Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Namaskar Have anyone here any experience with the people at this particular website? I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder why..? Ole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 What site is that? cindy alstrup wrote: >Namaskar > >Have anyone here any experience with the people at this particular >website? I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder >why..? > >Ole > > > >To send an email to: > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 oops! got it! Cindy Soo wrote: >What site is that? >cindy > >alstrup wrote: > > > >>Namaskar >> >>Have anyone here any experience with the people at this particular >>website? I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder >>why..? >> >>Ole >> >> >> >>To send an email to: >> >> >> >>Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >To send an email to: > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Namaste Oleji, Please scroll below: , "alstrup" <alstrup> wrote: > Namaskar > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this particular > website? ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from Hardwar. I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > why..? ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a humble guess. Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by Oleji? Please share with us, thank you. Om Namah Shivaya, Sy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Dear Sy, Namaskar You mentioned that rudraksha.co.uk is getting beads from Hardwar? Where did you read that? I read their site, they do not sell any as far as they are claiming. They state that they do not sell Rudraksha but recommend other sites. That is why it is strange that their ratings page is not up. I emailed them today and asked why. They also have give some quite strong definite statements about Rudraksha, such as: "The Rudraksha has to be treated right from the moment it is plucked off the tree, otherwise the only purpose it can serve is as a button on your shirt..." "..all beads from an original Rudraksha tree are not genuine and all don't have the same power. In fact only one bead in hundreds has the magic powers that can greatly influence your life." "..each bead must be purified thru' ancient rituals and energised thru' rigorous Homa, which lasts for 41 days, before being securely packed. After purification, no human hands must touch the bead or it gets contaminated." "ALWAYS wear the Rudraksha bead around the neck in a thread or gold or silver. Never wear the Rudraksha in form of bracelet." "NEVER wear the Rudraksha while having sex." "WOMEN must not wear the Rudraksha during their menstrual cycle." "NEVER wear the Rudraksha to a funeral or when visiting a new born baby." "INCORRECT RUDRAKSHA BEADS HAVE KNOWN TO HAVE PROVED FATAL IN EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES" Any comments? Well, maybe I should ask them first..! :-) Ole , "Syzenith" <syzenith> wrote: > Namaste Oleji, > > Please scroll below: > > , "alstrup" > <alstrup> wrote: > > Namaskar > > > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this particular > > website? > > ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from > Hardwar. > > I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > > why..? > > ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a humble > guess. > > Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by Oleji? > Please share with us, thank you. > > Om Namah Shivaya, > Sy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 Namaste Oleji, I did not "say" or make a statemet; I said : "guess".. Also didn't say they *sell*. What I meant was the pics seem to be of beads that *may be* from a source in Hardwar. But the Mother source may still be India and Nepal. For example: I've seen beads worn by swamis in Australia and recognized them to be from a source in Monghyr. These beads also came from different Mother sources in India and Nepal. I'd visisted Patna and other parts of India in 1980 when Mumbai was still called Bombay. No comments about their strong statements about Rudraksha. Please ask them first :-) Om Namah Shivaya, Sy , "alstrup" <alstrup> wrote: > Dear Sy, > > Namaskar > > You mentioned that rudraksha.co.uk is getting beads from Hardwar? > Where did you read that? I read their site, they do not sell any as > far as they are claiming. They state that they do not sell Rudraksha > but recommend other sites. That is why it is strange that their > ratings page is not up. I emailed them today and asked why. They > also have give some quite strong definite statements about > Rudraksha, such as: > > "The Rudraksha has to be treated right from the moment it is plucked > off the tree, otherwise the only purpose it can serve is as a button > on your shirt..." > > "..all beads from an original Rudraksha tree are not genuine and all > don't have the same power. In fact only one bead in hundreds has the > magic powers that can greatly influence your life." > > "..each bead must be purified thru' ancient rituals and energised > thru' rigorous Homa, which lasts for 41 days, before being securely > packed. After purification, no human hands must touch the bead or it > gets contaminated." > > "ALWAYS wear the Rudraksha bead around the neck in a thread or gold > or silver. Never wear the Rudraksha in form of bracelet." > > "NEVER wear the Rudraksha while having sex." > > "WOMEN must not wear the Rudraksha during their menstrual cycle." > > "NEVER wear the Rudraksha to a funeral or when visiting a new born > baby." > > "INCORRECT RUDRAKSHA BEADS HAVE KNOWN TO HAVE PROVED FATAL IN > EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES" > > Any comments? Well, maybe I should ask them first..! :-) > > Ole > > , "Syzenith" > <syzenith> wrote: > > Namaste Oleji, > > > > Please scroll below: > > > > , "alstrup" > > <alstrup> wrote: > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this > particular > > > website? > > > > ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from > > Hardwar. > > > > I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > > > why..? > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a > humble > > guess. > > > > Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by > Oleji? > > Please share with us, thank you. > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Sy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 Dear Sy Namaskar Thank you for the info and clarifications. I cannot find any pics of any beads at the UK site you refer to as coming from Hardwar. Did I misunderstand? The various strong statements on precautions from this particular website about wearing Rudraksha, anyone here knows if they are statements coming from vedic scripture itself or merely claims from these people based on Indian folklore? This informartion about rigorous 41-day Homa for blessing is interesting. In this connection, can anyone give more information about the blessing of Rudraksha beads from Rudra Centre in the temple in Nagpur, not much information on website except pictures. Appreciate all input from people here. I heard from Ms. Neetha again and received additional recommendation, possibly adding 14 or 16 Mukhi to order of my mala next month. Incidentally, when Rudraksha are attached to silver spacer, can they easily be unhooked from each other, so as to try mala with different bead combinations for energetic comparisons? Thank you very much, Love, Ole , "Syzenith" <syzenith> wrote: > Namaste Oleji, > > I did not "say" or make a statemet; I said : "guess".. Also didn't > say they *sell*. What I meant was the pics seem to be of beads that > *may be* from a source in Hardwar. But the Mother source may still be > India and Nepal. For example: I've seen beads worn by swamis in > Australia and recognized them to be from a source in Monghyr. These > beads also came from different Mother sources in India and Nepal. > I'd visisted Patna and other parts of India in 1980 when Mumbai was > still called Bombay. > > No comments about their strong statements about Rudraksha. Please > ask them first :-) > > Om Namah Shivaya, > Sy > > , "alstrup" > <alstrup> wrote: > > Dear Sy, > > > > Namaskar > > > > You mentioned that rudraksha.co.uk is getting beads from Hardwar? > > Where did you read that? I read their site, they do not sell any as > > far as they are claiming. They state that they do not sell > Rudraksha > > but recommend other sites. That is why it is strange that their > > ratings page is not up. I emailed them today and asked why. They > > also have give some quite strong definite statements about > > Rudraksha, such as: > > > > "The Rudraksha has to be treated right from the moment it is > plucked > > off the tree, otherwise the only purpose it can serve is as a > button > > on your shirt..." > > > > "..all beads from an original Rudraksha tree are not genuine and > all > > don't have the same power. In fact only one bead in hundreds has > the > > magic powers that can greatly influence your life." > > > > "..each bead must be purified thru' ancient rituals and energised > > thru' rigorous Homa, which lasts for 41 days, before being securely > > packed. After purification, no human hands must touch the bead or > it > > gets contaminated." > > > > "ALWAYS wear the Rudraksha bead around the neck in a thread or gold > > or silver. Never wear the Rudraksha in form of bracelet." > > > > "NEVER wear the Rudraksha while having sex." > > > > "WOMEN must not wear the Rudraksha during their menstrual cycle." > > > > "NEVER wear the Rudraksha to a funeral or when visiting a new born > > baby." > > > > "INCORRECT RUDRAKSHA BEADS HAVE KNOWN TO HAVE PROVED FATAL IN > > EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES" > > > > Any comments? Well, maybe I should ask them first..! :-) > > > > Ole > > > > , "Syzenith" > > <syzenith> wrote: > > > Namaste Oleji, > > > > > > Please scroll below: > > > > > > , "alstrup" > > > <alstrup> wrote: > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this > > particular > > > > website? > > > > > > ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from > > > Hardwar. > > > > > > I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > > > > why..? > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a > > humble > > > guess. > > > > > > Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by > > Oleji? > > > Please share with us, thank you. > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > Sy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 Dear Oleji Namaskar My Friend....back from trip and found your message here.....about a year ago we found thiss website is a front for AstrologyMantra.com in UK and working with another company here in the US....AstrologyMantra.com is the one that charges $100 per bead and claims to have better Blessings and Beads than anyone else......the reason they do not have their rateings page up on the website mentioned is because in 2002 Hanuman Limited in the US made up a list..... of most all the international dealers...... and said we were all selling fake beads.....This was protested by Rudra Centre India and one other international company and then Rudra Center America threatened them with a legal action and they complied with our request to desist in their illegal action and they removed the page from their site Thanks and Take Care Rudra Centre America DharmaDev Arya alstrup <alstrup <> Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:45 PM RBSC : Re: http://www.rudraksha.co.uk Dear Sy, Namaskar You mentioned that rudraksha.co.uk is getting beads from Hardwar? Where did you read that? I read their site, they do not sell any as far as they are claiming. They state that they do not sell Rudraksha but recommend other sites. That is why it is strange that their ratings page is not up. I emailed them today and asked why. They also have give some quite strong definite statements about Rudraksha, such as: "The Rudraksha has to be treated right from the moment it is plucked off the tree, otherwise the only purpose it can serve is as a button on your shirt..." "..all beads from an original Rudraksha tree are not genuine and all don't have the same power. In fact only one bead in hundreds has the magic powers that can greatly influence your life." "..each bead must be purified thru' ancient rituals and energised thru' rigorous Homa, which lasts for 41 days, before being securely packed. After purification, no human hands must touch the bead or it gets contaminated." "ALWAYS wear the Rudraksha bead around the neck in a thread or gold or silver. Never wear the Rudraksha in form of bracelet." "NEVER wear the Rudraksha while having sex." "WOMEN must not wear the Rudraksha during their menstrual cycle." "NEVER wear the Rudraksha to a funeral or when visiting a new born baby." "INCORRECT RUDRAKSHA BEADS HAVE KNOWN TO HAVE PROVED FATAL IN EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES" Any comments? Well, maybe I should ask them first..! :-) Ole , "Syzenith" <syzenith> wrote: > Namaste Oleji, > > Please scroll below: > > , "alstrup" > <alstrup> wrote: > > Namaskar > > > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this particular > > website? > > ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from > Hardwar. > > I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > > why..? > > ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a humble > guess. > > Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by Oleji? > Please share with us, thank you. > > Om Namah Shivaya, > Sy To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Dear DharmaDev Aryaji, Pranams Thank you very much for this information. I had all along strong intuitive feelings about this website that something was not quite right, especially when these central pages were not available to back up their claims, I was actually speculating they might even have encountered some legal problems, but now I know these details from you. That is very helpful. Thank you very much for that. I was hoping you may have some comments about my latest postings... Thank you, Love, Ole , "ShiningLotus" <shininglotus@c...> wrote: > Dear Oleji > > Namaskar My Friend....back from trip and found your message here.....about a year ago we found thiss website is a front for AstrologyMantra.com in UK and working with another company here in the US....AstrologyMantra.com is the one that charges $100 per bead and claims to have better Blessings and Beads than anyone else......the reason they do not have their rateings page up on the website mentioned is because in 2002 Hanuman Limited in the US made up a list..... of most all the international dealers...... and said we were all selling fake beads.....This was protested by Rudra Centre India and one other international company and then Rudra Center America threatened them with a legal action and they complied with our request to desist in their illegal action and they removed the page from their site > > Thanks and Take Care > > Rudra Centre America > > DharmaDev Arya > > alstrup <alstrup> > <> > Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:45 PM > RBSC : Re: http://www.rudraksha.co.uk > > > Dear Sy, > > Namaskar > > You mentioned that rudraksha.co.uk is getting beads from Hardwar? > Where did you read that? I read their site, they do not sell any as > far as they are claiming. They state that they do not sell Rudraksha > but recommend other sites. That is why it is strange that their > ratings page is not up. I emailed them today and asked why. They > also have give some quite strong definite statements about > Rudraksha, such as: > > "The Rudraksha has to be treated right from the moment it is plucked > off the tree, otherwise the only purpose it can serve is as a button > on your shirt..." > > "..all beads from an original Rudraksha tree are not genuine and all > don't have the same power. In fact only one bead in hundreds has the > magic powers that can greatly influence your life." > > "..each bead must be purified thru' ancient rituals and energised > thru' rigorous Homa, which lasts for 41 days, before being securely > packed. After purification, no human hands must touch the bead or it > gets contaminated." > > "ALWAYS wear the Rudraksha bead around the neck in a thread or gold > or silver. Never wear the Rudraksha in form of bracelet." > > "NEVER wear the Rudraksha while having sex." > > "WOMEN must not wear the Rudraksha during their menstrual cycle." > > "NEVER wear the Rudraksha to a funeral or when visiting a new born > baby." > > "INCORRECT RUDRAKSHA BEADS HAVE KNOWN TO HAVE PROVED FATAL IN > EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES" > > Any comments? Well, maybe I should ask them first..! :-) > > Ole > > > > > > , "Syzenith" > <syzenith> wrote: > > Namaste Oleji, > > > > Please scroll below: > > > > , "alstrup" > > <alstrup> wrote: > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this > particular > > > website? > > > > ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from > > Hardwar. > > > > I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > > > why..? > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a > humble > > guess. > > > > Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by > Oleji? > > Please share with us, thank you. > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Sy > > > Sponsor > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 I read somewhere that they got in trouble, and had to take down their ratings page. Some sellers apparently accused them of posting skewed ratings, for their own commercial ends. Kari , "alstrup" <alstrup> wrote: > Namaskar > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this particular > website? I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > why..? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Hi all, I saw this site quite some time ago and sent them an email but never heard from them subsequently. I had posted on this board sometime ago asking if time of birth is important for recomenndations. According to the replies I had received, I was told it is not. However, some jyotishes I have spoken to have told me that astrological details are very important. The site above also makes very strong suggestions to the same. It even goes further in saying that a wrong rudraksha recommendation can be disastrous. If you look at the membership credentials of this site, it is very impressive, but as Ole pointed out, the links do not work. Regards, Rajiv Syzenith <syzenith wrote: Namaste Oleji, Please scroll below: , "alstrup" <alstrup> wrote: > Namaskar > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this particular > website? ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from Hardwar. I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > why..? ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a humble guess. Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by Oleji? Please share with us, thank you. Om Namah Shivaya, Sy To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Dear Oleji Namaskar and Thank you for your message My Friend......Yes I have read some of your messages when I returned from trip and then I started to read the replies given from Dearest Friend Syji in Australia...... am totally in agreeance with everything she has said.....She and I are so close in the Bliss of Consciousness........... that she is able to answer for me at any time........ on any subject.....am constantly amazed by the Knowledge in her messages......We have found that all the Directors of established Rudra Centers work in this manner with each other........... and we all look forward to supporting you by provideing new choices for Self Empowerment as we find them in the Veda Thank you again for your reply My Friend.....if I can help with anything else please let me know Wishing you and Family the Best of Dharma Artha Kama Moksa DharmaDev Arya alstrup <alstrup <> Monday, August 18, 2003 2:32 AM RBSC : Re: http://www.rudraksha.co.uk Dear DharmaDev Aryaji, Pranams Thank you very much for this information. I had all along strong intuitive feelings about this website that something was not quite right, especially when these central pages were not available to back up their claims, I was actually speculating they might even have encountered some legal problems, but now I know these details from you. That is very helpful. Thank you very much for that. I was hoping you may have some comments about my latest postings... Thank you, Love, Ole , "ShiningLotus" <shininglotus@c...> wrote: > Dear Oleji > > Namaskar My Friend....back from trip and found your message here.....about a year ago we found thiss website is a front for AstrologyMantra.com in UK and working with another company here in the US....AstrologyMantra.com is the one that charges $100 per bead and claims to have better Blessings and Beads than anyone else......the reason they do not have their rateings page up on the website mentioned is because in 2002 Hanuman Limited in the US made up a list..... of most all the international dealers...... and said we were all selling fake beads.....This was protested by Rudra Centre India and one other international company and then Rudra Center America threatened them with a legal action and they complied with our request to desist in their illegal action and they removed the page from their site > > Thanks and Take Care > > Rudra Centre America > > DharmaDev Arya > > alstrup <alstrup> > <> > Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:45 PM > RBSC : Re: http://www.rudraksha.co.uk > > > Dear Sy, > > Namaskar > > You mentioned that rudraksha.co.uk is getting beads from Hardwar? > Where did you read that? I read their site, they do not sell any as > far as they are claiming. They state that they do not sell Rudraksha > but recommend other sites. That is why it is strange that their > ratings page is not up. I emailed them today and asked why. They > also have give some quite strong definite statements about > Rudraksha, such as: > > "The Rudraksha has to be treated right from the moment it is plucked > off the tree, otherwise the only purpose it can serve is as a button > on your shirt..." > > "..all beads from an original Rudraksha tree are not genuine and all > don't have the same power. In fact only one bead in hundreds has the > magic powers that can greatly influence your life." > > "..each bead must be purified thru' ancient rituals and energised > thru' rigorous Homa, which lasts for 41 days, before being securely > packed. After purification, no human hands must touch the bead or it > gets contaminated." > > "ALWAYS wear the Rudraksha bead around the neck in a thread or gold > or silver. Never wear the Rudraksha in form of bracelet." > > "NEVER wear the Rudraksha while having sex." > > "WOMEN must not wear the Rudraksha during their menstrual cycle." > > "NEVER wear the Rudraksha to a funeral or when visiting a new born > baby." > > "INCORRECT RUDRAKSHA BEADS HAVE KNOWN TO HAVE PROVED FATAL IN > EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES" > > Any comments? Well, maybe I should ask them first..! :-) > > Ole > > > > > > , "Syzenith" > <syzenith> wrote: > > Namaste Oleji, > > > > Please scroll below: > > > > , "alstrup" > > <alstrup> wrote: > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this > particular > > > website? > > > > ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from > > Hardwar. > > > > I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > > > why..? > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a > humble > > guess. > > > > Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by > Oleji? > > Please share with us, thank you. > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Sy > > > Sponsor > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > Sponsor To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 This just from personal experience. I initially started to wear rudraksham for astrological reasons. I was told I was about to have a fairly disasterous Rahu Mahadasa by several jyotishis. I was then advised that, unlike gem therepy, one cannot wear a "wrong" rudraksha. That is, rudrahsham can enhance the effects of benefic planets, and also pacify malefic planets. They cannot exacerbate the effects of malefic planets. I now wear all of the beads from 1-13, some in multiples, every day. The disasters predicted for the Rahu period did not happen. I also don't worry about astrology, anymore. I found that BEFORE I wore the beads, my Vedic horoscope was quite accurate. AFTER I wore the beads for a period of time, it was not. I think the beads are breaking up karmic patterns, rendering astrolgy superfluous. In summary, I think that wearing the beads will take one "past" the limitations of astrology, and connect one with limitlessness. I don't think that wearing them can cause any harm. I have only benefitted from them, myself. Kari , Pukka Punjabi <pukkapunjabi> wrote: > Hi all, > > I saw this site quite some time ago and sent them an email but never heard from them subsequently. > > I had posted on this board sometime ago asking if time of birth is important for recomenndations. According to the replies I had received, I was told it is not. However, some jyotishes I have spoken to have told me that astrological details are very important. The site above also makes very strong suggestions to the same. It even goes further in saying that a wrong rudraksha recommendation can be disastrous. > > If you look at the membership credentials of this site, it is very impressive, but as Ole pointed out, the links do not work. > > Regards, > > Rajiv > > Syzenith <syzenith> wrote: > Namaste Oleji, > > Please scroll below: > > , "alstrup" > <alstrup> wrote: > > Namaskar > > > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this particular > > website? > > ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from > Hardwar. > > I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > > why..? > > ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a humble > guess. > > Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by Oleji? > Please share with us, thank you. > > Om Namah Shivaya, > Sy > > > Sponsor > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 Dear Rajivji Namaskar My Friend and thank you for your message........goodness yes is most important to recommend from knowing correct birth time....both Astrological and Ikshanika recommendations prefer to know at least a persons birth time......there are also other perfect ways to determine correct recommendations for a person however most all of us who recommend would like to know the physical birth time also Yes agree with the need for a perfect balanced recommendation to prevent to many good things happening to a person at one time......meaning if a person gets all they ask for all at once in same 40 day discipline they would not be able to integrate this in their life in a peaceful manner........is like a double edged sword.....for example we dont recommend the 13 Mukhi Lord Indra KamaDeva Rudraksa as a single bead to be worn for the first 40 days because in plain speaking this Rudraksa attracts....EVERYTHING.....the wearer desires Wearing this Holy Rudraksa by itself means a person has to monitor their conscious and subconscious thought and this is a mostly impossible task.......to compensate for the power of this Holy Rudraksa we add the 4 Mukhi Lord Brahma Rudraksa for creative intelligence and Knowledge with the 6 Mukhi Lord Kartikeya Rudraksa that saves from worldly sorrows......the effect of adding these beads in pairs strung mouth part to mouth part with the 13 Mukhi...... on a wearing Mala....... is that a person develops Discrimination in the process of getting all they desire....meaning they have the Discrimination to choose what is best for them and reject that which too much for them at the present moment Balanced Recommendations are most important Thanks and Take Care My Friend DharmaDev Pukka Punjabi <pukkapunjabi <> Monday, August 18, 2003 8:58 AM Re: RBSC : Re: http://www.rudraksha.co.uk Hi all, I saw this site quite some time ago and sent them an email but never heard from them subsequently. I had posted on this board sometime ago asking if time of birth is important for recomenndations. According to the replies I had received, I was told it is not. However, some jyotishes I have spoken to have told me that astrological details are very important. The site above also makes very strong suggestions to the same. It even goes further in saying that a wrong rudraksha recommendation can be disastrous. If you look at the membership credentials of this site, it is very impressive, but as Ole pointed out, the links do not work. Regards, Rajiv Syzenith <syzenith wrote: Namaste Oleji, Please scroll below: , "alstrup" <alstrup> wrote: > Namaskar > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this particular > website? ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from Hardwar. I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > why..? ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a humble guess. Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by Oleji? Please share with us, thank you. Om Namah Shivaya, Sy To send an email to: Sponsor To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 Dear Oleji, Namaskar Able to get here for a few minutes than I'll have to log off; as it is another hit/scan on my Pc from "______ blocked traffic to port 135 on your machine from port 2989 on a remote computer whose IP address is 63.34.235.178. Just a quick reply, pls scroll below: , "alstrup" <alstrup> wrote: > Dear Sy > > Namaskar > > Thank you for the info and clarifications. ^^^^^^^^^^ No need for thanks; the pleasure is much mine. > > I cannot find any pics of any beads at the UK site you refer to as > coming from Hardwar. Did I misunderstand? ^^^^^^^^^ Somewhere down the posts, our wires must've crossed :-) > > The various strong statements on precautions from this particular > website about wearing Rudraksha, anyone here knows if they are > statements coming from vedic scripture itself or merely claims from > these people based on Indian folklore? ^^^^^^^^^^^ Some folklore (from top to middle), some from scriptures around the last several paragraphs. Hard to recall all 4 Vedas, Puranas, Tantras, Samhitas, etc. etc. etc. > > This informartion about rigorous 41-day Homa for blessing is > interesting. In this connection, can anyone give more information > about the blessing of Rudraksha beads from Rudra Centre in the > temple in Nagpur, not much information on website except pictures. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wonder which temple, ashram, guru, swami, sadhu, Naga- baba, Aghori and other holy places and men would perform 41-day ritual every time there is a harvest of beads. There are many paths to God just as there are as many grains of rice on earth. A simple ritual done with pure heart, even by an amateur, would be blessed by the gods who see, hear and know. If one charges those prices, one should perhaps do a 108 day ritual :-) > > Appreciate all input from people here. I heard from Ms. Neetha again > and received additional recommendation, possibly adding 14 or 16 > Mukhi to order of my mala next month. Incidentally, when Rudraksha > are attached to silver spacer, can they easily be unhooked from each > other, so as to try mala with different bead combinations for > energetic comparisons? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Glad to know you heard from Miss Neeta and the answer to your question about bead combinations: is "Yes". > Om Namah Shivaya, Sy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 Salutations Shri DharmaDev Arya, I'm glad you are back in action! And answered this question! Thank you. Om Namah Shivaya, Sy , "ShiningLotus" <shininglotus@c...> wrote: > Dear Oleji > > Namaskar My Friend....back from trip and found your message here.....about a year ago we found thiss website is a front for AstrologyMantra.com in UK and working with another company here in the US....AstrologyMantra.com is the one that charges $100 per bead and claims to have better Blessings and Beads than anyone else......the reason they do not have their rateings page up on the website mentioned is because in 2002 Hanuman Limited in the US made up a list..... of most all the international dealers...... and said we were all selling fake beads.....This was protested by Rudra Centre India and one other international company and then Rudra Center America threatened them with a legal action and they complied with our request to desist in their illegal action and they removed the page from their site > > Thanks and Take Care > > Rudra Centre America > > DharmaDev Arya > > alstrup <alstrup> > <> > Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:45 PM > RBSC : Re: http://www.rudraksha.co.uk > > > Dear Sy, > > Namaskar > > You mentioned that rudraksha.co.uk is getting beads from Hardwar? > Where did you read that? I read their site, they do not sell any as > far as they are claiming. They state that they do not sell Rudraksha > but recommend other sites. That is why it is strange that their > ratings page is not up. I emailed them today and asked why. They > also have give some quite strong definite statements about > Rudraksha, such as: > > "The Rudraksha has to be treated right from the moment it is plucked > off the tree, otherwise the only purpose it can serve is as a button > on your shirt..." > > "..all beads from an original Rudraksha tree are not genuine and all > don't have the same power. In fact only one bead in hundreds has the > magic powers that can greatly influence your life." > > "..each bead must be purified thru' ancient rituals and energised > thru' rigorous Homa, which lasts for 41 days, before being securely > packed. After purification, no human hands must touch the bead or it > gets contaminated." > > "ALWAYS wear the Rudraksha bead around the neck in a thread or gold > or silver. Never wear the Rudraksha in form of bracelet." > > "NEVER wear the Rudraksha while having sex." > > "WOMEN must not wear the Rudraksha during their menstrual cycle." > > "NEVER wear the Rudraksha to a funeral or when visiting a new born > baby." > > "INCORRECT RUDRAKSHA BEADS HAVE KNOWN TO HAVE PROVED FATAL IN > EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES" > > Any comments? Well, maybe I should ask them first..! :-) > > Ole > > > > > > , "Syzenith" > <syzenith> wrote: > > Namaste Oleji, > > > > Please scroll below: > > > > , "alstrup" > > <alstrup> wrote: > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this > particular > > > website? > > > > ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from > > Hardwar. > > > > I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > > > why..? > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a > humble > > guess. > > > > Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by > Oleji? > > Please share with us, thank you. > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Sy > > > Sponsor > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 Dear DharmaDev Aryaji, Namaskar Thank you for your comments and blessings. Love, Ole , "ShiningLotus" <shininglotus@c...> wrote: > Dear Oleji > > Namaskar and Thank you for your message My Friend......Yes I have read some of your messages when I returned from trip and then I started to read the replies given from Dearest Friend Syji in Australia...... am totally in agreeance with everything she has said.....She and I are so close in the Bliss of Consciousness........... that she is able to answer for me at any time........ on any subject.....am constantly amazed by the Knowledge in her messages......We have found that all the Directors of established Rudra Centers work in this manner with each other........... and we all look forward to supporting you by provideing new choices for Self Empowerment as we find them in the Veda > > Thank you again for your reply My Friend.....if I can help with anything else please let me know > > Wishing you and Family the Best of Dharma Artha Kama Moksa > > DharmaDev Arya > > > alstrup <alstrup> > <> > Monday, August 18, 2003 2:32 AM > RBSC : Re: http://www.rudraksha.co.uk > > > Dear DharmaDev Aryaji, > > Pranams > > Thank you very much for this information. I had all along strong > intuitive feelings about this website that something was not quite > right, especially when these central pages were not available to > back up their claims, I was actually speculating they might even > have encountered some legal problems, but now I know these details > from you. That is very helpful. Thank you very much for that. > I was hoping you may have some comments about my latest postings... > > Thank you, > > Love, Ole > > , "ShiningLotus" > <shininglotus@c...> wrote: > > Dear Oleji > > > > Namaskar My Friend....back from trip and found your message > here.....about a year ago we found thiss website is a front for > AstrologyMantra.com in UK and working with another company here in > the US....AstrologyMantra.com is the one that charges $100 per bead > and claims to have better Blessings and Beads than anyone > else......the reason they do not have their rateings page up on the > website mentioned is because in 2002 Hanuman Limited in the US made > up a list..... of most all the international dealers...... and said > we were all selling fake beads.....This was protested by Rudra > Centre India and one other international company and then Rudra > Center America threatened them with a legal action and they complied > with our request to desist in their illegal action and they removed > the page from their site > > > > Thanks and Take Care > > > > Rudra Centre America > > > > DharmaDev Arya > > > > alstrup <alstrup> > > > <> > > Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:45 PM > > RBSC : Re: http://www.rudraksha.co.uk > > > > > > Dear Sy, > > > > Namaskar > > > > You mentioned that rudraksha.co.uk is getting beads from Hardwar? > > Where did you read that? I read their site, they do not sell any > as > > far as they are claiming. They state that they do not sell > Rudraksha > > but recommend other sites. That is why it is strange that their > > ratings page is not up. I emailed them today and asked why. They > > also have give some quite strong definite statements about > > Rudraksha, such as: > > > > "The Rudraksha has to be treated right from the moment it is > plucked > > off the tree, otherwise the only purpose it can serve is as a > button > > on your shirt..." > > > > "..all beads from an original Rudraksha tree are not genuine and > all > > don't have the same power. In fact only one bead in hundreds has > the > > magic powers that can greatly influence your life." > > > > "..each bead must be purified thru' ancient rituals and energised > > thru' rigorous Homa, which lasts for 41 days, before being > securely > > packed. After purification, no human hands must touch the bead or > it > > gets contaminated." > > > > "ALWAYS wear the Rudraksha bead around the neck in a thread or > gold > > or silver. Never wear the Rudraksha in form of bracelet." > > > > "NEVER wear the Rudraksha while having sex." > > > > "WOMEN must not wear the Rudraksha during their menstrual cycle." > > > > "NEVER wear the Rudraksha to a funeral or when visiting a new born > > baby." > > > > "INCORRECT RUDRAKSHA BEADS HAVE KNOWN TO HAVE PROVED FATAL IN > > EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES" > > > > Any comments? Well, maybe I should ask them first..! :-) > > > > Ole > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Syzenith" > > <syzenith> wrote: > > > Namaste Oleji, > > > > > > Please scroll below: > > > > > > , "alstrup" > > > <alstrup> wrote: > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this > > particular > > > > website? > > > > > > ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from > > > Hardwar. > > > > > > I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > > > > why..? > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a > > humble > > > guess. > > > > > > Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by > > Oleji? > > > Please share with us, thank you. > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > Sy > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 Dear Kari, Thank you very much for sharing your personal experience and insights on this, it is most encouraging to me to read this as I am order my mala from Rudra Centre around the 1st September, with the hopes of somehow being able to deserve some Divine Blessings through Mercy of Rudraksha to become purified and attain strength in the road ahead of my life. Thanks, Love, Ole , "karisprowl" <karisprowl@e...> wrote: > This just from personal experience. I initially started to wear > rudraksham for astrological reasons. I was told I was about to have a > fairly disasterous Rahu Mahadasa by several jyotishis. > > I was then advised that, unlike gem therepy, one cannot wear > a "wrong" rudraksha. That is, rudrahsham can enhance the effects of > benefic planets, and also pacify malefic planets. They cannot > exacerbate the effects of malefic planets. > > I now wear all of the beads from 1-13, some in multiples, every day. > The disasters predicted for the Rahu period did not happen. I also > don't worry about astrology, anymore. > > I found that BEFORE I wore the beads, my Vedic horoscope was quite > accurate. AFTER I wore the beads for a period of time, it was not. I > think the beads are breaking up karmic patterns, rendering astrolgy > superfluous. > > In summary, I think that wearing the beads will take one "past" the > limitations of astrology, and connect one with limitlessness. I don't > think that wearing them can cause any harm. I have only benefitted > from them, myself. > > Kari > > > , Pukka Punjabi > <pukkapunjabi> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I saw this site quite some time ago and sent them an email but > never heard from them subsequently. > > > > I had posted on this board sometime ago asking if time of birth is > important for recomenndations. According to the replies I had > received, I was told it is not. However, some jyotishes I have spoken > to have told me that astrological details are very important. The > site above also makes very strong suggestions to the same. It even > goes further in saying that a wrong rudraksha recommendation can be > disastrous. > > > > If you look at the membership credentials of this site, it is very > impressive, but as Ole pointed out, the links do not work. > > > > Regards, > > > > Rajiv > > > > Syzenith <syzenith> wrote: > > Namaste Oleji, > > > > Please scroll below: > > > > , "alstrup" > > <alstrup> wrote: > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Have anyone here any experience with the people at this > particular > > > website? > > > > ^^^^^^^ Sy: Not me at least. I think their stuff *may* be from > > Hardwar. > > > > I noticed their ratings and links pages are not up, wonder > > > why..? > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ Sy: They are probably still working on it. Just a > humble > > guess. > > > > Note: Anyone here has experience with the site mentioned by > Oleji? > > Please share with us, thank you. > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Sy > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 Dear Syji, Thank you for the extra information, much obliged... Hare Krishna, Ole , "Syzenith" <syzenith> wrote: > Dear Oleji, > > Namaskar > > Able to get here for a few minutes than I'll have to log off; as it > is another hit/scan on my Pc from "______ blocked traffic to port > 135 on your machine from port 2989 on a remote computer whose IP > address is 63.34.235.178. > > Just a quick reply, pls scroll below: > > > , "alstrup" > <alstrup> wrote: > > Dear Sy > > > > Namaskar > > > > Thank you for the info and clarifications. > ^^^^^^^^^^ No need for thanks; the pleasure is much mine. > > > > I cannot find any pics of any beads at the UK site you refer to as > > coming from Hardwar. Did I misunderstand? > ^^^^^^^^^ Somewhere down the posts, our wires must've crossed :-) > > > > The various strong statements on precautions from this particular > > website about wearing Rudraksha, anyone here knows if they are > > statements coming from vedic scripture itself or merely claims from > > these people based on Indian folklore? > ^^^^^^^^^^^ Some folklore (from top to middle), some from scriptures > around the last several paragraphs. Hard to recall all 4 Vedas, > Puranas, Tantras, Samhitas, etc. etc. etc. > > > > This informartion about rigorous 41-day Homa for blessing is > > interesting. In this connection, can anyone give more information > > about the blessing of Rudraksha beads from Rudra Centre in the > > temple in Nagpur, not much information on website except pictures. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wonder which temple, ashram, guru, swami, sadhu, Naga- > baba, Aghori and other holy places and men would perform 41-day > ritual every time there is a harvest of beads. There are many paths > to God just as there are as many grains of rice on earth. A simple > ritual done with pure heart, even by an amateur, would be blessed by > the gods who see, hear and know. If one charges those prices, one > should perhaps do a 108 day ritual :-) > > > > Appreciate all input from people here. I heard from Ms. Neetha > again > > and received additional recommendation, possibly adding 14 or 16 > > Mukhi to order of my mala next month. Incidentally, when Rudraksha > > are attached to silver spacer, can they easily be unhooked from > each > > other, so as to try mala with different bead combinations for > > energetic comparisons? > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Glad to know you heard from Miss Neeta and the answer > to your question about bead combinations: is "Yes". > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > Sy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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