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Dear Kari,

 

In posting #3703 you wrote that due to "energy melding" of beads, it

is recommended that malas not be "swapped around."

 

I dont understand...What happens? Beads entrain to the particular

person wearing them and develop a new personal signature and if

others use them, there will energetic side effects?

 

Anyone else, please feel free to comment.

 

Many thanks,

 

Love, Ole

 

 

, "karisprowl"

<karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

> comes back online.

>

> I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed

in

> scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard

for

> both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

cultures.

> Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

>

> I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

> energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

takes

> about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

malas

> not be "swapped around."

>

> Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

mukhi

> for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

> feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

without

> any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

> folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

and

> 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

>

> Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

>

> Take all the very best care, Kari

>

>

> , "alstrup"

> <alstrup> wrote:

> > Dear DharmaDevji

> >

> > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline?

Is

> > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

not

> > find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

> the

> > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be

very

> > individual...

> > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> right

> > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

#3643

> > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

horoscope

> > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> > them. What would be your fee?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Ole

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In

, "ShiningLotus"

> > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > >

> > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

with

> > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > >

> > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

initial

> > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing

of

> > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

> > Beads

> > >

> > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> where

> > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

place

> > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

> day

> > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

continue

> > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> > Ashley Farrand

> > >

> > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > >

> > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > >

> > > DharmaDev

> > >

> > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > >

> > <>

> > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > >

> > >

> > > dear darmadevaji

> > >

> > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > >

> > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

wearing

> > the

> > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

centre

> > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the

puja

> > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

days

> > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

> mala

> > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> > would

> > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart

from

> > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> > effect

> > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > >

> > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > >

> > > om namah shivaya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Sponsor

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To send an email to: -

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Terms of

> > Service.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Yes. They entrain to the wearer, and start clearing up the wearer's

"baggage." I allow other people to touch and handle my beeads, but not

wear them for an extended period. I would rather not pick up anyone

else's baggage, in addition to my own.

 

K.

 

, "alstrup"

<alstrup> wrote:

>

> Dear Kari,

>

> In posting #3703 you wrote that due to "energy melding" of beads, it

> is recommended that malas not be "swapped around."

>

> I dont understand...What happens? Beads entrain to the particular

> person wearing them and develop a new personal signature and if

> others use them, there will energetic side effects?

>

> Anyone else, please feel free to comment.

>

> Many thanks,

>

> Love, Ole

>

>

> , "karisprowl"

> <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

> > comes back online.

> >

> > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed

> in

> > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard

> for

> > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> cultures.

> > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

> >

> > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

> > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

> takes

> > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

> malas

> > not be "swapped around."

> >

> > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

> mukhi

> > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

> > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> without

> > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

> > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

> and

> > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> >

> > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> >

> > Take all the very best care, Kari

> >

> >

> > , "alstrup"

> > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > >

> > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline?

> Is

> > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

> not

> > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

> > the

> > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be

> very

> > > individual...

> > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> > right

> > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

> #3643

> > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> horoscope

> > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> > > them. What would be your fee?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Ole

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

> , "ShiningLotus"

> > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

> with

> > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > >

> > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> initial

> > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing

> of

> > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher

Mukhi

> > > Beads

> > > >

> > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> > where

> > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

> place

> > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

> > day

> > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> continue

> > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> > > Ashley Farrand

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > >

> > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > >

> > > > DharmaDev

> > > >

> > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > >

> > > <>

> > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > >

> > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> wearing

> > > the

> > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

> centre

> > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the

> puja

> > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

> days

> > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

> > mala

> > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> > > would

> > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart

> from

> > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> > > effect

> > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > >

> > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sponsor

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > To send an email to: -

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Terms of

> > > Service.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been remo

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This is a bit ambigous to me. Are you saying that the beads

assimilate/accumulate elemental energy and get polluted like

gems/crystals? They are not self cleaning? Or do beads change their

subharmonic signature to precisely match the needs of that person

who have worn them for some time and then they cannot change back?

Both of these sounds strange, if beads are divine catalysts of

Devatas and have consciousness, why should they not be able to

adjust to anyone wearing them, regardless of whom have worn them

before?

 

Ole

, "karisprowl"

<karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> Yes. They entrain to the wearer, and start clearing up the

wearer's

> "baggage." I allow other people to touch and handle my beeads, but

not

> wear them for an extended period. I would rather not pick up

anyone

> else's baggage, in addition to my own.

>

> K.

>

> , "alstrup"

> <alstrup> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kari,

> >

> > In posting #3703 you wrote that due to "energy melding" of

beads, it

> > is recommended that malas not be "swapped around."

> >

> > I dont understand...What happens? Beads entrain to the

particular

> > person wearing them and develop a new personal signature and if

> > others use them, there will energetic side effects?

> >

> > Anyone else, please feel free to comment.

> >

> > Many thanks,

> >

> > Love, Ole

> >

> >

> > , "karisprowl"

> > <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until

he

> > > comes back online.

> > >

> > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

addressed

> > in

> > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized

standard

> > for

> > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> > cultures.

> > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search

engine,

> > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop

up.

> > >

> > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

beads'

> > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like

it

> > takes

> > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in

one's

> > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90

days.

> > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

> > malas

> > > not be "swapped around."

> > >

> > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

> > mukhi

> > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

any "jarring"

> > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> > without

> > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time.

Some

> > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing

15s

> > and

> > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > >

> > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > >

> > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > >

> > >

> > > , "alstrup"

> > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > >

> > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days

discipline?

> > Is

> > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I

could

> > not

> > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

specific

> > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of

bad

> > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to

wearing of

> > > the

> > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things.

Are

> > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens

with

> > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must

be

> > very

> > > > individual...

> > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to

get

> > > right

> > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings

at

> > #3643

> > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> > horoscope

> > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to

look at

> > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Ole

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

> > with

> > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > >

> > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> > initial

> > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

balanceing

> > of

> > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher

> Mukhi

> > > > Beads

> > > > >

> > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a

day

> > > where

> > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

> > place

> > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is

the

> > > day

> > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> > continue

> > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is

same

> > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

Thomas

> > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > >

> > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > >

> > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > >

> > > > <>

> > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > >

> > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> > wearing

> > > > the

> > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

> > centre

> > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing

the

> > puja

> > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

> > days

> > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

5mukhi

> > > mala

> > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the

necklace i

> > > > would

> > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed

apart

> > from

> > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and

the

> > > > effect

> > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > >

> > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sponsor

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > To send an email to:

-

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Terms

of

> > > > Service.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been remo

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Even the Gods and humankind trade and meld energies-- just like

parents and children do.

 

The beads can pick up energies from other people. That's why one may

bequeath them, but many people feel one shouldn't, say, lend them

around to friends.

 

If you feel confident sharing your beads to that degree-- do what

feels right to you. I wouldn't do it. Though, as I have said, I do

allow people to touch them. Some people won't even allow a touch--

they feel that their relationship with their malas is so intimate that

other people should never even touch the beads.

 

I have read varying opinions re: whether or not the beads can be

"besmirched." I don't think that they can be deconsecrated. But, I do

think that they can pick up random energies that one might not want,

even if only for a little while.

 

I am careful to honor them as much as I can by keeping the wearing of

them to myself, by cleaning and scenting them about weekly with olive

oil, sandalwood oil, incense, and a few drops of Ganges water. Tending

them enhances the relationship, and is also a fine meditations.

 

Another excellent meditation is making one's own mala.

 

One has to remember that the beads represent a sacred relationship

between the Gods and the maker/wearer/annointer. Like a marriage. They

also represent all the potentials and dynamics of the universes.

 

To hand them around as casually as one would lend a jacket feels wrong

to many people.

 

Kari

 

 

, "alstrup"

<alstrup> wrote:

>

> This is a bit ambigous to me. Are you saying that the beads

> assimilate/accumulate elemental energy and get polluted like

> gems/crystals? They are not self cleaning? Or do beads change their

> subharmonic signature to precisely match the needs of that person

> who have worn them for some time and then they cannot change back?

> Both of these sounds strange, if beads are divine catalysts of

> Devatas and have consciousness, why should they not be able to

> adjust to anyone wearing them, regardless of whom have worn them

> before?

>

> Ole

> , "karisprowl"

> <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > Yes. They entrain to the wearer, and start clearing up the

> wearer's

> > "baggage." I allow other people to touch and handle my beeads, but

> not

> > wear them for an extended period. I would rather not pick up

> anyone

> > else's baggage, in addition to my own.

> >

> > K.

> >

> > , "alstrup"

> > <alstrup> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kari,

> > >

> > > In posting #3703 you wrote that due to "energy melding" of

> beads, it

> > > is recommended that malas not be "swapped around."

> > >

> > > I dont understand...What happens? Beads entrain to the

> particular

> > > person wearing them and develop a new personal signature and if

> > > others use them, there will energetic side effects?

> > >

> > > Anyone else, please feel free to comment.

> > >

> > > Many thanks,

> > >

> > > Love, Ole

> > >

> > >

> > > , "karisprowl"

> > > <karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until

> he

> > > > comes back online.

> > > >

> > > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

> addressed

> > > in

> > > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized

> standard

> > > for

> > > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> > > cultures.

> > > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search

> engine,

> > > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop

> up.

> > > >

> > > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

> beads'

> > > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like

> it

> > > takes

> > > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in

> one's

> > > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90

> days.

> > > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

> > > malas

> > > > not be "swapped around."

> > > >

> > > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

> > > mukhi

> > > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

> any "jarring"

> > > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> > > without

> > > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time.

> Some

> > > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing

> 15s

> > > and

> > > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > > >

> > > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > > >

> > > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "alstrup"

> > > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > > >

> > > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days

> discipline?

> > > Is

> > > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I

> could

> > > not

> > > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

> specific

> > > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of

> bad

> > > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to

> wearing of

> > > > the

> > > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things.

> Are

> > > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens

> with

> > > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must

> be

> > > very

> > > > > individual...

> > > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to

> get

> > > > right

> > > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings

> at

> > > #3643

> > > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> > > horoscope

> > > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to

> look at

> > > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Ole

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > , "ShiningLotus"

> > > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

> > > with

> > > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> > > initial

> > > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

> balanceing

> > > of

> > > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher

> > Mukhi

> > > > > Beads

> > > > > >

> > > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a

> day

> > > > where

> > > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

> > > place

> > > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is

> the

> > > > day

> > > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> > > continue

> > > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is

> same

> > > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

> Thomas

> > > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > > >

> > > > > <>

> > > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> > > wearing

> > > > > the

> > > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

> > > centre

> > > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing

> the

> > > puja

> > > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

> > > days

> > > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

> 5mukhi

> > > > mala

> > > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the

> necklace i

> > > > > would

> > > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed

> apart

> > > from

> > > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and

> the

> > > > > effect

> > > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om namah shivaya

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sponsor

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To send an email to:

> -

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Terms

> of

> > > > > Service.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this messa

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Hi Ole - my two cents on this topic is that what matters most is what you

believe about it. There are those who believe that to touch another human

being is polluting - and for them, it is true. When you have "pollution

data" - everything and everyone is a pollutant.

 

With Rudraksha, it is the same thing - what you believe is what will be your

experience. Most people, myself included, do not loan their beads out or

pass them around to others. To my knowledge, there is no scientific or

scriptural evidence for why this is the case other than people expressing

their beliefs and preferences. There is nothing wrong or right about it. If

you believe otherwise, then try it and see what your experience is instead

of struggling to make sense of other peoples' beliefs. These rights and

wrongs and do's and don'ts are of the mind - not the spirit or

consciousness. Let experience be the guide and then what is right for you

will be clearer.

 

love,

alan

 

 

>"alstrup" <alstrup

>

>

>RBSC : Energy meld / personal bead(s)

>Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:34:35 -0000

>

>

>Dear Kari,

>

>In posting #3703 you wrote that due to "energy melding" of beads, it

>is recommended that malas not be "swapped around."

>

>I dont understand...What happens? Beads entrain to the particular

>person wearing them and develop a new personal signature and if

>others use them, there will energetic side effects?

>

>Anyone else, please feel free to comment.

>

>Many thanks,

>

>Love, Ole

>

>

>, "karisprowl"

><karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until he

> > comes back online.

> >

> > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically addressed

>in

> > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard

>for

> > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

>cultures.

> > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop up.

> >

> > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the beads'

> > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

>takes

> > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

>malas

> > not be "swapped around."

> >

> > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

>mukhi

> > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent any "jarring"

> > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

>without

> > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time. Some

> > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

>and

> > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> >

> > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> >

> > Take all the very best care, Kari

> >

> >

> > , "alstrup"

> > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > >

> > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline?

>Is

> > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

>not

> > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this specific

> > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of bad

> > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing of

> > the

> > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things. Are

> > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens with

> > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be

>very

> > > individual...

> > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> > right

> > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

>#3643

> > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

>horoscope

> > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look at

> > > them. What would be your fee?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Ole

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

>, "ShiningLotus"

> > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

>with

> > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > >

> > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

>initial

> > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the balanceing

>of

> > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher Mukhi

> > > Beads

> > > >

> > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> > where

> > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

>place

> > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is the

> > day

> > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

>continue

> > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By Thomas

> > > Ashley Farrand

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > >

> > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > >

> > > > DharmaDev

> > > >

> > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > >

> > > <>

> > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > >

> > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

>wearing

> > > the

> > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

>centre

> > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the

>puja

> > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

>days

> > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my 5mukhi

> > mala

> > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the necklace i

> > > would

> > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart

>from

> > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and the

> > > effect

> > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > >

> > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > >

> > > > om namah shivaya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sponsor

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > To send an email to: -

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Terms of

> > > Service.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

>

 

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And, Ole, I think you'll find that you get answers to your questions

after you have worn the beads, for awhile-- particularly if you also

meditate regularly.

 

I doubt that any two people will have exactly the same effects from

the beads, because of the uniqueness of individual energies. That's

why quantification and predictability are impossible. As each person

has a distinct and individual relationship with the Gods, each person

also has a distinct and individual relationship with the beads.

 

K.

 

 

, "Alan Scherr"

<source311@h...> wrote:

> Hi Ole - my two cents on this topic is that what matters most is

what you

> believe about it. There are those who believe that to touch

another human

> being is polluting - and for them, it is true. When you

have "pollution

> data" - everything and everyone is a pollutant.

>

> With Rudraksha, it is the same thing - what you believe is what

will be your

> experience. Most people, myself included, do not loan their beads

out or

> pass them around to others. To my knowledge, there is no

scientific or

> scriptural evidence for why this is the case other than people

expressing

> their beliefs and preferences. There is nothing wrong or right

about it. If

> you believe otherwise, then try it and see what your experience is

instead

> of struggling to make sense of other peoples' beliefs. These

rights and

> wrongs and do's and don'ts are of the mind - not the spirit or

> consciousness. Let experience be the guide and then what is right

for you

> will be clearer.

>

> love,

> alan

>

>

> >"alstrup" <alstrup>

> >

> >

> >RBSC : Energy meld / personal bead(s)

> >Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:34:35 -0000

> >

> >

> >Dear Kari,

> >

> >In posting #3703 you wrote that due to "energy melding" of beads,

it

> >is recommended that malas not be "swapped around."

> >

> >I dont understand...What happens? Beads entrain to the particular

> >person wearing them and develop a new personal signature and if

> >others use them, there will energetic side effects?

> >

> >Anyone else, please feel free to comment.

> >

> >Many thanks,

> >

> >Love, Ole

> >

> >

> >, "karisprowl"

> ><karisprowl@e...> wrote:

> > > I'm not DDji, but maybe I can give you a partial answer, until

he

> > > comes back online.

> > >

> > > I don't know whether 40 days discipline is specifically

addressed

> >in

> > > scripture. But, I am aware that 40 days is a recognized standard

> >for

> > > both mantra and rudraksha discipline in Indian and Nepali

> >cultures.

> > > Try entering "40 days" and "rudraksha" into a Net search engine,

> > > sometime. You'll see several Indian and Nepali references pop

up.

> > >

> > > I've always been told that it takes around 40 days for the

beads'

> > > energies to "meld with" the wearer's natural energies-- like it

> >takes

> > > about 40 days for a mantra discipline to effect changes in one's

> > > energies. And, that effects accrue strongly after about 90 days.

> > > These guidelines apply to all the beads and combinations, I

> > > understand. This "energy melding" is why it's recommended that

> >malas

> > > not be "swapped around."

> > >

> > > Some people say that it's best to start with wearing the lower

> >mukhi

> > > for 40 days, and then add in the higher, to prevent

any "jarring"

> > > feelings. I started by wearing all the mukhi, up through 13,

> >without

> > > any "jarring." Things just got better and better, over time.

Some

> > > folks get a little "spacey," for awhile, when first wearing 15s

> >and

> > > 16s (right Kantiji? DDji? <g>).

> > >

> > > Hope this gives you some of the information that you need,

> > >

> > > Take all the very best care, Kari

> > >

> > >

> > > , "alstrup"

> > > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > > Dear DharmaDevji

> > > >

> > > > Where can I read more about the details of 40 days discipline?

> >Is

> > > > this coming from shastra, and if so, which scripture? I could

> >not

> > > > find anything about it at the website...is it for this

specific

> > > > 2,3,5 mukhi combination and what does it do, break cycle of

bad

> > > > karma? You mention that the 40 day threshold leads to wearing

of

> > > the

> > > > Higher Mukhi Beads, one should not wear higher mukhis in the

> > > > beginning or? I would like to know more about these things.

Are

> > > > Siddh Malas recommended by scripture for people with special

> > > > qualifications or can anyone wear such a mala? What happens

with

> > > > people who begin wearing a full Siddh mala, I guess it must be

> >very

> > > > individual...

> > > > I need some answers on this, please, I am not sure what to get

> > > right

> > > > now, what will be best for me, please see earlier postings at

> >#3643

> > > > and #3663. Thank you for any insights. I can send you the

> >horoscope

> > > > readings sent from Rudra Centre Mumbai, if you wanted to look

at

> > > > them. What would be your fee?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Ole

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> >, "ShiningLotus"

> > > > <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> > > > > MahaDev ! Dear Rajeswaraji

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message......your practice

> >with

> > > > RudraAbhishekam is perfect

> > > > >

> > > > > Totally agree with comments by Miss Kari also........the

> >initial

> > > > 40 days of wearing without a break is the key to the

balanceing

> >of

> > > > the Neurophysiology....that leads to wearing of the Higher

Mukhi

> > > > Beads

> > > > >

> > > > > is said that during the 40 day Discipline there may be a day

> > > where

> > > > many obstacles present themselves so the wearing cannot take

> >place

> > > > that day......that is the day we wait for........ as that is

the

> > > day

> > > > of breakthrough.....simply wear that day at all costs and

> >continue

> > > > the wearing to the 40th day to complete the process....is same

> > > > principle as seen written in the Book Healing Mantras By

Thomas

> > > > Ashley Farrand

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend

> > > > >

> > > > > Dhanyawaad cha Pranams Mitra

> > > > >

> > > > > DharmaDev

> > > > >

> > > > > rajeswara rao <sarvadu>

> > > > >

> > > > <>

> > > > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:38 AM

> > > > > RBSC : 40 days discipline

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > dear darmadevaji

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya and pranams,

> > > > >

> > > > > i have read about thew 40 days discipline followed while

> >wearing

> > > > the

> > > > > holy rudraksha. i received a mala 3, 5, 2 mukhi from rudra

> >centre

> > > > > aand started wearing on 4th august after duly performing the

> >puja

> > > > > and also abhisheka. i would like to know more about the 40

> >days

> > > > > dicipline. i regularly do eka-rudrabhisheka wearing my

5mukhi

> > > mala

> > > > > and the above necklace. since i started wearing the

necklace i

> > > > would

> > > > > like to know if there r any other rules to be followed apart

> >from

> > > > > what i am following. the necklace is really wonderful and

the

> > > > effect

> > > > > cannot be expressed in words.

> > > > >

> > > > > i would like you to enlighten more on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > om namah shivaya

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sponsor

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > To send an email to: -

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Terms of

> > > > Service.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> >

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