 4,6,7,9 bracelet. I noticed another member had >a similar experience to mine using the Dhyan Kanth Yog mala and hope >someone can help (us). > >I have been wearing my beads now for 7 days during the days only and have >experienced a marked worsening of my ADD, very superficial scattered >meditations, bad insomnia, and terrible violent and sexual nightmares >whenever I have finally sleptg each night since I started wearing them. >Basically, results all opposite of what I'd hoped! (although I never really >thought about rudrakshas and dream life, but now, yes, I'd like some happy >dreams!). I initially had the bracelet on and the mala under my pillow, >but after two such days, decided trying to keep them off me and the bed, >but it didn't help much. > >I assume this is some sort of purgative period, but I am wondering how long >I might expect it to go on. I've also just taken a job building stone >walls and can't afford the exhaustion right now. I hate to not wear the >beads as, despite this upheaval, I find them dear and like their presence >near me, and I undertook a 40 day mantra/bead wearing sadhana when I first >put them on. > >Side note, I am finding I particularly want the 1 mukhi around. Feel a >very electric happy upliftment when I hold it! > >Any suggestions or guidance around this? > >Thanks in advance for any responses, >elizabeth > > > > > > >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > _______________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail To send an email to: Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Thanks again to everyone for the kind thoughts and advice regarding my experiences. Very helpful. The difficulties seem to be subsiding now. Yogi Ashwini, what do you mean by shanti path and blessings? I always chant shanti at end of meditation and visualize the entire world wrapped peace, health, abundance, and happiness. Is this what you mean? Or is it something else? Thank you, e wrote: To send an email to: ------ There are 8 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. email alert to group members "srdharmadevaarya" 2. SATA RUDRA ABHISHEKAM "srdharmadevaarya" 3. Re: email alert to group members thunderheals 4. Higher Energies thunderheals 5. Re: Dhyan Yog Kantha Rudraksha ashwini yogi 6. Re: difficult side effects (?) of using rudrakshas ashwini yogi 7. Re: Dhyan Yog Kantha Rudraksha "sim2bmindful" 8. Rudraksha Bead Societies Club. "shivayimatha_balaji" ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Tue, 20 May 2003 15:54:00 -0000 "srdharmadevaarya" email alert to group members Dear Friends We have been recieveing questionable emails here at Rudra Center America......... that have the first part of our group members private email addresses....... in the From box.....makeing it look like a message from one of our members They are not from any of our group members and our virus control system is rejecting these messages with a warning icon Someone out there has seen our membership list and is actively sending false messages that are automaticly rejected here. I hope you are not recieving any of these false messages Thinking it might be a good idea to go back to the system of haveing our group messages say Rudraksa Bead Club Society in the subject line so we can have safer message control for our members If anyone has any ideas on this please let us know Thanks and Take Care My Friends DharmaDev ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Tue, 20 May 2003 16:46:05 -0000 "srdharmadevaarya" SATA RUDRA ABHISHEKAM Dear Friends Siva Visnu Temple in San Diego is haveing Sata Rudra Abishekam celebrations commencing on June 1st and concluding on July 20th for 8 Sundays with Rudra Homam Anyone in this area at the time are invited to Temple at 7930 Arjons Drive San Diego California Telephone 858-549-3940 Will print some of what the sponsorship form describes for this most Auspicious Celebration AUM Namo Bhagavate Rudraya SATA RUDRA ABHISHEKAM ( Laghu Rudram ) The Rudram is addressed to worship Lord Siva who is said to give devotee who seeks his grace anythink that is asked for. Rudram comprises of two parts, The Namakam and The Chamakam. The Namakam signifies the devotees offering. The Chamakam signifies devotees asking for all the things they could possibly want. Haveing been pacified Rudra is requested to destroy the sins of those for whom it is being chanted. Also the Rudram is chanted to obtain leadership, divine benevolence, protection from famine, freedom from fear and for absence from fear of untimely death. It is also chanted as a shield ( Kavacha ) for virulent fever, to cure diseases, fetal disorders, for fullfillment of ones desires, sumptuous rainfall, family protection, Blessings with good children, fulfillment of all material desires and the destruction of enemies. Always worshipping Shiva through Rudra Abhishekam will reduce the ill effects of the Navagraha, especially Shani dosha and seven and half Saturn dosha ( Sade Sati ) effect. As per Astrology, Vrishaba, Mithuna and Karkataka rasi are faceing Sade Sati for next couple of years. Sponsorship Complete Event $116 ( includes Special Prasadam ) Each Abhishekam $31 Homam $51 Temple Website can be found by going to .com search engine and typing in Shiva Vishnu Temple San Diego Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum Dhanyavaad Cha Pranams Mitra DharmaDev Arya ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Tue, 20 May 2003 13:23:51 EDT thunderheals Re: email alert to group members Dear Dharma Devaji: I agree. Having the name of the Group on the subject line would most definately help. I have not received any of these, but my server has an automatic virus control that doesn't allow questionable emails to get to me. Thank you for letting us know. Unfortunately this seems to happen about every 6 months. Om Namah Shivaya Kanti In a message dated 5/20/2003 10:56:24 AM Central Daylight Time, shininglotus writes: > Dear Friends > > We have been recieveing questionable emails here at Rudra Center > America......... that have the first part of our group members > private email addresses....... in the From box.....makeing it look > like a message from one of our members > > They are not from any of our group members and our virus control > system is rejecting these messages with a warning icon > > Someone out there has seen our membership list and is actively > sending false messages that are automaticly rejected here. I hope you > are not recieving any of these false messages > > Thinking it might be a good idea to go back to the system of haveing > our group messages say Rudraksa Bead Club Society in the subject line > so we can have safer message control for our members > > If anyone has any ideas on this please let us know > > Thanks and Take Care My Friends > > DharmaDev > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Tue, 20 May 2003 13:52:50 EDT thunderheals Higher Energies Namaste. I came upon this today in a book I was looking at and it brought to mind our recent discussions concerning different intitial experiences people were having with the rudrakshas. It may give another perspective: "The Guru Lord Shiva is the greatest transformer of individuals that I know. He is constantly available and showering us with an imminent descent of a very strong energy. We are not structured in our physical and subtle bodies to truly receive the potential of this energy. We need to change from 12 volts, as we are now to 220 volts, as we should be to receive this energy without being electrocuted. The high power energy will melt our untrained circuits. In a few words this is why we need to change, why we need transformation: not to suffer, not to die. Its a duty, a primary need. " - "Only Love" by Jai Datt Because the Divine within us is unlimited and omnipotent, it seems to me that the potential and the power of the Divine Shakti that we are able to access is also unlimited. Through the Grace and the Presence of the Divine contained within the rudraksha we are constantly being "re-wired" to receive more. All this talk about purging and impurity can wronly imply that we are less than perfect or tainted in some way and the rudraksha will "fix" us. Reading these words, it occured to me that since the rudrakshas are gifts of Grace that assist us in knowing our full potential..isn't what really occurs to us in unpleasantness within our bodies, minds or in outer circumstances upon wearing them..merely a process of shifting and refining our capabilites of receiving this Divine Energy, this Kundalini Shakti ? Om Namah Shivaya Kanti ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Tue, 20 May 2003 20:07:29 +0100 (BST) ashwini yogi Re: Dhyan Yog Kantha Rudraksha Simji I would recommend lot of service and charity to the poor for a faster movement. blessings to you Yogi ashwini Dhyan foundation sim2bmindful wrote: Dear Members Thank you so much for your help and kindness. I guess eventually I will be able to adjust to the higher body's energy. I'm also certain in the days to come, more will be revealed. Once again thank you. Best wishes Sim , ashwini yogi wrote: > Hell0 aii > > Your expalanations of the effect on the human body of the kundalini are correct. > > The important point to note here is this that Dhyan which in lay mans terms is called meditation is supposed to take you to a state of complete zero,any sensations felt only indicate that you have a weak body viz a viz your state in dhyan.So rather instead of imagining that this is an experience ,understand that your form needs purifications. > > Blessings to all > DHYAN FOUNDATION > Yogi Ashwini > > Kirk wrote: > The first year I meditated at MIU in 83 I felt I was on fire the entire time - 24 hours a day, and at night I heard my synapses firing like machine guns. It went away and now I have a hard time remembering the sensation. It doesn't happen at all any longer. > - > Alan Scherr > > Sunday, May 18, 2003 9:15 AM > Re: Dhyan Yog Kantha Rudraksha > > > Hello all - may I offer an observation based on many years of meditative > experience that the sensation of heat in relation to any spiritual practice > or proximity to a pure material such as Rudraksha, Parad, Shiva Lingam, etc. > is due to the movement of subtle (Kundalini) energy through the denser > dimensions of the human form, which equates to resistance. > > As one becomes increasingly stabilized in more expanded states of awareness > as a result of meditation or other spiritual practices, this heat is > experienced to a diminishing extent. There is no association with anything > inappropriate. The heat is simply a manifestation of energy moving through > form and is a validation of the authenticity of the Rudraksha or whatever is > involved..... > > regards, > alan > > > >thunderheals@a... > > > > > >Re: Dhyan Yog Kantha Rudraksha > >Sat, 17 May 2003 21:50:41 EDT > > > >Dear Simji: > > > >I don't wear that specific mala, but 9 mukhi and 11 mukhi are the primary > >rudrakshas that I use and I have worn malas with multiple beads of those > >kind > >as well as multiple 1 mukhi and 5 at different times. > > > >No I do not think that your experience is a sign of incompatibility. > >Feeling tremendous heat from the rudraksha is not un-common. > > > >Defining what exactly that heat is would simply be speculation on my > >part... > >The tremendous power of the rudraksha..spiritual power as well as the > >electromagnetic properties. > > > >It could be a burning out of samskaras, the imprints within our being that > >are harmful to us. > > > >I have never heard of anyone harming themselves in wearing a mala such as > >the > >Dhyan Yoga Kantha. > > > >Please try and use it again. Perhaps you may want to hold the mala. > > > >I also know specifically of Buddhist practitioners wearing the malas during > >their practices and have made rudraksha malas specifically for Buddhists, > >so > >there is no problem there. > > > >The beads on this mala are very much excellerators to spiritual growth. > >Everyone's experience is different. I used to wear a mala of 9 of 9 mukhi > >to > >bed when I first received my mala. > > > >Hopefully we will get some more input from other Members :-) > > > >Please keep us informed. > > > >Many Blessings, > >Kanti > > > >In a message dated 5/17/2003 8:37:25 PM Central Daylight Time, > >simbernard4@h... writes: > > > > > Dear Kantiji > > > Wow - That is great. Thanks for your enlightenment. By the way, do > > > you feel very warm when you wear this mala for meditation? I use it > > > for the first time last night and my mind just can't calm down > > > due to the tremendous heat circulating inside my body and the most > > > unbearable part is on both the shoulders and the neck area. Normally > > > I can easily sit for an hour or more but last night I was up before > > > 30 minutes time. Is this mean incompatibility? Your advise will be > > > greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > > > > > Sim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > Sponsor > > > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Sponsor > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker > > Sponsor function removeText(){if(document.newsLetter.emailID.value=="enter e-mail"){document.newsLetter.emailID.value="";}}function validateCheck(){var validEntry;var validEmail;for(x=0;x [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] Privacy Policy To send an email to: Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Tue, 20 May 2003 20:11:52 +0100 (BST) ashwini yogi Re: difficult side effects (?) of using rudrakshas Dear R u doing the shanti path after your meditations and are u doing blessings? These r a must muust for any sadhna to fruityfy.. lol Yogi ashwini dhyan foundation Alan Scherr wrote: Clearing process - a good validation of the power of the Rudraksha... no telling how long it will go on, but it will definitely shift... I'd say give it 30 - 60 days... namaste alan >shehoss > > >difficult side effects (?) of using rudrakshas >Sun, 18 May 2003 15:32:57 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello Members, > >I am writing in with my experience so far using a 1-13, ganesh, gauri >shankar rudraksha mala and 4,6,7,9 bracelet. I noticed another member had >a similar experience to mine using the Dhyan Kanth Yog mala and hope >someone can help (us). > >I have been wearing my beads now for 7 days during the days only and have >experienced a marked worsening of my ADD, very superficial scattered >meditations, bad insomnia, and terrible violent and sexual nightmares >whenever I have finally sleptg each night since I started wearing them. >Basically, results all opposite of what I'd hoped! (although I never really >thought about rudrakshas and dream life, but now, yes, I'd like some happy >dreams!). I initially had the bracelet on and the mala under my pillow, >but after two such days, decided trying to keep them off me and the bed, >but it didn't help much. > >I assume this is some sort of purgative period, but I am wondering how long >I might expect it to go on. I've also just taken a job building stone >walls and can't afford the exhaustion right now. I hate to not wear the >beads as, despite this upheaval, I find them dear and like their presence >near me, and I undertook a 40 day mantra/bead wearing sadhana when I first >put them on. > >Side note, I am finding I particularly want the 1 mukhi around. Feel a >very electric happy upliftment when I hold it! > >Any suggestions or guidance around this? > >Thanks in advance for any responses, >elizabeth > > > > > > >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > _______________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail To send an email to: Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker ______________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Wed, 21 May 2003 04:25:18 -0000 "sim2bmindful" Re: Dhyan Yog Kantha Rudraksha Dear Yogi Ashwiniji Yes, compassionate actions are always in my awareness in my daily life and especially in my place (Singapore) we have many opportunities to put it into practice. Thanks for your kind reminder. I have been continuing practicing my meditation with the Dhyan Yog Kantha and after three days of struggling, (sometimes, struggle is a main factor for practice) I am confident that I'm slowly but surely getting in tune with them. I sense that the Dhyan Yog Kantha is telling me to direct my attention to experience mindfulness of body, experience directly the sensations and vibrations of the body, as been taught in the Buddhist Insight meditation also known as Vipassana. Miss Neeta told me that rudraksha enters lives of people in strange ways and brings with it lots of auspiciousness and good luck. I am truly convinced now and also realize that their ways may not be in line with our expectation. Once again thank you for your help and kindness. Sim , ashwini yogi wrote: > Simji > I would recommend lot of service and charity to the poor for a faster movement. > blessings to you > Yogi ashwini > Dhyan foundation > > sim2bmindful wrote: > Dear Members > Thank you so much for your help and kindness. I guess eventually I > will be able to adjust to the higher body's energy. I'm also certain > in the days to come, more will be revealed. Once again thank you. > > Best wishes > Sim > > , ashwini yogi > wrote: > > Hell0 aii > > > > Your expalanations of the effect on the human body of the kundalini > are correct. > > > > The important point to note here is this that Dhyan which in lay > mans terms is called meditation is supposed to take you to a state of > complete zero,any sensations felt only indicate that you have a weak > body viz a viz your state in dhyan.So rather instead of imagining > that this is an experience ,understand that your form needs === message truncated === The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Dear e Try this and see the effect after meditating.Also there has to be Om! before and after every mantra.Chant the shanti path very gently elongating the endings. Regards Yogi Ashwini. "Om! Dehuu shanti antriksham Shanti prithvi. Shanti rapa. Shanti sama. Shanti aushadhya. Shanti Vanaspataya. shanti Vishvadeva. Shanti Brahma Shanti reva. Shanti riddhi. Shanti sarvagyam[3] Om !dehu shanti [3]Om! shehoss <shehoss99 wrote: Thanks again to everyone for the kind thoughts and advice regarding my experiences. Very helpful. The difficulties seem to be subsiding now. Yogi Ashwini, what do you mean by shanti path and blessings? I always chant shanti at end of meditation and visualize the entire world wrapped peace, health, abundance, and happiness. Is this what you mean? Or is it something else? Thank you, e wrote: To send an email to: ------ There are 8 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. email alert to group members "srdharmadevaarya" 2. SATA RUDRA ABHISHEKAM "srdharmadevaarya" 3. Re: email alert to group members thunderheals 4. Higher Energies thunderheals 5. Re: Dhyan Yog Kantha Rudraksha ashwini yogi 6. Re: difficult side effects (?) of using rudrakshas ashwini yogi 7. Re: Dhyan Yog Kantha Rudraksha "sim2bmindful" 8. Rudraksha Bead Societies Club. "shivayimatha_balaji" ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Tue, 20 May 2003 15:54:00 -0000 "srdharmadevaarya" email alert to group members Dear Friends We have been recieveing questionable emails here at Rudra Center America......... that have the first part of our group members private email addresses....... in the From box.....makeing it look like a message from one of our members They are not from any of our group members and our virus control system is rejecting these messages with a warning icon Someone out there has seen our membership list and is actively sending false messages that are automaticly rejected here. I hope you are not recieving any of these false messages Thinking it might be a good idea to go back to the system of haveing our group messages say Rudraksa Bead Club Society in the subject line so we can have safer message control for our members If anyone has any ideas on this please let us know Thanks and Take Care My Friends DharmaDev ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Tue, 20 May 2003 16:46:05 -0000 "srdharmadevaarya" SATA RUDRA ABHISHEKAM Dear Friends Siva Visnu Temple in San Diego is haveing Sata Rudra Abishekam celebrations commencing on June 1st and concluding on July 20th for 8 Sundays with Rudra Homam Anyone in this area at the time are invited to Temple at 7930 Arjons Drive San Diego California Telephone 858-549-3940 Will print some of what the sponsorship form describes for this most Auspicious Celebration AUM Namo Bhagavate Rudraya SATA RUDRA ABHISHEKAM ( Laghu Rudram ) The Rudram is addressed to worship Lord Siva who is said to give devotee who seeks his grace anythink that is asked for. Rudram comprises of two parts, The Namakam and The Chamakam. The Namakam signifies the devotees offering. The Chamakam signifies devotees asking for all the things they could possibly want. Haveing been pacified Rudra is requested to destroy the sins of those for whom it is being chanted. Also the Rudram is chanted to obtain leadership, divine benevolence, protection from famine, freedom from fear and for absence from fear of untimely death. It is also chanted as a shield ( Kavacha ) for virulent fever, to cure diseases, fetal disorders, for fullfillment of ones desires, sumptuous rainfall, family protection, Blessings with good children, fulfillment of all material desires and the destruction of enemies. Always worshipping Shiva through Rudra Abhishekam will reduce the ill effects of the Navagraha, especially Shani dosha and seven and half Saturn dosha ( Sade Sati ) effect. As per Astrology, Vrishaba, Mithuna and Karkataka rasi are faceing Sade Sati for next couple of years. Sponsorship Complete Event $116 ( includes Special Prasadam ) Each Abhishekam $31 Homam $51 Temple Website can be found by going to .com search engine and typing in Shiva Vishnu Temple San Diego Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum Dhanyavaad Cha Pranams Mitra DharmaDev Arya ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Tue, 20 May 2003 13:23:51 EDT thunderheals Re: email alert to group members Dear Dharma Devaji: I agree. Having the name of the Group on the subject line would most definately help. I have not received any of these, but my server has an automatic virus control that doesn't allow questionable emails to get to me. Thank you for letting us know. Unfortunately this seems to happen about every 6 months. Om Namah Shivaya Kanti In a message dated 5/20/2003 10:56:24 AM Central Daylight Time, shininglotus writes: > Dear Friends > > We have been recieveing questionable emails here at Rudra Center > America......... that have the first part of our group members > private email addresses....... in the From box.....makeing it look > like a message from one of our members > > They are not from any of our group members and our virus control > system is rejecting these messages with a warning icon > > Someone out there has seen our membership list and is actively > sending false messages that are automaticly rejected here. I hope you > are not recieving any of these false messages > > Thinking it might be a good idea to go back to the system of haveing > our group messages say Rudraksa Bead Club Society in the subject line > so we can have safer message control for our members > > If anyone has any ideas on this please let us know > > Thanks and Take Care My Friends > > DharmaDev > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Tue, 20 May 2003 13:52:50 EDT thunderheals Higher Energies Namaste. I came upon this today in a book I was looking at and it brought to mind our recent discussions concerning different intitial experiences people were having with the rudrakshas. It may give another perspective: "The Guru Lord Shiva is the greatest transformer of individuals that I know. He is constantly available and showering us with an imminent descent of a very strong energy. We are not structured in our physical and subtle bodies to truly receive the potential of this energy. We need to change from 12 volts, as we are now to 220 volts, as we should be to receive this energy without being electrocuted. The high power energy will melt our untrained circuits. In a few words this is why we need to change, why we need transformation: not to suffer, not to die. Its a duty, a primary need. " - "Only Love" by Jai Datt Because the Divine within us is unlimited and omnipotent, it seems to me that the potential and the power of the Divine Shakti that we are able to access is also unlimited. Through the Grace and the Presence of the Divine contained within the rudraksha we are constantly being "re-wired" to receive more. All this talk about purging and impurity can wronly imply that we are less than perfect or tainted in some way and the rudraksha will "fix" us. Reading these words, it occured to me that since the rudrakshas are gifts of Grace that assist us in knowing our full potential..isn't what really occurs to us in unpleasantness within our bodies, minds or in outer circumstances upon wearing them..merely a process of shifting and refining our capabilites of receiving this Divine Energy, this Kundalini Shakti ? Om Namah Shivaya Kanti ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Tue, 20 May 2003 20:07:29 +0100 (BST) ashwini yogi Re: Dhyan Yog Kantha Rudraksha Simji I would recommend lot of service and charity to the poor for a faster movement. blessings to you Yogi ashwini Dhyan foundation sim2bmindful wrote: Dear Members Thank you so much for your help and kindness. I guess eventually I will be able to adjust to the higher body's energy. I'm also certain in the days to come, more will be revealed. Once again thank you. Best wishes Sim , ashwini yogi wrote: > Hell0 aii > > Your expalanations of the effect on the human body of the kundalini are correct. > > The important point to note here is this that Dhyan which in lay mans terms is called meditation is supposed to take you to a state of complete zero,any sensations felt only indicate that you have a weak body viz a viz your state in dhyan.So rather instead of imagining that this is an experience ,understand that your form needs purifications. > > Blessings to all > DHYAN FOUNDATION > Yogi Ashwini > > Kirk wrote: > The first year I meditated at MIU in 83 I felt I was on fire the entire time - 24 hours a day, and at night I heard my synapses firing like machine guns. It went away and now I have a hard time remembering the sensation. It doesn't happen at all any longer. > - > Alan Scherr > > Sunday, May 18, 2003 9:15 AM > Re: Dhyan Yog Kantha Rudraksha > > > Hello all - may I offer an observation based on many years of meditative > experience that the sensation of heat in relation to any spiritual practice > or proximity to a pure material such as Rudraksha, Parad, Shiva Lingam, etc. > is due to the movement of subtle (Kundalini) energy through the denser > dimensions of the human form, which equates to resistance. > > As one becomes increasingly stabilized in more expanded states of awareness > as a result of meditation or other spiritual practices, this heat is > experienced to a diminishing extent. There is no association with anything > inappropriate. The heat is simply a manifestation of energy moving through > form and is a validation of the authenticity of the Rudraksha or whatever is > involved..... > > regards, > alan > > > >thunderheals@a... > > > > > >Re: Dhyan Yog Kantha Rudraksha > >Sat, 17 May 2003 21:50:41 EDT > > > >Dear Simji: > > > >I don't wear that specific mala, but 9 mukhi and 11 mukhi are the primary > >rudrakshas that I use and I have worn malas with multiple beads of those > >kind > >as well as multiple 1 mukhi and 5 at different times. > > > >No I do not think that your experience is a sign of incompatibility. > >Feeling tremendous heat from the rudraksha is not un-common. > > > >Defining what exactly that heat is would simply be speculation on my > >part... > >The tremendous power of the rudraksha..spiritual power as well as the > >electromagnetic properties. > > > >It could be a burning out of samskaras, the imprints within our being that > >are harmful to us. > > > >I have never heard of anyone harming themselves in wearing a mala such as > >the > >Dhyan Yoga Kantha. > > > >Please try and use it again. Perhaps you may want to hold the mala. > > > >I also know specifically of Buddhist practitioners wearing the malas during > >their practices and have made rudraksha malas specifically for Buddhists, > >so > >there is no problem there. > > > >The beads on this mala are very much excellerators to spiritual growth. > >Everyone's experience is different. I used to wear a mala of 9 of 9 mukhi > >to > >bed when I first received my mala. > > > >Hopefully we will get some more input from other Members :-) > > > >Please keep us informed. > > > >Many Blessings, > >Kanti > > > >In a message dated 5/17/2003 8:37:25 PM Central Daylight Time, > >simbernard4@h... writes: > > > > > Dear Kantiji > > > Wow - That is great. Thanks for your enlightenment. By the way, do > > > you feel very warm when you wear this mala for meditation? I use it > > > for the first time last night and my mind just can't calm down > > > due to the tremendous heat circulating inside my body and the most > > > unbearable part is on both the shoulders and the neck area. Normally > > > I can easily sit for an hour or more but last night I was up before > > > 30 minutes time. Is this mean incompatibility? Your advise will be > > > greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > > > > > Sim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > Sponsor > > > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Sponsor > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker > > Sponsor function removeText(){if(document.newsLetter.emailID.value=="enter e-mail"){document.newsLetter.emailID.value="";}}function validateCheck(){var validEntry;var validEmail;for(x=0;x [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] Privacy Policy To send an email to: Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Tue, 20 May 2003 20:11:52 +0100 (BST) ashwini yogi Re: difficult side effects (?) of using rudrakshas Dear R u doing the shanti path after your meditations and are u doing blessings? These r a must muust for any sadhna to fruityfy.. lol Yogi ashwini dhyan foundation Alan Scherr wrote: Clearing process - a good validation of the power of the Rudraksha... no telling how long it will go on, but it will definitely shift... I'd say give it 30 - 60 days... namaste alan >shehoss > > >difficult side effects (?) of using rudrakshas >Sun, 18 May 2003 15:32:57 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello Members, > >I am writing in with my experience so far using a 1-13, ganesh, gauri >shankar rudraksha mala and 4,6,7,9 bracelet. I noticed another member had >a similar experience to mine using the Dhyan Kanth Yog mala and hope >someone can help (us). > >I have been wearing my beads now for 7 days during the days only and have >experienced a marked worsening of my ADD, very superficial scattered >meditations, bad insomnia, and terrible violent and sexual nightmares >whenever I have finally sleptg each night since I started wearing them. >Basically, results all opposite of what I'd hoped! (although I never really >thought about rudrakshas and dream life, but now, yes, I'd like some happy >dreams!). I initially had the bracelet on and the mala under my pillow, >but after two such days, decided trying to keep them off me and the bed, >but it didn't help much. > >I assume this is some sort of purgative period, but I am wondering how long >I might expect it to go on. I've also just taken a job building stone >walls and can't afford the exhaustion right now. I hate to not wear the >beads as, despite this upheaval, I find them dear and like their presence >near me, and I undertook a 40 day mantra/bead wearing sadhana when I first >put them on. > >Side note, I am finding I particularly want the 1 mukhi around. Feel a >very electric happy upliftment when I hold it! > >Any suggestions or guidance around this? > >Thanks in advance for any responses, >elizabeth > > > > > > >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > _______________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail To send an email to: Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker ______________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Wed, 21 May 2003 04:25:18 -0000 "sim2bmindful" Re: Dhyan Yog Kantha Rudraksha Dear Yogi Ashwiniji Yes, compassionate actions are always in my awareness in my daily life and especially in my place (Singapore) we have many opportunities to put it into practice. Thanks for your kind reminder. I have been continuing practicing my meditation with the Dhyan Yog Kantha and after three days of struggling, (sometimes, struggle is a main factor for practice) I am confident that I'm slowly but surely getting in tune with them. I sense that the Dhyan Yog Kantha is telling me to direct my attention to experience mindfulness of body, experience directly the sensations and vibrations of the body, as been taught in the Buddhist Insight meditation also known as Vipassana. Miss Neeta told me that rudraksha enters lives of people in strange ways and brings with it lots of auspiciousness and good luck. I am truly convinced now and also realize that their ways may not be in line with our expectation. Once again thank you for your help and kindness. Sim , ashwini yogi wrote: > Simji > I would recommend lot of service and charity to the poor for a faster movement. > blessings to you > Yogi ashwini > Dhyan foundation > > sim2bmindful wrote: > Dear Members > Thank you so much for your help and kindness. I guess eventually I > will be able to adjust to the higher body's energy. I'm also certain > in the days to come, more will be revealed. Once again thank you. > > Best wishes > Sim > > , ashwini yogi > wrote: > > Hell0 aii > > > > Your expalanations of the effect on the human body of the kundalini > are correct. > > > > The important point to note here is this that Dhyan which in lay > mans terms is called meditation is supposed to take you to a state of > complete zero,any sensations felt only indicate that you have a weak > body viz a viz your state in dhyan.So rather instead of imagining > that this is an experience ,understand that your form needs === message truncated === The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Sponsor To send an email to: Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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