Guest guest Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Namaste what Bhagavan always stated was that they are two different paths that merge into one samadhi is a temporary state - if you were thirsty before you went into the state your first thought will be I am thirsty moksha is constant - our true nature there is no one there to be enlightened in this state the ego mind complex has been rendered inactive all is merged in Consciousness Jai Bhagavan Love baba --- In , "shivayimatha_balaji" <shivayimatha_balaji> wrote: > > > Dear Mr.Kalianandaswaiji, > > it is really nice to hear the > sayings of the Ramanamaharishi. i had been to this ashram more than > once. > > however i would like to say that > there is wide difference between Bakthi and Jnana. i mean to say > Bakthi and Janan is not one and the same. > > Bakthi is devotion to God and > showing constant surrendership to God. it is a spiritual exercise of > surrendership to God . > > Jnana is the fruits of Bakthi . > this Jnana provided perfect will ever ensure that God is everywhere > in every thought of action, thus making a Baktha to do ever actions > of Good Karma. > > Jnana without Bhakti is a total > junk. it is like a structure without foundation , can be shaken at > the site of a really spiritual seeker. > > similarly the thought of > Ramana Maharishi is not for everyone , but instead can be a perfect > guide to the spiritual seeker. > > infact his statements are the > experience of his own, which he makes known to everyone to realise > the reality. > > actually it is a tough job. > for the beginners in the field of spiritual reality will be led to > contemplation and forceing of their own indecision to be decisive. > > again no one can offer to God > anything in the way of naivedhya of themselves to God. > > mainly for the creator is > Bramha and for the supreme God being Lord of Vaikunta , one can only > find the prescence of gateway to these Gods in our own self ruled by > the consiousness of Bramhan in our Consiousness. > > even though Bramha is > pleased, without the grace of the Lord Narayana one cannot attain > Moksha. > > attaining samadhi at the > command of the God is totally different from attaining samadhi in the > way of Siddha. > > for the samadhi in the first > case is Moksha, whereas in the second case it is forecibly using the > Ganana to demonstrate the spiritual energy. > > > no spiritual energy without > bakthi is a total junk, which even Lord Krishna in Bhagavad Gita > explains very clearly. > > union in Bramhan is > secondary only compared to the attainment of the Soul at the Lotus > Feet of the Supreme God. > > and also being on this Earth > one cannot directly pray to the Supreme Lord for the Lord Bramha > takes the priority of doing Pooja to the Supreme Lord. > > the time of this puja by > Lord Bramha is called as the Bramha Muhurtha, during that time no one > on the Earth are entitled to perfom puja to the Supreme Lord . > > but one great way is still > alive, that is following the Bhakthas who reached to Vaikunta with > the grace of the supreme Lord. > > i do have a collection of > books from Ramana Ashram directly here with me, and i acknowledge > that actually the Nature of Self is Selfless. > > Sri Rama Jayam, > > Shiva Balaji > > > > , "Sri Janaardana > Kalianandaswami" <baba108@h...> wrote: > > Question: Is the thought `I am God' or `I am the Supreme Being' > > helpful? > > > > Sri Ramana Maharshi: `I am that I am'. `I am' is God, not thinking > > `I > > am God'. Realize `I am' and do not think `I am'. `Know I am God', > it > > is said, and not `Think I am God'. > > > > All talk of surrender is like pinching brown sugar from a brown > > sugar > > image of Lord Ganesha and offering it as Naivedya (food offering) > to > > the same Lord Ganesha. You say you offer your body, soul and all > > possessions to God. Were they yours that you could offer them? At > > best, you can only say, 'I falsely imagined till now that all these > > which are yours were mine. Now I realize they are yours. I shall no > > more act as if they are mine.' This knowledge that there is nothing > > but God or Self, that I or mine don't exist and that only the Self > > exists, is Jnana (knowledge). Thus there is no difference between > > Bhakti and Jnana. Bhakti is Jnana Mata (devotion is the mother of > > knowledge). > > > > Jai Bhagavan > > Love baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Namaste friends, Swami Vivekananda wrote in his book Raja Yoga, " Each soul is potentially divine. The goal is to manifest this Divinity with by controlling nature, external and internal. Do this either by work, or worship, or psychic control, or philosophy--by one or more, or all of these--and be free. This is the whole of religion. Doctrines, or dogmas, or rituals, or books, or temples, or forms, are but secondary details." For myself, I find I need a blend of karma yoga, raja, yoga, jnana yoga, and bhakti yoga. My guru whose guru was Swami Vivekananda told me that if you are interested in your own enlightenment alone find the path that suits you and follow it. If you are called to teach, investigate truth wherever you can find it, for you will need to reach people where they are. Sri Ramakrishna used to say that God is so gracious that he comes in whatever form the devotee needs and desires. Blessings to you all on your respective paths. Arjuna Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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