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Dear All,

Here are the answers from Dr. Ramesh to my follow-up questions. His answers are

below in red. I would appreciate any comments, especially from you, Arjuna. I

still dont get some of the points from Dr. Ramesh about what actually happens,

it is IMHO not very clear and sometimes confusing to me what he actually means

when he is explaining these things. I cannot say I am convinced at this point. I

guess the next natural step is to obtain my siddh mala and "compare" it with the

tachyonized bead pendant sent from my friend. In any case, Shiva knows the Truth

and what is meant to happen!

 

Love, Ole

 

 

 

Dear Ole,

 

I have given you the answers. We really enjoyed writing to you and at the same

time entering your psyche. Its a pleasure to communicate with you.

 

GOD Bless and Love,

Ramesh

Ps Attend one of my classes, you and I can create lots of joy.

-

Ole Alstrup

skramesh

Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:00 AM

RE: RE: RE: Rudraksha

 

 

Dear Dr. Ramesh!

 

Thank you so much for these answers! This is very exciting to be able to know

more about this. I have some follow-up questions/comments to your answers to

clarify certain points. I would be very grateful if you would consider to

comment/answer these, if you have the time. I have put them below in blue text

after your answers. See below. Thank you very much.

Love, Ole

 

PS. My source of knowledge on Rudraksha comes primarily from Rudra Centre at

www.rudraksha-ratna.com.

 

Dear Ole,

 

The answers are below each question.

 

> 1. When did you learn of Rudraksha and its medical/energetic/spiritual

> effects?

>

Since Childhood

 

> 2. What kind of personal experience and research have you done on the

> effects of Rudraksha?

>

It is an excellent stress reliever. Due to the constituents it was decided to

Tachyonize, to potentiate the effects.

 

 

How did you know beforehand that it would potentiate the effects, was it nott a

question of first doing research to find out exactly how the tachyonization

would affect the Rudraksha? What kind of research did you do to verify these

effects?

 

How can you do scientific examination without tachyonizing and then

experiencing. I know what Tachyonization does to any material, ie why I decided

to go for it. Any material is brought to its full potential if it is pure

without blocks. And thats what Tachyonization does.

 

> 3. What is your own view of the causative factor responsible for the

> healing effects of Rudraksha?

>

It has its own constituen ts which have thier frequencies. If a certain

frequency is useful to us, then it would help. Sometimes the frequencies of the

rudhraksh may not suit an individual. Then the individual feels restless and

sick and rejects it. It is just like gem-therapy.

 

So you view the effects of Rudraksha to be limited only to frequency effects

based on research into different electrical and magnetic properties?

 

Every material and design has a frequency. If a certain type of rudhraksha has

an effect, by Tachyonizing we bring that frequency effect to its full potential

and by way of becoming an antenna the body decides what to take from existance.

 

 

> 4. How did you come up with the idea to Tachyonize Rudraksha beads?

>

When we knew the effects of the rudhraksha based on the facets, although they

have similar constituents, each facet had a different potential. The

significance why each facet had a different potential was based on symbols.

 

I dont follow - can you be more specific what you mean by symbols?

 

Symbols means shapes, alphabets etc.

 

The rarity of the single facet made it very expensive to obtain. The

multi-faceted one which was easily available was cheaper, thus I came up on the

idea to Tachyonize and seek all the potentials of the different facets as

documented.

 

 

According to the reliable Rudraksha suppliers in India ; One Mukhi Rudraksa is

found in two shapes round and the half moon shape. Round Rudraksa is highly

praised but it is very rare and more of a myth . One mukhi Half moon is easily

available and found in a family tree of Rudraksha from India and Srilanka.

 

If it is one mukhi, then Tachyonization will bring all the charecteristics of

one mukhi to its full potential and at the same time become an antenna.

 

> 5. What happens to a Rudraksha bead when it is Tachyonized?

>

The rudhraksha bead when tachyonized becomes an antenna and then lets the bo dy

sources whatever it needs for its balance and at the same time use the useful

effects of its frequency.

Do you here refer to the word balance as coming from the supplied tachyon

energy only, since the frequency spectrum has not changed? Or has something

changed?

 

 

> 6. How is a Tachyonized Rudraksha bead used?

>

It can be used as an antenna like a pendant, ear-top, wrist bands, rings,

wherver it is needed, based on different energetic systems of treatment. eg.

Accupressure, Reflexology etc etc. Easiest is to wear it as a pendant and its

amazing what happens to any age group.

 

 

What usually happens to people wearing it?

 

It is something only to be experienced. In short an integration, oneness and

conectedness happens.

 

 

> 7. What is the difference between a normal Rudraksha and a Tachyonized

> Rudraksha bead?

 

A normal rudhraksha only imparts its frequency, potential and its facet

potential. However when Tachyonized it becomes an antenna to see all the

potentials needed for the individuals balance. The chances of rejection are

almost nil because now the body decides what to take, when to take and when to

stop, unlike the normal rudhraksh deciding what effect it should create.

As far as I understand what you are saying here; through tachyonization, the

bead gains an intelligence(?) it did not have prior to tachyonization, which now

enables it to "see" and send out a mixture of frequencies; 1. it did not possess

before, 2. matching the need of the SOEFs of the person wearing it?

 

I don't think so! It only becomes an antenna, a medium to source all the

potentials which a deficient person wants.

 

> Note: I have been informed that when a particular Mukhi Rudraksha bead

> is Tachyonized, usually a

> 5- or 6-mukhi, the Tachyonization process will make that

> particular bead

> take on the

> energetic characteristics of all the different Rudraksha mukhis.

> If so,

> how does this happen?

> In other words, how does the tachyonization alter the energetic

> effectsof a particular mukhi and make it

> contain all the potencies of all the various mukhis? If so, how

> did you

> discover and verify this?

>

 

> 8. What is your source of Rudraksha beads for tachyonization? (source

> quality)

 

 

>From India and Nepal

 

Can you disclose the source of your supplier(s)?

 

What matters is the result not the why, the where, the how.

 

>

> 9. Where can people order the Tachyonized Rudraksha and what is the

> price for each bead?

>

The pendant can be ordered from

ATT ME INC

Tel: 06 5570458, Fax: 06 5570419,

Email: attme

 

Cost: USD 50.00

 

 

> 10. How many Tachyonized beads is necessary to wear for optimal

> effect?

Just one single pendant.

 

The bead is sold as a pendant in a string?

 

ATT ME INC sell single bead pendants.

 

 

> 11. Can all people wear a Tachyonized Rudraksha bead or can it

> create a "detox" in the neurophysiology similar

> to that of wearing a siddha Rudraksha mala?

>

When one bead helps, why do you need a mala?

 

So any tachyonized bead regardless of its facet number will have the same

effect as a mala combination of all facets which are not tachyonized, actually

beyond,

 

Yes

 

since you regard natural beads as frequency devices without intelligence?

 

I regard them as a matter with frequencies and their own intelligence and

conciousness.

 

Is it true that you yourself wear a powerful necklace mala of different

Rudraksha mukhis which are not tachyonized?

 

I don't know where you got this information from. I don't need one, may have

used it to demonstrate to people, well, sometimes if I am out of balance I use

it.

 

Just to state we have worn a 108 bead(1cm each) Tachyonized Rudhraksh Mala, the

effect is amazing and total connection happens. All those who wore had a similar

experience. Some have worn it for 3 - 4 days and have remained in balance.

 

 

Is this 108 bead mala you mention comprised of a single kind of bead facet

(which) or a combination of beads with different facets? (which) So there

actually IS an increased effect when more tachyonized beads are worn - what do

you mean by total connection here - verticality? Can a tachyonized bead/necklace

of beads verticalize the chakra system? Or does this effect go beyond

verticality?

 

Our body decides what effect it needs not the mala.

 

 

 

> Thanks.

>

> Love, Ole

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear members,

 

Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

properties of both.

 

Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

energises it.

 

Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

to give it additional properties.

 

Any comments.

 

With Warm Regards,

Satish

 

 

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Can you multiply Shiva by Shiva? One is one, that's it!

-

kumar satish

Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:09 PM

Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

 

 

Dear members,

 

Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

properties of both.

 

Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

energises it.

 

Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

to give it additional properties.

 

Any comments.

 

With Warm Regards,

Satish

 

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Shiva can multiply Himself directly through Himself or indirectly

through Himself in all directions, he has no material limitations.

I will send feedback here about my future comparative experiences

with the tachyonized rudraksha and Siddh Mala.

 

Love, Ole

, "Kirk"

<kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote:

> Can you multiply Shiva by Shiva? One is one, that's it!

> -

> kumar satish

>

> Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:09 PM

> Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

>

>

> Dear members,

>

> Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

> site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

> I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

> crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

> tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

> properties of both.

>

> Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

> rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

> energises it.

>

> Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

> to give it additional properties.

>

> Any comments.

>

> With Warm Regards,

> Satish

>

>

> Plus - For a better Internet experience

> http://uk.promotions./yplus/yoffer.html

>

> Sponsor

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>

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>

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That's good because remember the pyramid is merely a cross squared, and leading

to one. Any point of stasis or equilibrium of the elements equals oneness,

sameness, or the basic emptiness of the clear light mind itself. Therefore, all

the rest is merely some form, or in other words - maya. The unmanifest will

always remain unmanifest. End of story. So again, how do you multiply one by

itself? There is only one answer, and it is silence. Shiva presents the linga

to point the direction to the oneness of the basic fabric of existance. You can

place a tachyon and stack it on top of a quark brimming over with zero point

vacuum state fluctuations and wrap it all up and fold it into a pyramid and hang

that as a pendant on a mala of 15,000,000,000 rudraksha, and what will you get?

You tell me. I'll tell you, you will get this world. What do you really want?

Don't be upset with me. Why are you here? Are we just some sort of freakish

experiment to you? I'll tell you what I want. I want to be excelent at

something, anything so that I can plant a stone marker and say I was here, you

know do something really worthwhile. This is why the Olympics still makes me

cry every time NBC hypes the story of the atheletes - because they are out front

making excellence a reality in spite of all adversity, while I, basically a

loser, am doing nothing worthwhile. Sure a few people thank me for some things

but it's nothing like getting the gold at something. I always wanted to be a

hero. And I want freedom from pain, because every time I get rid of one pain

another one pops up. I'm not sure rudraksha has much to do with my desires. I

just wear them. I wouldn't know how to test their efficacousness. (sp?) Please

keep us up to date. But how and by what standard will you separate the tachyon

thing from the beads? I said I wanted the gold, well, rudraksha are the gold

really arent they? They are about as esoteric as anything anyone could ever

want, and they show that one has exhausted all searches throughout the entire

globe and now come to this natural product. A product which says, your search

has ended. Now begin your life. Where will you go first. Zero point energy?

That stop is too short my friend, we couldn't make change on the ticket.

-

alstrup

Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:24 PM

RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

 

 

 

Shiva can multiply Himself directly through Himself or indirectly

through Himself in all directions, he has no material limitations.

I will send feedback here about my future comparative experiences

with the tachyonized rudraksha and Siddh Mala.

 

Love, Ole

, "Kirk"

<kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote:

> Can you multiply Shiva by Shiva? One is one, that's it!

> -

> kumar satish

>

> Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:09 PM

> Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

>

>

> Dear members,

>

> Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

> site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

> I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

> crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

> tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

> properties of both.

>

> Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

> rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

> energises it.

>

> Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

> to give it additional properties.

>

> Any comments.

>

> With Warm Regards,

> Satish

>

>

> Plus - For a better Internet experience

> http://uk.promotions./yplus/yoffer.html

>

> Sponsor

>

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to: -

>

>

>

> Terms of

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>

>

>

 

 

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Kirk - You ask, "Why are you here?" For myself I answer - For the fun of

it, that's why. For the delight of it all. For the taste, the smell, the

feeling, the sound, the presence and the sight of it all. The ultimate will

always be the ultimate. I am here for what I can experience here. That's

real for me. So, I try this and that. This ancient thing and this modern

thing. I have beads and I have a cell phone. Fun. Nothing serious going

on here. The Buddha wears a wristwatch. Mother Divine has a web-site.

Rinpoche drives a BMW. It's all experience. For the fun of it. Byron

Katie says, "who needs enlightenment if you are happy?" I like that.

That's the whole point for me. Whatever works.

 

love,

alan

 

 

>"Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt

>

><>

>Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

>Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:18:38 -0500

>

>That's good because remember the pyramid is merely a cross squared, and

>leading to one. Any point of stasis or equilibrium of the elements equals

>oneness, sameness, or the basic emptiness of the clear light mind itself.

>Therefore, all the rest is merely some form, or in other words - maya. The

>unmanifest will always remain unmanifest. End of story. So again, how do

>you multiply one by itself? There is only one answer, and it is silence.

>Shiva presents the linga to point the direction to the oneness of the basic

>fabric of existance. You can place a tachyon and stack it on top of a

>quark brimming over with zero point vacuum state fluctuations and wrap it

>all up and fold it into a pyramid and hang that as a pendant on a mala of

>15,000,000,000 rudraksha, and what will you get? You tell me. I'll tell

>you, you will get this world. What do you really want? Don't be upset with

>me. Why are you here? Are we just some sort of freakish experiment to

>you? I'll tell you what I want. I want to be excelent at something,

>anything so that I can plant a stone marker and say I was here, you know do

>something really worthwhile. This is why the Olympics still makes me cry

>every time NBC hypes the story of the atheletes - because they are out

>front making excellence a reality in spite of all adversity, while I,

>basically a loser, am doing nothing worthwhile. Sure a few people thank me

>for some things but it's nothing like getting the gold at something. I

>always wanted to be a hero. And I want freedom from pain, because every

>time I get rid of one pain another one pops up. I'm not sure rudraksha has

>much to do with my desires. I just wear them. I wouldn't know how to test

>their efficacousness. (sp?) Please keep us up to date. But how and by what

>standard will you separate the tachyon thing from the beads? I said I

>wanted the gold, well, rudraksha are the gold really arent they? They are

>about as esoteric as anything anyone could ever want, and they show that

>one has exhausted all searches throughout the entire globe and now come to

>this natural product. A product which says, your search has ended. Now

>begin your life. Where will you go first. Zero point energy? That stop is

>too short my friend, we couldn't make change on the ticket.

> -

> alstrup

>

> Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:24 PM

> RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

>

>

>

> Shiva can multiply Himself directly through Himself or indirectly

> through Himself in all directions, he has no material limitations.

> I will send feedback here about my future comparative experiences

> with the tachyonized rudraksha and Siddh Mala.

>

> Love, Ole

> , "Kirk"

> <kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote:

> > Can you multiply Shiva by Shiva? One is one, that's it!

> > -

> > kumar satish

> >

> > Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:09 PM

> > Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> >

> >

> > Dear members,

> >

> > Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

> > site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

> > I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

> > crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

> > tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

> > properties of both.

> >

> > Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

> > rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

> > energises it.

> >

> > Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

> > to give it additional properties.

> >

> > Any comments.

> >

> > With Warm Regards,

> > Satish

> >

> >

> > Plus - For a better Internet experience

> > http://uk.promotions./yplus/yoffer.html

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to: -

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> Sponsor

>

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to:

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

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Hello to all Friends

It looks EGO wants to fight, & beingness wants to be in bliss !! what a

contrast, that is the reason GYANI ( knowledgeable) never argus with Pandits(

SCholars).

Please be kind & try to be helpful to all of us instead of a taking ego ride.

I am sorry, do not mean to impose my thoughts, I feel very special for part of

this group.

Love to all, May divine bless

Ashok

 

Alan Scherr <source311 wrote:

Kirk - You ask, "Why are you here?" For myself I answer - For the fun of

it, that's why. For the delight of it all. For the taste, the smell, the

feeling, the sound, the presence and the sight of it all. The ultimate will

always be the ultimate. I am here for what I can experience here. That's

real for me. So, I try this and that. This ancient thing and this modern

thing. I have beads and I have a cell phone. Fun. Nothing serious going

on here. The Buddha wears a wristwatch. Mother Divine has a web-site.

Rinpoche drives a BMW. It's all experience. For the fun of it. Byron

Katie says, "who needs enlightenment if you are happy?" I like that.

That's the whole point for me. Whatever works.

 

love,

alan

 

 

>"Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt

>

><>

>Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

>Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:18:38 -0500

>

>That's good because remember the pyramid is merely a cross squared, and

>leading to one. Any point of stasis or equilibrium of the elements equals

>oneness, sameness, or the basic emptiness of the clear light mind itself.

>Therefore, all the rest is merely some form, or in other words - maya. The

>unmanifest will always remain unmanifest. End of story. So again, how do

>you multiply one by itself? There is only one answer, and it is silence.

>Shiva presents the linga to point the direction to the oneness of the basic

>fabric of existance. You can place a tachyon and stack it on top of a

>quark brimming over with zero point vacuum state fluctuations and wrap it

>all up and fold it into a pyramid and hang that as a pendant on a mala of

>15,000,000,000 rudraksha, and what will you get? You tell me. I'll tell

>you, you will get this world. What do you really want? Don't be upset with

>me. Why are you here? Are we just some sort of freakish experiment to

>you? I'll tell you what I want. I want to be excelent at something,

>anything so that I can plant a stone marker and say I was here, you know do

>something really worthwhile. This is why the Olympics still makes me cry

>every time NBC hypes the story of the atheletes - because they are out

>front making excellence a reality in spite of all adversity, while I,

>basically a loser, am doing nothing worthwhile. Sure a few people thank me

>for some things but it's nothing like getting the gold at something. I

>always wanted to be a hero. And I want freedom from pain, because every

>time I get rid of one pain another one pops up. I'm not sure rudraksha has

>much to do with my desires. I just wear them. I wouldn't know how to test

>their efficacousness. (sp?) Please keep us up to date. But how and by what

>standard will you separate the tachyon thing from the beads? I said I

>wanted the gold, well, rudraksha are the gold really arent they? They are

>about as esoteric as anything anyone could ever want, and they show that

>one has exhausted all searches throughout the entire globe and now come to

>this natural product. A product which says, your search has ended. Now

>begin your life. Where will you go first. Zero point energy? That stop is

>too short my friend, we couldn't make change on the ticket.

> -

> alstrup

>

> Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:24 PM

> RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

>

>

>

> Shiva can multiply Himself directly through Himself or indirectly

> through Himself in all directions, he has no material limitations.

> I will send feedback here about my future comparative experiences

> with the tachyonized rudraksha and Siddh Mala.

>

> Love, Ole

> , "Kirk"

> <kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote:

> > Can you multiply Shiva by Shiva? One is one, that's it!

> > -

> > kumar satish

> >

> > Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:09 PM

> > Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> >

> >

> > Dear members,

> >

> > Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

> > site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

> > I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

> > crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

> > tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

> > properties of both.

> >

> > Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

> > rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

> > energises it.

> >

> > Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

> > to give it additional properties.

> >

> > Any comments.

> >

> > With Warm Regards,

> > Satish

> >

> >

> > Plus - For a better Internet experience

> > http://uk.promotions./yplus/yoffer.html

> >

> > Sponsor

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to: -

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Terms of

> Service.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Hey thanks for answering. The same holds true for me as well, the blend of

ancient and modern is quite fun.

-

Alan Scherr

Saturday, August 30, 2003 2:38 PM

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Kirk - You ask, "Why are you here?" For myself I answer - For the fun of

it, that's why. For the delight of it all. For the taste, the smell, the

feeling, the sound, the presence and the sight of it all. The ultimate will

always be the ultimate. I am here for what I can experience here. That's

real for me. So, I try this and that. This ancient thing and this modern

thing. I have beads and I have a cell phone. Fun. Nothing serious going

on here. The Buddha wears a wristwatch. Mother Divine has a web-site.

Rinpoche drives a BMW. It's all experience. For the fun of it. Byron

Katie says, "who needs enlightenment if you are happy?" I like that.

That's the whole point for me. Whatever works.

 

love,

alan

 

 

>"Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt

>

><>

>Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

>Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:18:38 -0500

>

>That's good because remember the pyramid is merely a cross squared, and

>leading to one. Any point of stasis or equilibrium of the elements equals

>oneness, sameness, or the basic emptiness of the clear light mind itself.

>Therefore, all the rest is merely some form, or in other words - maya. The

>unmanifest will always remain unmanifest. End of story. So again, how do

>you multiply one by itself? There is only one answer, and it is silence.

>Shiva presents the linga to point the direction to the oneness of the basic

>fabric of existance. You can place a tachyon and stack it on top of a

>quark brimming over with zero point vacuum state fluctuations and wrap it

>all up and fold it into a pyramid and hang that as a pendant on a mala of

>15,000,000,000 rudraksha, and what will you get? You tell me. I'll tell

>you, you will get this world. What do you really want? Don't be upset with

>me. Why are you here? Are we just some sort of freakish experiment to

>you? I'll tell you what I want. I want to be excelent at something,

>anything so that I can plant a stone marker and say I was here, you know do

>something really worthwhile. This is why the Olympics still makes me cry

>every time NBC hypes the story of the atheletes - because they are out

>front making excellence a reality in spite of all adversity, while I,

>basically a loser, am doing nothing worthwhile. Sure a few people thank me

>for some things but it's nothing like getting the gold at something. I

>always wanted to be a hero. And I want freedom from pain, because every

>time I get rid of one pain another one pops up. I'm not sure rudraksha has

>much to do with my desires. I just wear them. I wouldn't know how to test

>their efficacousness. (sp?) Please keep us up to date. But how and by what

>standard will you separate the tachyon thing from the beads? I said I

>wanted the gold, well, rudraksha are the gold really arent they? They are

>about as esoteric as anything anyone could ever want, and they show that

>one has exhausted all searches throughout the entire globe and now come to

>this natural product. A product which says, your search has ended. Now

>begin your life. Where will you go first. Zero point energy? That stop is

>too short my friend, we couldn't make change on the ticket.

> -

> alstrup

>

> Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:24 PM

> RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

>

>

>

> Shiva can multiply Himself directly through Himself or indirectly

> through Himself in all directions, he has no material limitations.

> I will send feedback here about my future comparative experiences

> with the tachyonized rudraksha and Siddh Mala.

>

> Love, Ole

> , "Kirk"

> <kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote:

> > Can you multiply Shiva by Shiva? One is one, that's it!

> > -

> > kumar satish

> >

> > Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:09 PM

> > Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> >

> >

> > Dear members,

> >

> > Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

> > site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

> > I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

> > crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

> > tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

> > properties of both.

> >

> > Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

> > rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

> > energises it.

> >

> > Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

> > to give it additional properties.

> >

> > Any comments.

> >

> > With Warm Regards,

> > Satish

> >

> >

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yes, of course!

-

Ashok Sanghavi

Saturday, August 30, 2003 6:12 PM

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Hello to all Friends

It looks EGO wants to fight, & beingness wants to be in bliss !! what a

contrast, that is the reason GYANI ( knowledgeable) never argus with Pandits(

SCholars).

Please be kind & try to be helpful to all of us instead of a taking ego ride.

I am sorry, do not mean to impose my thoughts, I feel very special for part of

this group.

Love to all, May divine bless

Ashok

 

Alan Scherr <source311 wrote:

Kirk - You ask, "Why are you here?" For myself I answer - For the fun of

it, that's why. For the delight of it all. For the taste, the smell, the

feeling, the sound, the presence and the sight of it all. The ultimate will

always be the ultimate. I am here for what I can experience here. That's

real for me. So, I try this and that. This ancient thing and this modern

thing. I have beads and I have a cell phone. Fun. Nothing serious going

on here. The Buddha wears a wristwatch. Mother Divine has a web-site.

Rinpoche drives a BMW. It's all experience. For the fun of it. Byron

Katie says, "who needs enlightenment if you are happy?" I like that.

That's the whole point for me. Whatever works.

 

love,

alan

 

 

>"Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt

>

><>

>Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

>Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:18:38 -0500

>

>That's good because remember the pyramid is merely a cross squared, and

>leading to one. Any point of stasis or equilibrium of the elements equals

>oneness, sameness, or the basic emptiness of the clear light mind itself.

>Therefore, all the rest is merely some form, or in other words - maya. The

>unmanifest will always remain unmanifest. End of story. So again, how do

>you multiply one by itself? There is only one answer, and it is silence.

>Shiva presents the linga to point the direction to the oneness of the basic

>fabric of existance. You can place a tachyon and stack it on top of a

>quark brimming over with zero point vacuum state fluctuations and wrap it

>all up and fold it into a pyramid and hang that as a pendant on a mala of

>15,000,000,000 rudraksha, and what will you get? You tell me. I'll tell

>you, you will get this world. What do you really want? Don't be upset with

>me. Why are you here? Are we just some sort of freakish experiment to

>you? I'll tell you what I want. I want to be excelent at something,

>anything so that I can plant a stone marker and say I was here, you know do

>something really worthwhile. This is why the Olympics still makes me cry

>every time NBC hypes the story of the atheletes - because they are out

>front making excellence a reality in spite of all adversity, while I,

>basically a loser, am doing nothing worthwhile. Sure a few people thank me

>for some things but it's nothing like getting the gold at something. I

>always wanted to be a hero. And I want freedom from pain, because every

>time I get rid of one pain another one pops up. I'm not sure rudraksha has

>much to do with my desires. I just wear them. I wouldn't know how to test

>their efficacousness. (sp?) Please keep us up to date. But how and by what

>standard will you separate the tachyon thing from the beads? I said I

>wanted the gold, well, rudraksha are the gold really arent they? They are

>about as esoteric as anything anyone could ever want, and they show that

>one has exhausted all searches throughout the entire globe and now come to

>this natural product. A product which says, your search has ended. Now

>begin your life. Where will you go first. Zero point energy? That stop is

>too short my friend, we couldn't make change on the ticket.

> -

> alstrup

>

> Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:24 PM

> RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

>

>

>

> Shiva can multiply Himself directly through Himself or indirectly

> through Himself in all directions, he has no material limitations.

> I will send feedback here about my future comparative experiences

> with the tachyonized rudraksha and Siddh Mala.

>

> Love, Ole

> , "Kirk"

> <kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote:

> > Can you multiply Shiva by Shiva? One is one, that's it!

> > -

> > kumar satish

> >

> > Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:09 PM

> > Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> >

> >

> > Dear members,

> >

> > Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

> > site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

> > I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

> > crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

> > tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

> > properties of both.

> >

> > Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

> > rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

> > energises it.

> >

> > Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

> > to give it additional properties.

> >

> > Any comments.

> >

> > With Warm Regards,

> > Satish

> >

> >

> > Plus - For a better Internet experience

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Dear friends,

 

I agree with Kirkji's views. When you do the Pranpratishta to a bead you invoke

and invite (Avahan) the Deva's with pooja & spiritual discipline. Then you wear

them & are fully protected are guarded by them all through. In other words

Devata's work with you constantly for your upliftment. Each mukhi has a divine

purpose and duty to perform. That's why we are told to treat the beads with love

and respect. But how do you maintain this divine bond in tachyonisation? Very

difficult for me to understand.

 

Kirk <kirk_bernhardt wrote:

Hey thanks for answering. The same holds true for me as well, the blend of

ancient and modern is quite fun.

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Saturday, August 30, 2003 2:38 PM

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Kirk - You ask, "Why are you here?" For myself I answer - For the fun of

it, that's why. For the delight of it all. For the taste, the smell, the

feeling, the sound, the presence and the sight of it all. The ultimate will

always be the ultimate. I am here for what I can experience here. That's

real for me. So, I try this and that. This ancient thing and this modern

thing. I have beads and I have a cell phone. Fun. Nothing serious going

on here. The Buddha wears a wristwatch. Mother Divine has a web-site.

Rinpoche drives a BMW. It's all experience. For the fun of it. Byron

Katie says, "who needs enlightenment if you are happy?" I like that.

That's the whole point for me. Whatever works.

 

love,

alan

 

 

>"Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt

>

><>

>Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

>Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:18:38 -0500

>

>That's good because remember the pyramid is merely a cross squared, and

>leading to one. Any point of stasis or equilibrium of the elements equals

>oneness, sameness, or the basic emptiness of the clear light mind itself.

>Therefore, all the rest is merely some form, or in other words - maya. The

>unmanifest will always remain unmanifest. End of story. So again, how do

>you multiply one by itself? There is only one answer, and it is silence.

>Shiva presents the linga to point the direction to the oneness of the basic

>fabric of existance. You can place a tachyon and stack it on top of a

>quark brimming over with zero point vacuum state fluctuations and wrap it

>all up and fold it into a pyramid and hang that as a pendant on a mala of

>15,000,000,000 rudraksha, and what will you get? You tell me. I'll tell

>you, you will get this world. What do you really want? Don't be upset with

>me. Why are you here? Are we just some sort of freakish experiment to

>you? I'll tell you what I want. I want to be excelent at something,

>anything so that I can plant a stone marker and say I was here, you know do

>something really worthwhile. This is why the Olympics still makes me cry

>every time NBC hypes the story of the atheletes - because they are out

>front making excellence a reality in spite of all adversity, while I,

>basically a loser, am doing nothing worthwhile. Sure a few people thank me

>for some things but it's nothing like getting the gold at something. I

>always wanted to be a hero. And I want freedom from pain, because every

>time I get rid of one pain another one pops up. I'm not sure rudraksha has

>much to do with my desires. I just wear them. I wouldn't know how to test

>their efficacousness. (sp?) Please keep us up to date. But how and by what

>standard will you separate the tachyon thing from the beads? I said I

>wanted the gold, well, rudraksha are the gold really arent they? They are

>about as esoteric as anything anyone could ever want, and they show that

>one has exhausted all searches throughout the entire globe and now come to

>this natural product. A product which says, your search has ended. Now

>begin your life. Where will you go first. Zero point energy? That stop is

>too short my friend, we couldn't make change on the ticket.

> -

> alstrup

>

> Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:24 PM

> RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

>

>

>

> Shiva can multiply Himself directly through Himself or indirectly

> through Himself in all directions, he has no material limitations.

> I will send feedback here about my future comparative experiences

> with the tachyonized rudraksha and Siddh Mala.

>

> Love, Ole

> , "Kirk"

> <kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote:

> > Can you multiply Shiva by Shiva? One is one, that's it!

> > -

> > kumar satish

> >

> > Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:09 PM

> > Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> >

> >

> > Dear members,

> >

> > Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

> > site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

> > I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

> > crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

> > tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

> > properties of both.

> >

> > Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

> > rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

> > energises it.

> >

> > Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

> > to give it additional properties.

> >

> > Any comments.

> >

> > With Warm Regards,

> > Satish

> >

> >

> > Plus - For a better Internet experience

> > http://uk.promotions./yplus/yoffer.html

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Or, as "Illusions" says-- "We are the fun havers; the otters of the

universe."

 

 

, "Alan Scherr"

<source311@h...> wrote:

> Kirk - You ask, "Why are you here?" For myself I answer - For the

fun of

> it, that's why. For the delight of it all. For the taste, the

smell, the

> feeling, the sound, the presence and the sight of it all. The

ultimate will

> always be the ultimate. I am here for what I can experience here.

That's

> real for me. So, I try this and that. This ancient thing and this

modern

> thing. I have beads and I have a cell phone. Fun. Nothing serious

going

> on here. The Buddha wears a wristwatch. Mother Divine has a

web-site.

> Rinpoche drives a BMW. It's all experience. For the fun of it.

Byron

> Katie says, "who needs enlightenment if you are happy?" I like

that.

> That's the whole point for me. Whatever works.

>

> love,

> alan

>

>

> >"Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt@c...>

> >

> ><>

> >Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> >Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:18:38 -0500

> >

> >That's good because remember the pyramid is merely a cross squared,

and

> >leading to one. Any point of stasis or equilibrium of the elements

equals

> >oneness, sameness, or the basic emptiness of the clear light mind

itself.

> >Therefore, all the rest is merely some form, or in other words -

maya. The

> >unmanifest will always remain unmanifest. End of story. So again,

how do

> >you multiply one by itself? There is only one answer, and it is

silence.

> >Shiva presents the linga to point the direction to the oneness of

the basic

> >fabric of existance. You can place a tachyon and stack it on top

of a

> >quark brimming over with zero point vacuum state fluctuations and

wrap it

> >all up and fold it into a pyramid and hang that as a pendant on a

mala of

> >15,000,000,000 rudraksha, and what will you get? You tell me.

I'll tell

> >you, you will get this world. What do you really want? Don't be

upset with

> >me. Why are you here? Are we just some sort of freakish

experiment to

> >you? I'll tell you what I want. I want to be excelent at

something,

> >anything so that I can plant a stone marker and say I was here, you

know do

> >something really worthwhile. This is why the Olympics still makes

me cry

> >every time NBC hypes the story of the atheletes - because they are

out

> >front making excellence a reality in spite of all adversity, while

I,

> >basically a loser, am doing nothing worthwhile. Sure a few people

thank me

> >for some things but it's nothing like getting the gold at

something. I

> >always wanted to be a hero. And I want freedom from pain, because

every

> >time I get rid of one pain another one pops up. I'm not sure

rudraksha has

> >much to do with my desires. I just wear them. I wouldn't know how

to test

> >their efficacousness. (sp?) Please keep us up to date. But how and

by what

> >standard will you separate the tachyon thing from the beads? I said

I

> >wanted the gold, well, rudraksha are the gold really arent they?

They are

> >about as esoteric as anything anyone could ever want, and they show

that

> >one has exhausted all searches throughout the entire globe and now

come to

> >this natural product. A product which says, your search has ended.

Now

> >begin your life. Where will you go first. Zero point energy? That

stop is

> >too short my friend, we couldn't make change on the ticket.

> > -

> > alstrup

> >

> > Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:24 PM

> > RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> >

> >

> >

> > Shiva can multiply Himself directly through Himself or

indirectly

> > through Himself in all directions, he has no material

limitations.

> > I will send feedback here about my future comparative

experiences

> > with the tachyonized rudraksha and Siddh Mala.

> >

> > Love, Ole

> > , "Kirk"

> > <kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote:

> > > Can you multiply Shiva by Shiva? One is one, that's it!

> > > -

> > > kumar satish

> > >

> > > Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:09 PM

> > > Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear members,

> > >

> > > Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

> > > site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

> > > I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

> > > crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

> > > tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

> > > properties of both.

> > >

> > > Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

> > > rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

> > > energises it.

> > >

> > > Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

> > > to give it additional properties.

> > >

> > > Any comments.

> > >

> > > With Warm Regards,

> > > Satish

> > >

> > >

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> > > http://uk.promotions./yplus/yoffer.html

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It's called "Illusions: the Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah," by

Richard Back.

 

It's a quick read- only a little over 100 pages. And, I've found it

extremely comforting, it puts things into perspective.

 

It's about a modern messiah who gets tired of people who want his

miracles, but not his messages. So, he quits-- walks off in the middle

of a miracle. The book is comprised of his ruminations on the nature

of man and the universe.

 

There are wonderful explanations of reincarnation, using the examples

of baseball teams and the movie, "Butch Cassidy, and the Sundance

Kid." I know that doesn't seem to make sense, but, believe me, it

works.

 

BTW-- I once quoted the book to DDji. He recognized the quote

immediately, because it's also one of his favorites.

 

Love, K.

 

 

, "Tiina Agur"

<xenamacbeal> wrote:

> Dear Kariji, your otter quote sent me right through the ceiling ...

> I'd like to read more, what book is this ?

>

> Love,

> Tiina

>

> , "karisprowl"

> <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > Or, as "Illusions" says-- "We are the fun havers; the otters of

the

> > universe."

> >

> >

> > , "Alan Scherr"

> > <source311@h...> wrote:

> > > Kirk - You ask, "Why are you here?" For myself I answer - For

> the

> > fun of

> > > it, that's why. For the delight of it all. For the taste, the

> > smell, the

> > > feeling, the sound, the presence and the sight of it all. The

> > ultimate will

> > > always be the ultimate. I am here for what I can experience

> here.

> > That's

> > > real for me. So, I try this and that. This ancient thing and

> this

> > modern

> > > thing. I have beads and I have a cell phone. Fun. Nothing

> serious

> > going

> > > on here. The Buddha wears a wristwatch. Mother Divine has a

> > web-site.

> > > Rinpoche drives a BMW. It's all experience. For the fun of it.

> > Byron

> > > Katie says, "who needs enlightenment if you are happy?" I like

> > that.

> > > That's the whole point for me. Whatever works.

> > >

> > > love,

> > > alan

> > >

> > >

> > > >"Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt@c...>

> > > >

> > > ><>

> > > >Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> > > >Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:18:38 -0500

> > > >

> > > >That's good because remember the pyramid is merely a cross

> squared,

> > and

> > > >leading to one. Any point of stasis or equilibrium of the

> elements

> > equals

> > > >oneness, sameness, or the basic emptiness of the clear light

> mind

> > itself.

> > > >Therefore, all the rest is merely some form, or in other words

-

> > maya. The

> > > >unmanifest will always remain unmanifest. End of story. So

> again,

> > how do

> > > >you multiply one by itself? There is only one answer, and it

is

> > silence.

> > > >Shiva presents the linga to point the direction to the oneness

> of

> > the basic

> > > >fabric of existance. You can place a tachyon and stack it on

> top

> > of a

> > > >quark brimming over with zero point vacuum state fluctuations

> and

> > wrap it

> > > >all up and fold it into a pyramid and hang that as a pendant on

> a

> > mala of

> > > >15,000,000,000 rudraksha, and what will you get? You tell me.

> > I'll tell

> > > >you, you will get this world. What do you really want? Don't

be

> > upset with

> > > >me. Why are you here? Are we just some sort of freakish

> > experiment to

> > > >you? I'll tell you what I want. I want to be excelent at

> > something,

> > > >anything so that I can plant a stone marker and say I was here,

> you

> > know do

> > > >something really worthwhile. This is why the Olympics still

> makes

> > me cry

> > > >every time NBC hypes the story of the atheletes - because they

> are

> > out

> > > >front making excellence a reality in spite of all adversity,

> while

> > I,

> > > >basically a loser, am doing nothing worthwhile. Sure a few

> people

> > thank me

> > > >for some things but it's nothing like getting the gold at

> > something. I

> > > >always wanted to be a hero. And I want freedom from pain,

> because

> > every

> > > >time I get rid of one pain another one pops up. I'm not sure

> > rudraksha has

> > > >much to do with my desires. I just wear them. I wouldn't know

> how

> > to test

> > > >their efficacousness. (sp?) Please keep us up to date. But how

> and

> > by what

> > > >standard will you separate the tachyon thing from the beads? I

> said

> > I

> > > >wanted the gold, well, rudraksha are the gold really arent

> they?

> > They are

> > > >about as esoteric as anything anyone could ever want, and they

> show

> > that

> > > >one has exhausted all searches throughout the entire globe and

> now

> > come to

> > > >this natural product. A product which says, your search has

> ended.

> > Now

> > > >begin your life. Where will you go first. Zero point energy?

> That

> > stop is

> > > >too short my friend, we couldn't make change on the ticket.

> > > > -

> > > > alstrup

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:24 PM

> > > > RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Shiva can multiply Himself directly through Himself or

> > indirectly

> > > > through Himself in all directions, he has no material

> > limitations.

> > > > I will send feedback here about my future comparative

> > experiences

> > > > with the tachyonized rudraksha and Siddh Mala.

> > > >

> > > > Love, Ole

> > > > , "Kirk"

> > > > <kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote:

> > > > > Can you multiply Shiva by Shiva? One is one, that's it!

> > > > > -

> > > > > kumar satish

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:09 PM

> > > > > Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New

> Answers

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

> > > > > site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

> > > > > I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

> > > > > crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

> > > > > tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

> > > > > properties of both.

> > > > >

> > > > > Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

> > > > > rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

> > > > > energises it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

> > > > > to give it additional properties.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any comments.

> > > > >

> > > > > With Warm Regards,

> > > > > Satish

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In case you didn't know, this is the author also of "Jonathon Livingston

Seagul," and the author is noneother than...Stephen King, using a pseudonym.

-

karisprowl

Monday, September 01, 2003 8:56 AM

RBSC : RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

 

 

It's called "Illusions: the Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah," by

Richard Back.

 

It's a quick read- only a little over 100 pages. And, I've found it

extremely comforting, it puts things into perspective.

 

It's about a modern messiah who gets tired of people who want his

miracles, but not his messages. So, he quits-- walks off in the middle

of a miracle. The book is comprised of his ruminations on the nature

of man and the universe.

 

There are wonderful explanations of reincarnation, using the examples

of baseball teams and the movie, "Butch Cassidy, and the Sundance

Kid." I know that doesn't seem to make sense, but, believe me, it

works.

 

BTW-- I once quoted the book to DDji. He recognized the quote

immediately, because it's also one of his favorites.

 

Love, K.

 

 

, "Tiina Agur"

<xenamacbeal> wrote:

> Dear Kariji, your otter quote sent me right through the ceiling ...

> I'd like to read more, what book is this ?

>

> Love,

> Tiina

>

> , "karisprowl"

> <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > Or, as "Illusions" says-- "We are the fun havers; the otters of

the

> > universe."

> >

> >

> > , "Alan Scherr"

> > <source311@h...> wrote:

> > > Kirk - You ask, "Why are you here?" For myself I answer - For

> the

> > fun of

> > > it, that's why. For the delight of it all. For the taste, the

> > smell, the

> > > feeling, the sound, the presence and the sight of it all. The

> > ultimate will

> > > always be the ultimate. I am here for what I can experience

> here.

> > That's

> > > real for me. So, I try this and that. This ancient thing and

> this

> > modern

> > > thing. I have beads and I have a cell phone. Fun. Nothing

> serious

> > going

> > > on here. The Buddha wears a wristwatch. Mother Divine has a

> > web-site.

> > > Rinpoche drives a BMW. It's all experience. For the fun of it.

> > Byron

> > > Katie says, "who needs enlightenment if you are happy?" I like

> > that.

> > > That's the whole point for me. Whatever works.

> > >

> > > love,

> > > alan

> > >

> > >

> > > >"Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt@c...>

> > > >

> > > ><>

> > > >Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> > > >Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:18:38 -0500

> > > >

> > > >That's good because remember the pyramid is merely a cross

> squared,

> > and

> > > >leading to one. Any point of stasis or equilibrium of the

> elements

> > equals

> > > >oneness, sameness, or the basic emptiness of the clear light

> mind

> > itself.

> > > >Therefore, all the rest is merely some form, or in other words

-

> > maya. The

> > > >unmanifest will always remain unmanifest. End of story. So

> again,

> > how do

> > > >you multiply one by itself? There is only one answer, and it

is

> > silence.

> > > >Shiva presents the linga to point the direction to the oneness

> of

> > the basic

> > > >fabric of existance. You can place a tachyon and stack it on

> top

> > of a

> > > >quark brimming over with zero point vacuum state fluctuations

> and

> > wrap it

> > > >all up and fold it into a pyramid and hang that as a pendant on

> a

> > mala of

> > > >15,000,000,000 rudraksha, and what will you get? You tell me.

> > I'll tell

> > > >you, you will get this world. What do you really want? Don't

be

> > upset with

> > > >me. Why are you here? Are we just some sort of freakish

> > experiment to

> > > >you? I'll tell you what I want. I want to be excelent at

> > something,

> > > >anything so that I can plant a stone marker and say I was here,

> you

> > know do

> > > >something really worthwhile. This is why the Olympics still

> makes

> > me cry

> > > >every time NBC hypes the story of the atheletes - because they

> are

> > out

> > > >front making excellence a reality in spite of all adversity,

> while

> > I,

> > > >basically a loser, am doing nothing worthwhile. Sure a few

> people

> > thank me

> > > >for some things but it's nothing like getting the gold at

> > something. I

> > > >always wanted to be a hero. And I want freedom from pain,

> because

> > every

> > > >time I get rid of one pain another one pops up. I'm not sure

> > rudraksha has

> > > >much to do with my desires. I just wear them. I wouldn't know

> how

> > to test

> > > >their efficacousness. (sp?) Please keep us up to date. But how

> and

> > by what

> > > >standard will you separate the tachyon thing from the beads? I

> said

> > I

> > > >wanted the gold, well, rudraksha are the gold really arent

> they?

> > They are

> > > >about as esoteric as anything anyone could ever want, and they

> show

> > that

> > > >one has exhausted all searches throughout the entire globe and

> now

> > come to

> > > >this natural product. A product which says, your search has

> ended.

> > Now

> > > >begin your life. Where will you go first. Zero point energy?

> That

> > stop is

> > > >too short my friend, we couldn't make change on the ticket.

> > > > -

> > > > alstrup

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:24 PM

> > > > RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Shiva can multiply Himself directly through Himself or

> > indirectly

> > > > through Himself in all directions, he has no material

> > limitations.

> > > > I will send feedback here about my future comparative

> > experiences

> > > > with the tachyonized rudraksha and Siddh Mala.

> > > >

> > > > Love, Ole

> > > > , "Kirk"

> > > > <kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote:

> > > > > Can you multiply Shiva by Shiva? One is one, that's it!

> > > > > -

> > > > > kumar satish

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:09 PM

> > > > > Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New

> Answers

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

> > > > > site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

> > > > > I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

> > > > > crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

> > > > > tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

> > > > > properties of both.

> > > > >

> > > > > Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

> > > > > rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

> > > > > energises it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

> > > > > to give it additional properties.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any comments.

> > > > >

> > > > > With Warm Regards,

> > > > > Satish

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience

> > > > > http://uk.promotions./yplus/yoffer.html

> > > > >

> > > > > Sponsor

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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BTW-- I once had a new boss who was stressed out, and disappointed

that his promotion didn't give him any "authority." I gave him a copy

of the book. He was SO much comforted, that he went out that night,

and bought all the rest of Bach's books. However, most of the rest are

on--- aviation. <g>

 

Love, K.

 

 

, "Tiina Agur"

<xenamacbeal> wrote:

> Dear Kariji, your otter quote sent me right through the ceiling ...

> I'd like to read more, what book is this ?

>

> Love,

> Tiina

>

> , "karisprowl"

> <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > Or, as "Illusions" says-- "We are the fun havers; the otters of

the

> > universe."

> >

> >

> > , "Alan Scherr"

> > <source311@h...> wrote:

> > > Kirk - You ask, "Why are you here?" For myself I answer - For

> the

> > fun of

> > > it, that's why. For the delight of it all. For the taste, the

> > smell, the

> > > feeling, the sound, the presence and the sight of it all. The

> > ultimate will

> > > always be the ultimate. I am here for what I can experience

> here.

> > That's

> > > real for me. So, I try this and that. This ancient thing and

> this

> > modern

> > > thing. I have beads and I have a cell phone. Fun. Nothing

> serious

> > going

> > > on here. The Buddha wears a wristwatch. Mother Divine has a

> > web-site.

> > > Rinpoche drives a BMW. It's all experience. For the fun of it.

> > Byron

> > > Katie says, "who needs enlightenment if you are happy?" I like

> > that.

> > > That's the whole point for me. Whatever works.

> > >

> > > love,

> > > alan

> > >

> > >

> > > >"Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt@c...>

> > > >

> > > ><>

> > > >Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> > > >Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:18:38 -0500

> > > >

> > > >That's good because remember the pyramid is merely a cross

> squared,

> > and

> > > >leading to one. Any point of stasis or equilibrium of the

> elements

> > equals

> > > >oneness, sameness, or the basic emptiness of the clear light

> mind

> > itself.

> > > >Therefore, all the rest is merely some form, or in other words

-

> > maya. The

> > > >unmanifest will always remain unmanifest. End of story. So

> again,

> > how do

> > > >you multiply one by itself? There is only one answer, and it

is

> > silence.

> > > >Shiva presents the linga to point the direction to the oneness

> of

> > the basic

> > > >fabric of existance. You can place a tachyon and stack it on

> top

> > of a

> > > >quark brimming over with zero point vacuum state fluctuations

> and

> > wrap it

> > > >all up and fold it into a pyramid and hang that as a pendant on

> a

> > mala of

> > > >15,000,000,000 rudraksha, and what will you get? You tell me.

> > I'll tell

> > > >you, you will get this world. What do you really want? Don't

be

> > upset with

> > > >me. Why are you here? Are we just some sort of freakish

> > experiment to

> > > >you? I'll tell you what I want. I want to be excelent at

> > something,

> > > >anything so that I can plant a stone marker and say I was here,

> you

> > know do

> > > >something really worthwhile. This is why the Olympics still

> makes

> > me cry

> > > >every time NBC hypes the story of the atheletes - because they

> are

> > out

> > > >front making excellence a reality in spite of all adversity,

> while

> > I,

> > > >basically a loser, am doing nothing worthwhile. Sure a few

> people

> > thank me

> > > >for some things but it's nothing like getting the gold at

> > something. I

> > > >always wanted to be a hero. And I want freedom from pain,

> because

> > every

> > > >time I get rid of one pain another one pops up. I'm not sure

> > rudraksha has

> > > >much to do with my desires. I just wear them. I wouldn't know

> how

> > to test

> > > >their efficacousness. (sp?) Please keep us up to date. But how

> and

> > by what

> > > >standard will you separate the tachyon thing from the beads? I

> said

> > I

> > > >wanted the gold, well, rudraksha are the gold really arent

> they?

> > They are

> > > >about as esoteric as anything anyone could ever want, and they

> show

> > that

> > > >one has exhausted all searches throughout the entire globe and

> now

> > come to

> > > >this natural product. A product which says, your search has

> ended.

> > Now

> > > >begin your life. Where will you go first. Zero point energy?

> That

> > stop is

> > > >too short my friend, we couldn't make change on the ticket.

> > > > -

> > > > alstrup

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:24 PM

> > > > RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New Answers

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Shiva can multiply Himself directly through Himself or

> > indirectly

> > > > through Himself in all directions, he has no material

> > limitations.

> > > > I will send feedback here about my future comparative

> > experiences

> > > > with the tachyonized rudraksha and Siddh Mala.

> > > >

> > > > Love, Ole

> > > > , "Kirk"

> > > > <kirk_bernhardt@c...> wrote:

> > > > > Can you multiply Shiva by Shiva? One is one, that's it!

> > > > > -

> > > > > kumar satish

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:09 PM

> > > > > Re: RBSC : Re: Tachyonized Rudraksha - New

> Answers

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Tachyonized rudraksha - i had gone through their web

> > > > > site, they are selling tachnoized pendants (crystals).

> > > > > I feel the concept is simple, instead of regular

> > > > > crystal being tachyonized here rudraksha is

> > > > > tachynized. Hence the combined result is having

> > > > > properties of both.

> > > > >

> > > > > Have any body heard of pyramid healing. That is food,

> > > > > rings kept inside pyramid (made of plastic/metal)

> > > > > energises it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can rudraksha be kept inside pyramid when not wearing

> > > > > to give it additional properties.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any comments.

> > > > >

> > > > > With Warm Regards,

> > > > > Satish

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience

> > > > > http://uk.promotions./yplus/yoffer.html

> > > > >

> > > > > Sponsor

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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