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Hi.

 

I think what has to be considered is the need for such testamonial material

on the Group Site....if there is a majority of Members who want or could

benefit from such postings.

 

We do get testamonials here and in India and the testamonial section of the

website is periodically updated.

 

Regarding cataloging for the Index, there is really no extra work for me.

 

I do know that there are testamonials in the archives. I never classified

them as such.

Personal testamonies are really throughout the various subjects we have

listed.

Will be mindful of this in the future in wording The Subject Lists

 

Personally, as an individual it is not something that holds interest for me.

I suppose I don't need to have access to such information.

 

As moderator, as mentioned, I would like to get feedback from other

members..from there..those who are interested in compiling such data can develop

methods to record such material and as things progress I will help as I can

based on

my work schedule.

 

As with everything regarding rudraksha..I have found...

If its suppose to happen it will just flow.

If its not suppose to happen, it won't.

 

So let's see what everyone has to say.

 

Om Namah Shivaya

Kanti

 

In a message dated 6/28/2003 3:33:46 PM Central Daylight Time,

shininglotus writes:

 

> Dear Elizabethji

>

> Namaskar My Friend and thanks for your suggestion......would the

> testimonials on our website help with reading more about specific

experiences.......if

> you would like to take on a project like this I can see that it would produce

> a lot of good information

>

> Thanks and Take Care My Friend

>

> DharmaDev

>

> shehoss <shehoss99

> <

> >

> Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:21 PM

> RBSC : posting suggestion

>

>

> Dear Members,

>

> In reading about the beads on the Rudraksha Centre website and reading the

> posts, it has occurred to me that it would be very helpful to those new to

> Rudraksha who are seeking their assistance for concrete conditions to have

> everyone post their exact experiences with the different mukhis. From what

> reading I've done in the archives, I've found very very few specific posts

about a

> definite healing. THe information on the Centre website and in the Rudraksha

> RAtna books seems to be largely parroting the scriptures and the claims of

> what the beads can do far outweigh the results I've read of. I am not trying

> to attack anyone on this, but simply being rational and wanting to help. (who

> knows, perhaps the claims in the scriptures were made in a Yuga when the

> effects were more precise and rapid to manifest). I think it would be very

> helpful to people out there in pain and in difficult circumstances to know the

> "reality" of what can be expecte! d wearing the beads. So, I propose that

> everyone on the list now send in all first-hand data they have about

> experiences with rudraksha in a condensed way. This would make a very

significant

> and succinct addition to the group files. I think it'd be good to include the

> vaguer shifts in daily experience, the very exact experiences like "my

> stomach ulcer has been healed" or "my income increased by 30% within 3 months

of

> beginning wearing them", and the no-change experiences to give a really

> complete picture of what people are experiencing. This data would be best

> submitted with an exact description of what mukhis were being used. For

instance, a

> submission like:

>

> rudrakshas worn: 1 1-face, 1-9face, 3 11-face

> experience: deepened and lenghtened meditations by estimated 50%

> time frame: this happened after 2 weeks and has continued ever since

> astrological predictions for this time frame (if known): my astrologer was

> suprised that this happened as I am not supposed to be in a time period of

> significant spiritual growth **this last factor is a bit of a pipe dream,

but

> it would truly help us clarify the role of the beads in mitigating karma**

>

> I think it would be fabulous if Rudra-Centre asked all purchasers to

> consider taking part in a Rudraksh Bead Societies Club study to monitor their

> effects. I think a similar study for use of gemstones would be equally as

helpful,

> perhaps more, as much more money is spent globally on gemstones than

> rudraksha.

>

> Before sending the responses I request, I suggest that we all wait until the

> group and group moderator responds to what I suggest so that hopefully a

> well-thought out "response form" is created to streamline and facilitate an

> effective response. I would be happy to help with any of these efforts if

Kanti

> needs help cataloging responses, etc.

>

> Your thoughts?

>

> Sincerely,

> elizabeth

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Dear Members,

 

In reading about the beads on the Rudraksha Centre website and reading the

posts, it has occurred to me that it would be very helpful to those new to

Rudraksha who are seeking their assistance for concrete conditions to have

everyone post their exact experiences with the different mukhis. From what

reading I've done in the archives, I've found very very few specific posts about

a definite healing. THe information on the Centre website and in the Rudraksha

RAtna books seems to be largely parroting the scriptures and the claims of what

the beads can do far outweigh the results I've read of. I am not trying to

attack anyone on this, but simply being rational and wanting to help. (who

knows, perhaps the claims in the scriptures were made in a Yuga when the effects

were more precise and rapid to manifest). I think it would be very helpful to

people out there in pain and in difficult circumstances to know the "reality" of

what can be expected wearing the beads. So, I propose that

everyone on the list now send in all first-hand data they have about

experiences with rudraksha in a condensed way. This would make a very

significant and succinct addition to the group files. I think it'd be good to

include the vaguer shifts in daily experience, the very exact experiences like

"my stomach ulcer has been healed" or "my income increased by 30% within 3

months of beginning wearing them", and the no-change experiences to give a

really complete picture of what people are experiencing. This data would be

best submitted with an exact description of what mukhis were being used. For

instance, a submission like:

 

rudrakshas worn: 1 1-face, 1-9face, 3 11-face

experience: deepened and lenghtened meditations by estimated 50%

time frame: this happened after 2 weeks and has continued ever since

astrological predictions for this time frame (if known): my astrologer was

suprised that this happened as I am not supposed to be in a time period of

significant spiritual growth **this last factor is a bit of a pipe dream, but

it would truly help us clarify the role of the beads in mitigating karma**

 

I think it would be fabulous if Rudra-Centre asked all purchasers to consider

taking part in a Rudraksh Bead Societies Club study to monitor their effects. I

think a similar study for use of gemstones would be equally as helpful, perhaps

more, as much more money is spent globally on gemstones than rudraksha.

 

Before sending the responses I request, I suggest that we all wait until the

group and group moderator responds to what I suggest so that hopefully a

well-thought out "response form" is created to streamline and facilitate an

effective response. I would be happy to help with any of these efforts if Kanti

needs help cataloging responses, etc.

 

Your thoughts?

 

Sincerely,

elizabeth

 

 

 

 

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Dear Elizabethji

 

Namaskar My Friend and thanks for your suggestion......would the testimonials on

our website help with reading more about specific experiences.......if you would

like to take on a project like this I can see that it would produce a lot of

good information

 

Thanks and Take Care My Friend

 

DharmaDev

 

shehoss <shehoss99

 

<>

Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:21 PM

RBSC : posting suggestion

 

 

Dear Members,

 

In reading about the beads on the Rudraksha Centre website and reading the

posts, it has occurred to me that it would be very helpful to those new to

Rudraksha who are seeking their assistance for concrete conditions to have

everyone post their exact experiences with the different mukhis. From what

reading I've done in the archives, I've found very very few specific posts about

a definite healing. THe information on the Centre website and in the Rudraksha

RAtna books seems to be largely parroting the scriptures and the claims of what

the beads can do far outweigh the results I've read of. I am not trying to

attack anyone on this, but simply being rational and wanting to help. (who

knows, perhaps the claims in the scriptures were made in a Yuga when the effects

were more precise and rapid to manifest). I think it would be very helpful to

people out there in pain and in difficult circumstances to know the "reality" of

what can be expecte! d wearing the beads. So, I propose that

everyone on the list now send in all first-hand data they have about experiences

with rudraksha in a condensed way. This would make a very significant and

succinct addition to the group files. I think it'd be good to include the

vaguer shifts in daily experience, the very exact experiences like "my stomach

ulcer has been healed" or "my income increased by 30% within 3 months of

beginning wearing them", and the no-change experiences to give a really complete

picture of what people are experiencing. This data would be best submitted with

an exact description of what mukhis were being used. For instance, a submission

like:

 

rudrakshas worn: 1 1-face, 1-9face, 3 11-face

experience: deepened and lenghtened meditations by estimated 50%

time frame: this happened after 2 weeks and has continued ever since

astrological predictions for this time frame (if known): my astrologer was

suprised that this happened as I am not supposed to be in a time period of

significant spiritual growth **this last factor is a bit of a pipe dream, but

it would truly help us clarify the role of the beads in mitigating karma**

 

I think it would be fabulous if Rudra-Centre asked all purchasers to consider

taking part in a Rudraksh Bead Societies Club study to monitor their effects. I

think a similar study for use of gemstones would be equally as helpful, perhaps

more, as much more money is spent globally on gemstones than rudraksha.

 

Before sending the responses I request, I suggest that we all wait until the

group and group moderator responds to what I suggest so that hopefully a

well-thought out "response form" is created to streamline and facilitate an

effective response. I would be happy to help with any of these efforts if Kanti

needs help cataloging responses, etc.

 

Your thoughts?

 

Sincerely,

elizabeth

 

 

 

 

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Dear Elizabeth:

I thought i'd put in my two cents based on my personal experience. In

general, i've had a positive experience since i started wearing

Rudrakshas. It would be very difficult for me to pinpoint exactly how

it has been beneficial or that the rudrakshas specifically had

anything to do with it and therein lies the problem. In general my

health has improved and things seem to fall in place more but then i

don't know if it's the rudrakshas or it's just the way things were

meant to be and i would have been fine wearing just plastic beads but

it so happens that i started wearing rudrakshas and i've started

noticing little things. Maybe these little things were happening all

the time but i've only now started noticing them. Who knows?

 

As far as specific health claims, i think it is a bit simplistic to

assume that rudrakshas can cure any and all conditions. If it were

that simple Ayurvedic vaidyas would be doling them out by the dozens.

After all they are more readily available than a number of plants so

why would anyone go to the trouble of trying to find anything else. I

consider myself a serious scholar and student of Ayurveda and have

yet to come across a reference that specifically recommends rudraksha

preparations for various health conditions. That is not to say that

it may not exist(Ayurvedic literature is encyclopaedic and i haven't

read every book).

Having said that, i have come across a number of vaidyas who suggest

a shita kashaya(cold infusion) of the beads specifically for lowering

blood pressure and know a number of folks in the Ayurvedic community

who wear them (which is how i got interested in the first place).

There is a class of preparations called Kshira paka (milk decoction)

in Ayurveda and what you are describing falls under that. It might

interest you to know that lasuna kshira paka (milk decoction of

garlic) is also recommended for general debility and neurological

conditions (even though garlic falls under the class of vegetables in

Ayurveda that are recommended to be eaten raw). According to the

scholar N.S. Mooss, the proportions are 2 tolas (approx 21 or 22

grams) of raw drug, approx 8 oz of milk and 32 oz of water are to be

boiled and reduced to 8 oz. (in other words, evaporate the water) and

drunk warm. I have used the same preparation with Ashwagandha and it

has helped a lot with my "nerves".

I'm a bit hesitant about testimonials because how can you

specifically say that the cure/bad luck whatever was because of the

rudrakshas. Just my thoughts. Good luck and i hope you get well.

Suraj

 

Disclaimer: The information presented herein is for information

purposes only and is not meant to diagnose, cure or mitigate any

disease. None of these statements have been approved by the FDA and

do not constitute a diagnosis or recommendation to cure or mitigate

any disease.

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Dear Respected Surajji

 

Thank you for adding this highly valuable information to our

archives.........From what I heard at the beginning of the year there is a book

being prepared in Delhi and if I remember correctly the title was something like

501 Uses of Rudraksa......Dont know the contents however Miss Neeta met the

author at the Delhi Exhibiton

 

Thanks and Take Care My Friend

 

DharmaDev

 

surajraghavan2002 <suraj_raghavan

 

<>

Saturday, June 28, 2003 4:25 PM

RBSC : Re: posting suggestion

 

 

Dear Elizabeth:

I thought i'd put in my two cents based on my personal experience. In

general, i've had a positive experience since i started wearing

Rudrakshas. It would be very difficult for me to pinpoint exactly how

it has been beneficial or that the rudrakshas specifically had

anything to do with it and therein lies the problem. In general my

health has improved and things seem to fall in place more but then i

don't know if it's the rudrakshas or it's just the way things were

meant to be and i would have been fine wearing just plastic beads but

it so happens that i started wearing rudrakshas and i've started

noticing little things. Maybe these little things were happening all

the time but i've only now started noticing them. Who knows?

 

As far as specific health claims, i think it is a bit simplistic to

assume that rudrakshas can cure any and all conditions. If it were

that simple Ayurvedic vaidyas would be doling them out by the dozens.

After all they are more readily available than a number of plants so

why would anyone go to the trouble of trying to find anything else. I

consider myself a serious scholar and student of Ayurveda and have

yet to come across a reference that specifically recommends rudraksha

preparations for various health conditions. That is not to say that

it may not exist(Ayurvedic literature is encyclopaedic and i haven't

read every book).

Having said that, i have come across a number of vaidyas who suggest

a shita kashaya(cold infusion) of the beads specifically for lowering

blood pressure and know a number of folks in the Ayurvedic community

who wear them (which is how i got interested in the first place).

There is a class of preparations called Kshira paka (milk decoction)

in Ayurveda and what you are describing falls under that. It might

interest you to know that lasuna kshira paka (milk decoction of

garlic) is also recommended for general debility and neurological

conditions (even though garlic falls under the class of vegetables in

Ayurveda that are recommended to be eaten raw). According to the

scholar N.S. Mooss, the proportions are 2 tolas (approx 21 or 22

grams) of raw drug, approx 8 oz of milk and 32 oz of water are to be

boiled and reduced to 8 oz. (in other words, evaporate the water) and

drunk warm. I have used the same preparation with Ashwagandha and it

has helped a lot with my "nerves".

I'm a bit hesitant about testimonials because how can you

specifically say that the cure/bad luck whatever was because of the

rudrakshas. Just my thoughts. Good luck and i hope you get well.

Suraj

 

Disclaimer: The information presented herein is for information

purposes only and is not meant to diagnose, cure or mitigate any

disease. None of these statements have been approved by the FDA and

do not constitute a diagnosis or recommendation to cure or mitigate

any disease.

 

 

 

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Dear Shri Dharmadev:

I don't know if my message is "archive" material but i'm glad you

find it useful:-) I'd be very interested in reading the book when it

is published. Do keep us posted.

Suraj

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Dear Ryanji

 

This is an immense testimony to the relationship between the Holy Rudraksa and

the Mankind .......have expereinced some of the same effects you are speaking of

especially the increase in Meditation with the 14 Mukhi on the Ajna

Chakra....After working with 14 Mukhi and other Rudraksa on Ajna Chakra Mala the

ability to sit for longer periods of time seems to integrate into

future........can sit in Siva Visnu Temple for 2 1/2 hours in Meditation now

dureing Satha RudraAbhishekam with all the chanting and ceremony and am totally

in Bliss......really need your permission to send your testimonial to Miss Neeta

so we can have this on our Testimonial Page of Website

 

Thanks for takeing the time to write of your experiences My Friend and many

thanks to Miss Elizabeth for prompting this time line

 

Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

 

DharmaDev Arya

 

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 5:22 PM

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My Experiences.

 

I was first introduced to Rudrakshas in February this year. I was

online searching for a yantra for some reason and came upon the Rudra

Center Website. Something about the beads caught my attention. I

asked for a recomendation and was told the Dhyan Yog would be good

for me.

 

Something told me I needed this necklace. Given, at this time I

wasn't of the mindset to drop $200.00 on a few wrinkled beads. I

talked to my wife. She told me I could order it. I don't know why.

She wasn't of the mind set to let me drop $200.00 on some wrinkled

beads on a string either.

 

Anyway, I got them. I placed the order and 4 days later they showed

up at my door. I put them on and I could feel the energy from them.

I'm a Pranic Healer and am used to feeling things like this. It was

very intense and I could feel my mind slowing down and finally

becoming completely still.

 

After this I meditated a long time and kept it up for several weeks.

Things were different. My awareness was clearer then it had been.

The inner flame had grown stronger.

 

I loved this necklace so much I decided to become a distributor. The

power of them is intense.

 

Next I ordered a recomendation for my wife. She got an 11, 10, 7, 4,

and a 5 on a silver chain. She liked it. She has been wearing it

since about March. She feels no inner difference, but her business

has almost doubled. She's a massage therapist too.

 

I ordered a 30mm 5 mukhi to do reiki with. When I hold it in my hand

I can feel a tingling feeling and have been using it on my back. I

go to sleep with it. Since falling asleep with this bead on my back,

the pain that was in my back for a year and a half dispersed. Now it

is a slight tightness that massage is easily remedying. Oddly enough

the pain that was in my right hand has vanished too. I can play

guitar again and enjoy it.

 

I also have a necklace with two 3 muhkis, two 6 mukhis, two 7 mukhis,

and one 13 mukhi. I can't wear it very often. When I do I feel like

my spinal cord is getting twisted too tight. I get grumpy and short

tempered. I wore it for about a month after I got it. Since then my

income and work has doubled. I've noticed more oppurtunities in

life. My ability to comprehend Ayurveda and Jyotish has increased.

The Rig Veda is clearer.

 

Since then I've ordered loose beads for friends and even sold a few.

All the people I give them too greet them with delight. Why? I mean

really they are just wrinkled up beads right? They had no idea what

they are, but they always seem to cherish them.

 

Recently I ordered a 14 mukhi(ajna chakra) for myself (my wife didn't

even kick me out of the house for spending all that money on a little

seed I strap to my head when I meditate) and so I could take a

picture of it and put it on my website for others to see what is

available. (That website isn't done yet)

 

This was the most interesting. When I started wearing it that was

when the last little remainder of my body pain left. My meditations

became clear. I could sit in pure consciousness for a very long

time. Usually I would meditate for 45 minutes twice a day. When

wearing this I sat naturally without strain for up to 90 minutes.

(this may not be a lot to most of you, but it was very different for

me) I didn't even get that after meditation fried feeling for

sitting that long. Peace remained afterwards. I didn't keep this

bead with me all the time. I only use it when I meditate. The

effects remain through out the day and night. The effects of each of

the beads I wear took this long:

 

**Dhyan Yog Kantha - Immediately

**Necklace with two 3 muhkis, two 6 mukhis, two 7 mukhis, and one 13

mukhi--This one took a while. I was still in the honeymoon of the

Dhyan Yog Kantha. After the month of wearing it I had a hard time

wearing it all the time.

**14 Mukhi - Immediately

 

Also, I noted with the Dhyan Yog Kantha I developed much more

energy. I was able to remain healthy, alert, and calm after only 4-5

hours of sleep when usually I had to get at least 8 to be happy and

peaceful in the morning. This effect did pass. Now I need about 7

hours.

 

That is my experience. I've found that being receptive to life and

allowing the highest good to flow through has been the greatest

help. Going with the flow and accepting any change as it comes is

helpful. That way I'm not holding onto the past and am able to

respond appropriately to the present and future possibilities. I

just wanted to remain in Superconscious all the time. That is why I

bought the beads. I am now done spending money on my enlightenment.

I've spent enough I think. The other things that occurred just

happened. I didn't seek them out.

 

So now I hope to share this with others. That is why I became a

distributor. They work for me, that is all I can tell you.

 

Best Wishes,

Ryan-

 

 

 

 

, shehoss

<shehoss99> wrote:

> Dear Members,

>

> In reading about the beads on the Rudraksha Centre website and

reading the posts, it has occurred to me that it would be very

helpful to those new to Rudraksha who are seeking their assistance

for concrete conditions to have everyone post their exact experiences

with the different mukhis. From what reading I've done in the

archives, I've found very very few specific posts about a definite

healing. THe information on the Centre website and in the Rudraksha

RAtna books seems to be largely parroting the scriptures and the

claims of what the beads can do far outweigh the results I've read

of. I am not trying to attack anyone on this, but simply being

rational and wanting to help. (who knows, perhaps the claims in the

scriptures were made in a Yuga when the effects were more precise and

rapid to manifest). I think it would be very helpful to people out

there in pain and in difficult circumstances to know the "reality" of

what can be expected wearing the beads. So, I propose that

> everyone on the list now send in all first-hand data they have

about experiences with rudraksha in a condensed way. This would make

a very significant and succinct addition to the group files. I think

it'd be good to include the vaguer shifts in daily experience, the

very exact experiences like "my stomach ulcer has been healed" or "my

income increased by 30% within 3 months of beginning wearing them",

and the no-change experiences to give a really complete picture of

what people are experiencing. This data would be best submitted with

an exact description of what mukhis were being used. For instance, a

submission like:

>

> rudrakshas worn: 1 1-face, 1-9face, 3 11-face

> experience: deepened and lenghtened meditations by estimated 50%

> time frame: this happened after 2 weeks and has continued ever since

> astrological predictions for this time frame (if known): my

astrologer was suprised that this happened as I am not supposed to be

in a time period of significant spiritual growth **this last factor

is a bit of a pipe dream, but it would truly help us clarify the role

of the beads in mitigating karma**

>

> I think it would be fabulous if Rudra-Centre asked all purchasers

to consider taking part in a Rudraksh Bead Societies Club study to

monitor their effects. I think a similar study for use of gemstones

would be equally as helpful, perhaps more, as much more money is

spent globally on gemstones than rudraksha.

>

> Before sending the responses I request, I suggest that we all wait

until the group and group moderator responds to what I suggest so

that hopefully a well-thought out "response form" is created to

streamline and facilitate an effective response. I would be happy to

help with any of these efforts if Kanti needs help cataloging

responses, etc.

>

> Your thoughts?

>

> Sincerely,

> elizabeth

>

>

>

>

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, "ShiningLotus"

 

Actually.. my stomach ulcer HAS healed-- and I'd had it since infancy.

 

I sent three or four e-mails to Neeta re: my experiences.

 

 

 

<shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> Dear Elizabethji

>

> Namaskar My Friend and thanks for your suggestion......would the

testimonials on our website help with reading more about specific

experiences.......if you would like to take on a project like this I

can see that it would produce a lot of good information

>

> Thanks and Take Care My Friend

>

> DharmaDev

>

> shehoss <shehoss99>

>

<>

> Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:21 PM

> RBSC : posting suggestion

>

>

> Dear Members,

>

> In reading about the beads on the Rudraksha Centre website and

reading the posts, it has occurred to me that it would be very helpful

to those new to Rudraksha who are seeking their assistance for

concrete conditions to have everyone post their exact experiences with

the different mukhis. From what reading I've done in the archives,

I've found very very few specific posts about a definite healing. THe

information on the Centre website and in the Rudraksha RAtna books

seems to be largely parroting the scriptures and the claims of what

the beads can do far outweigh the results I've read of. I am not

trying to attack anyone on this, but simply being rational and wanting

to help. (who knows, perhaps the claims in the scriptures were made in

a Yuga when the effects were more precise and rapid to manifest). I

think it would be very helpful to people out there in pain and in

difficult circumstances to know the "reality" of what can be expecte!

d wearing the beads. So, I propose that

> everyone on the list now send in all first-hand data they have about

experiences with rudraksha in a condensed way. This would make a very

significant and succinct addition to the group files. I think it'd be

good to include the vaguer shifts in daily experience, the very exact

experiences like "my stomach ulcer has been healed" or "my income

increased by 30% within 3 months of beginning wearing them", and the

no-change experiences to give a really complete picture of what people

are experiencing. This data would be best submitted with an exact

description of what mukhis were being used. For instance, a

submission like:

>

> rudrakshas worn: 1 1-face, 1-9face, 3 11-face

> experience: deepened and lenghtened meditations by estimated 50%

> time frame: this happened after 2 weeks and has continued ever since

> astrological predictions for this time frame (if known): my

astrologer was suprised that this happened as I am not supposed to be

in a time period of significant spiritual growth **this last factor

is a bit of a pipe dream, but it would truly help us clarify the role

of the beads in mitigating karma**

>

> I think it would be fabulous if Rudra-Centre asked all purchasers to

consider taking part in a Rudraksh Bead Societies Club study to

monitor their effects. I think a similar study for use of gemstones

would be equally as helpful, perhaps more, as much more money is spent

globally on gemstones than rudraksha.

>

> Before sending the responses I request, I suggest that we all wait

until the group and group moderator responds to what I suggest so that

hopefully a well-thought out "response form" is created to streamline

and facilitate an effective response. I would be happy to help with

any of these efforts if Kanti needs help cataloging responses, etc.

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> Your thoughts?

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> Sincerely,

> elizabeth

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THanks Suraj! Will look into the garlic if number 4 fails.

elizabeth

 

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<suraj_raghavan@h...> wrote:

> Dear Elizabeth:

> I thought i'd put in my two cents based on my personal experience.

In

> general, i've had a positive experience since i started wearing

> Rudrakshas. It would be very difficult for me to pinpoint exactly

how

> it has been beneficial or that the rudrakshas specifically had

> anything to do with it and therein lies the problem. In general my

> health has improved and things seem to fall in place more but then

i

> don't know if it's the rudrakshas or it's just the way things were

> meant to be and i would have been fine wearing just plastic beads

but

> it so happens that i started wearing rudrakshas and i've started

> noticing little things. Maybe these little things were happening

all

> the time but i've only now started noticing them. Who knows?

>

> As far as specific health claims, i think it is a bit simplistic

to

> assume that rudrakshas can cure any and all conditions. If it were

> that simple Ayurvedic vaidyas would be doling them out by the

dozens.

> After all they are more readily available than a number of plants

so

> why would anyone go to the trouble of trying to find anything

else. I

> consider myself a serious scholar and student of Ayurveda and have

> yet to come across a reference that specifically recommends

rudraksha

> preparations for various health conditions. That is not to say

that

> it may not exist(Ayurvedic literature is encyclopaedic and i

haven't

> read every book).

> Having said that, i have come across a number of vaidyas who

suggest

> a shita kashaya(cold infusion) of the beads specifically for

lowering

> blood pressure and know a number of folks in the Ayurvedic

community

> who wear them (which is how i got interested in the first place).

> There is a class of preparations called Kshira paka (milk

decoction)

> in Ayurveda and what you are describing falls under that. It might

> interest you to know that lasuna kshira paka (milk decoction of

> garlic) is also recommended for general debility and neurological

> conditions (even though garlic falls under the class of vegetables

in

> Ayurveda that are recommended to be eaten raw). According to the

> scholar N.S. Mooss, the proportions are 2 tolas (approx 21 or 22

> grams) of raw drug, approx 8 oz of milk and 32 oz of water are to

be

> boiled and reduced to 8 oz. (in other words, evaporate the water)

and

> drunk warm. I have used the same preparation with Ashwagandha and

it

> has helped a lot with my "nerves".

> I'm a bit hesitant about testimonials because how can you

> specifically say that the cure/bad luck whatever was because of

the

> rudrakshas. Just my thoughts. Good luck and i hope you get well.

> Suraj

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