Commercial focus/Oleji

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Namaste Oleji,

 

Great to hear your package arrived, after all the stress/worry.

Well, "Shiva" is finally with you :-) And you've got the right idea

(to put it in your succinct words) that we are "servants of the

beads, not the other way round". This is so true!

 

With all respect, and I say this with utmost respect to all:

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Oleji, again you can make of things however and whatever you will and

wish. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. It is good that we

are able to discuss what we perceive to be "Truths", as we see them,

without animosity amongst us.

 

There is absolutely Nothing Personal here when I ask that yourself

and our friends here permit me liberty in putting forth this:

 

When thinking "Commercial" - is God/dess not traders? They

invented "trade" and "commercialism" if you like.. Why and how? We

have to propitiate them, perform pujas, make offerings, pray to them,

sing their praises, etc., before they would grant boons or hear our

cries for divine intervention in some cases. Thus in giving what it

is within God/dess's powers to give, aren't they also taking

something in return? Trading? or exchanging?

 

At temples, shrines, ashrams and other spiritual organisations, they

take "donations" for puja and other services. These are "houses of

God". In selling services and in some cases holy items like

rudrkasha, yantras, kavachas, etc. aren't they trading? or exchanging?

 

When we "donate" or pay, aren't we exchanging cash for something we

want or need? Nobody forces us to. But we want to. Why? Because the

other party is "selling" a "commodity" that we would like to have.

 

Respectfully, and in all fairness, I enquired about the same things

SRDDA did.

 

With respect, rudraksha sadhaks like Sri SRDDA, other distributors

and myself, take on rudraksha and ratna as our lives and in some

cases, our lives' work. Much more than sheer devotion is required in

trying to spread the message of rudraksha in the West. Some of us

rent places, pay for exhibition booths, tons of leaflets, provide

free consultations and sometimes free rudraksha and gem therapy, free

meditation coaching, free workshops and free malas to the less

advantaged and needy people in our societies. For all this, we

obtain shipments from Rudra Centre India.

 

Who's pockets or wallets do we get our finances from? God's

pockets/wallets too. Because rudraksha & ratna, like all things on

earth and in the cosmos, are of God/dess. Like temples, priests and

sanyasis, etc., I take "donations" to sustain our service to the

Divine, as a mere mortal.

 

If there are no devotees and no "buyers", there will be

no "sellers", "wholesalers" or "farmers". God/dess would starve and

become extinct too.

 

We did not say "every Nepali is a cheat". I've personally been to

Nepal and find most folks are wonderful people.

 

Om Namah Shivaya

With love

Sy

 

 

, "alstrup"

<alstrup> wrote:

 

> My objection is towards what I have come to perceive as veiled

> commercial focus from certain members behind this who

is

> involved with Rudra Centre as distributors.

>

> What was particular revealing to me, was the fact that DD seemed

> overly preoccupied with some fantasy that my initial posting about

> my malas coming from Nepal being some obscure attempt to bring

> attention to a certain Rudraksha dealer in Nepal of his interest.

> That was purely his own projection.

> He appearantly didnt find my sincere question to him about

> invocation ceremony interesting enough to answer, but repeatedly

> kept asking; where did you get this mala, what is the price etc

etc,

> even while I was lamenting that I might have lost my package.

> Nauseating to say the least..This is what I mean by commercial

> interests.

> If I wanted to raise attention about a Nepal Rudrakasha supplier

> here, I would simply have posted an address...but then again DD is

> Rudra Centre America and this group seems to be organized as a

front

> for Rudra Centre, nothing wrong in that per se, just be HONEST

about

> it and put it on the front page of this , instead of

> pretending to be non-commercial. I value honesty above anything

else.

>

> And finally, please be more fair and remember; if some persons from

> Nepal cheated somebody, that doesn't mean every Nepali is a

cheater.

> Rudra Centre also get their beads from Nepal...

>

> Ole

>

>

>

> , "kantikakini"

> <thunderheals@a...> wrote:

> > Don't know where or how you are interpreting "veiled

commercialism

> in

> > the flowery words of spirituality". I suggest you go to Rudra

> Centre

> > website and read the Mission Statement

> >

> > Kanti Kakini Devi

> >

> > , "alstrup"

> > <alstrup> wrote:

> > > Yes, I guess business is business when we are talking about

> trade,

> > > even with religious items. That is the nature of human beings.

> So

> > > there are warnings in scripture about these things, which I am

> > > taking very seriously, one example is Salagram Silas. Dont know

> > what

> > > scriptures say about trade with Rudraksha beads?

> > >

> > > What is nauseating here is veiled commercialism in the flowery

> > words

> > > of spirituality...

> > >

> > > Ole