Guest guest Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 Namaste Alanji, Thank you for your response. Absolutely agree with your thoughts, especially about Navratana and the league of enlightened mortals (pandits, aghoras, nagababas, etc., etc.) who are in a class of their own. Cannot help but feel that when time came when they no longer are affected by planetary placements, these indications would be in their birth charts nevertheless. The science of Jyotish is amazing and I often liken it to the Natha Grantha. Yes, very glad we can all share our truths as we conceive them :-) Om Namah Shivaya Sy , "Alan Scherr" <source311@h...> wrote: > Thank you, Sy - Yes... while there are no absolute truths in all cases... > for most of humanity, a little precaution makes good sense. Thus, in the > case of gems for natural malefics such as Mars, Saturn, Rahu and Ketu, it is > always advisable to check the chart before wearing the gemstone for such > planets. Gems are uni-dimensional in their energetic influence and thus, > once you are wearing or owning one, it will just keep flowing it's specific > energy. So, with gems, more precision diagnosis is necessary. For > gemstones to be universal, multi-dimensional and safe for all and anyone, > they should be worn equally altogether as in the Navaratna. > > Not so with Rudraksha, which are, in and of themselves, universally safe, > inherently multi-dimensionally energetic and always appropriate. As for the > bhaktas that you have described, this is obviously a special class of human > beings with whom few of us can identify. > > Glad we can all share our truth.... > > Namaste, > Alan > > > >"syzenith" <syzenith> > > > > > >RBSC : Ganesha Meditation:/ Jyotish/Alanji > >Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:36:39 -0000 > > > >Namaste Alan, > > > >Thank you for your input! You have a great point there in relation > >to Mars - absolutely agree about this. Fully agree that Mars > >afflicts 50% of humanity if not more :-) > > > >In posting what I did about charts not needing to be analyzed before > >an individual uses Red Coral, I'd neglected to mention that bhaktas > >of Maa Kali and Sri Ganeshaya, etc. (depends on the form worshipped > >and the tradition) may not be inclined to observe the rule of thumb > >regarding planetary placements in their charts. > > > >Was told its because they've already "given their lives, their "Ego" > >or "Self" to Maa Kali or another Ishta Devata, so whatever manifests > >in "real life" or "real time", is Maa's play, that it is all in > >Maa's hands, etc. > > > >These individuals, from what I know, are spiritually advanced (some > >see their bodies as temples of God or Yantras, etc.) to the point > >where they are able to ingest/consume "poisons" (e.g. cobra venom or > >chillums filled with deadly mixtures) but are not affected. By the > >same token, they do not think planetary placements affect them in > >any way. > > > >Would aprpeciate all input and thoughts from anyone who cares to > >share regarding this. Many thanks. > > > >Om Namah Shivaya > >Sy > > > >, "Alan Scherr" > ><source311@h...> wrote: > > > Hello dear friends... In relation to the Ganesh mala as we are > > > discussing... I would like to offer my input. The wearing of red > >coral is a > > > decision that is best made after checking one's chart. This is so > >because > > > it represents Mars, a natural malefic. With few exceptions, if > >red coral is > > > worn by those with Taurus, Gemini, Virgo, Libra, Capricorn or > >Aquarius > > > lagnas, the results could be detrimental. That is fully half of > >humanity!! > > > > > > If you are one of those individuals, there are safe alternatives > >for > > > creating a Ganesh mala that is powerful and authentic, other than > >using red > > > coral. I am happy to assist fmd as a free service within this > >forum. > > > > > > with love, > > > alan > > > > > > > > > >"syzenith" <syzenith> > > > > > > > > > > > >RBSC : Re: Ganesha Meditation: Mala recommendation > > > >Mon, 03 Nov 2003 23:05:03 -0000 > > > > > > > >Namaste Fmd, > > > > > > > >The proportions (as in number of beads) has been mentioned by Sri > > > >SRDDAji: i.e. 27 beads, 36, 54, etc. The mala length depends on > > > >your personal choice, whether you prefer it to reach your chest > > > >region or longer. This can be specified to Rudra Centre. If > > > >interested, please contact Miss Neeta at: neeta_ind@h... > > > > > > > >The planetary position in one's chart does not need to be known or > > > >analyzed for this purpose. However, it is up to the individual to > > > >decide. If you require a complete Jyotish chart, it is best to > > > >consult a Jyotish astrologer. Mr. Alan Scherr of our list here is > > > >great. > > > > > > > >Hope this helps. > > > > > > > >Jai Shree Ganeshaya Namah > > > >Sy > > > > > > > >, find_my_destiny > > > ><no_reply> wrote: > > > > > mitra, > > > > > > > > > > thanks indeed. what would be an ideal combo of ganesha > >rudraksha > > > >and > > > > > coral that you would recommend (i.e. 54 rudrakha + 54 coral > >etc.). > > > >is > > > > > there any specific proportion that is needed. also what would > >be > > > >the > > > > > effect of wearing this mala? would the planetary position of > >mars > > > >in > > > > > ones chart have to known and analyzed for this? > > > > > > > > > > thanks once again. > > > > > > > > > > pranaams > > > > > fmd > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > AumShiningLotus@a... wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friend > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar and thank you for your message to the group > > > >site.....yes > > > > > the Lord > > > > > > Genesha 8 Mukhi Rudraksa in a Japa Mala of 27 ro 54 or > > > >108......and > > > > > each with a > > > > > > Meru Bead added would be perfect for worship of Lord > > > >Ganesha.....if > > > > > you would > > > > > > like to have a Lord Ganesha Mantra Siddhi Mala then > > > >implementation > > > > > would be > > > > > > according to what is found in the Sri Mad Devi > > > > > Bhagavat.......stringing the > > > > > > Beads mouth part to mouth part.......what the writer of the > >Sri > > > >Mad > > > > > Devi Bhagavat > > > > > > is saying that at the time this Holy Book was written they > >were > > > > > useing the > > > > > > Beads in pairs for Mantra Siddhi Japa Malas.....in addition > >Miss > > > > > Neeta could > > > > > > string the Rudrasksa Beads with Coral Beads so you could > >have a > > > > > most Auspicous > > > > > > Japa Mala that you could also wear after Japa > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantras for Japa to Lord Ganesha are many however I can list > >of > > > >few > > > > > for you > > > > > > to use if you like > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Gum Ganapatayei Namaha > > > > > > Aum Gum Glaum Ganapatayei Namaha > > > > > > Aum Hreem Gum Glaum Ganapatayei Namaha > > > > > > Aum Hreem Gum Glaum MahaGanapatayei Namaha > > > > > > > > > > > > Can use one of these Mantras or can use all in sequence or > >you > > > >can > > > > > add others > > > > > > you find in the Holy Books if you like > > > > > > > > > > > > Also there are complete Lord Ganesha Puja found in the works > >of > > > > > NamaDeva at > > > > > > > >a > > > >d > > > > > societiesclub</A> > > > > > > > To:<A > > > > > > > > > > >HREF="">rudrakshabe > >a > > > >d > > > > > societiesclub</A> > > > > > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear brothers and sisters, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what would be a good rosary to meditate on lord ganesha > >(i.e. > > > >wrt > > > > > to > > > > > > > rudraksha mukhis). would 8-mukhi 108 bead mala offered by > >r- > > > >ratna > > > > > be > > > > > > > a good choice? also, what are the different mantras that > >can > > > >be > > > > > used > > > > > > > for japa on lord ganesha. in the website it is also > >mentioned > > > > > that > > > > > > > one can use the 108 coral mala for doing japa for ganesha? > > > >which > > > > > > > would be the more recommended one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look forward to everyone's input and insight! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fmd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. > > > https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) > > > > _______________ > Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? 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