21 Mukhi FM RAJIV

November 12, 2003

DEAR SY,

OM NAMAH SHIVAYE!

I AGREE WITH YOU IN TOTALITY ABOUT 21 MUKHI. THIS IS ONE OF THE RAREST BEAD AND

IS BOOKED IN ADVANCE BY AFFLUENT INDIAN FAMILIES. PEOPLE OUT HERE IN INDIA ARE

WILLING TO SPEND 20,000USD FOR A GENUINE 21 MUKHI BUT STILL THEY DONT GET IT.

MAY BE IN A DECADE PEOPLE SAY THAT 4 OR 5 BEADS NORMALLY COMES OUT.

I BEEN TO HARIDWAR PERSONALLY AND HAVE SEEN HOW NICELY FAKE RUDRAKSHA BEADS ARE

SOLD OUT THERE TO THE INNOCENT PUBLIC. YOU ARE VERY RIGHT IN TELLING THAT 12

MUKHI AND ABOVE BEADS AT HARIDWAR ARE ALL FAKE.

ONE HAS TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL IN BUYING RUDRAKSHAS.

RAJIV

rajeswara rao <sarvadu wrote:

dear syzenith

i had been a shop which sells rudrakshas yesterday and he showed some five mukhi

peppercorn size malas. when i asked him if he had any other mukhi beads he

showed some three mukhi oval indian beads which i feel are really genuine. he

has only 8-10 of them. what are the chances of 3 mukhi oval beads being fakes.

the price is Rs. 30/- per bead. i am wearing a 3 mukhi round procured from rudra

centre. i would also like to know the difference between 3 mukhi oval and round

beads energy-wise or result. i am planning to wear 9 beads of 3 mukhi( for mars

being a scorpio) + 9 beads of 6 mukhi (for i am born on bharani nakshatra-- say

for venus) + 9 beads of 5 mukhi plus one (any other bead if u would suggest).

kindly advise.

syzenith <syzenith wrote:

Namaskar Surya,

Hope you are ready for this... and won't lose your cool. You may

want to consider getting the scalpel out after reading below. Thank

Shiva you did not buy the 21 mukhi in Haridwar or you will want to

skin the dealer alive on your next trip.

Yes, authentic 21 mukhi are booked in advance by those who can

afford it. And the prices are indeed sky high (by most of our

standards) at US$15,000 to US$20,000 for the Real Thing.

In Haridwar, rudraksha higher than 12 mukhi are usually fakes.

During this particular season, demand has been especially high and

even 8 mukhis are faked by the carving of lines into lower mukhis.

It has been confirmed by Rudra Centre India that suppliers in

Haridwar openly mention that if they ever have genuine 14 mukhis, it

is for supplying to Rudra Centre. This is because they do not have

any clientele who will pay the actual market price of the authentic

14 mukhi due to cheaper fakes being sold all over the place.

It is known that fake One mukhi Round are sold widely too.

The best test to determine a genuine rudraksha from a fake bead is

to cut it, then count the number of seeds inside . A 3 mukhi has 3

seeds, 4 mukhi has 4 and 14 mukhi has 14 and 21 faced has 21 seeds.

This holds true for all beads of Nepali origin .

In the case of Oval 2 mukhi and 3 mukhi from India , the seeds are

not very prominent. If you cut a 2 mukhi Oval transversally, you

would see two locules, one large and one very tiny.

In the Oval 3 mukhi, there is one large locule and 2 almost

invisible locules or marks in their place.

If you cut an oval bead that is being sold widely as the "Round 1

mukhi" (this exterior is similar to Oval 3 mukhi), you will see an

identical structure of the 3 mukhi Oval bead, i.e. one large locule

and 2 insignificantly developed locules. This proves that the bead

is actually a tampered 3 mukhi Oval.

The above method of testing by cutting the beads, is important food

for thought, courtesy of Miss Neeta and Rudra Centre.

Om Namah Shivaya

Sy

, "mahamuni"

<mahamuni@c...> wrote:

> Sy,

>

> I have seen two 21 mukhi rudrakshas on my last trip to Northern

India. Both were absolutely authentic and from very reputable

dealers who had top quality material. I had dealt with both in the

past. They absolutely are not booked years in advance. There is

not just 2 or 3 fields supplying all of India. I'm not sure who is

giving you this incorrect info.

>

> As far as price, I feel you are way off. 9 lahk rupees ($20,000)

is off the wall, though I wouldn't doubt someone is trying to get

this for one of these. $1500-2000 is more like it. I had a buyer

for one in Haridwar (another Rudraksha dealer who had another

customer waiting for one) and found one on my last day in

Rishikesh. Could have profited 30,000 rps but I didn't have the

time since it was my last day. I didn't have the funds to put down

so much for myself. I had already made some super nice purchases of

the smallest, nicest chiknas I had ever seen, plus quite a few 14

mukhis, GS beads of 11, and 14-17 mukhis, as well as some with one

bead being one face.

>

> Anyway this is my experience.

>

> Surya

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November 12, 2003

I never said all were fake in Haridwar. There are some great rudraksha shops

there that are totally reputable. But they are far and few between.

If you know people willing to spend 20K for a 21 mukhi bead please tell me and I

will hunt one down.

Pranams,

Surya

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Rajiv

Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:51 AM

Re: RBSC : 21 Mukhi FM RAJIV

DEAR SY,

OM NAMAH SHIVAYE!

I AGREE WITH YOU IN TOTALITY ABOUT 21 MUKHI. THIS IS ONE OF THE RAREST BEAD

AND IS BOOKED IN ADVANCE BY AFFLUENT INDIAN FAMILIES. PEOPLE OUT HERE IN INDIA

ARE WILLING TO SPEND 20,000USD FOR A GENUINE 21 MUKHI BUT STILL THEY DONT GET

IT. MAY BE IN A DECADE PEOPLE SAY THAT 4 OR 5 BEADS NORMALLY COMES OUT.

I BEEN TO HARIDWAR PERSONALLY AND HAVE SEEN HOW NICELY FAKE RUDRAKSHA BEADS

ARE SOLD OUT THERE TO THE INNOCENT PUBLIC. YOU ARE VERY RIGHT IN TELLING THAT 12

MUKHI AND ABOVE BEADS AT HARIDWAR ARE ALL FAKE.

ONE HAS TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL IN BUYING RUDRAKSHAS.

RAJIV

rajeswara rao <sarvadu wrote:

dear syzenith

i had been a shop which sells rudrakshas yesterday and he showed some five

mukhi peppercorn size malas. when i asked him if he had any other mukhi beads he