Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Namaste Suraj, Its not that they don't know. They are just reluctant to share what is considered their 'domain' unless they know us well. Others may not feel it is their place to do so. We've discussed before on this List some time ago about how long it takes for the rudraksha tree to bear fruit and other associated info. Sri SRDDAji, Kantiji and Kariji may remember this thread better than I can. Maybe Mr. Alan Scherr and Kirkji can remember too. Sorry I can't recall exact facts regarding this topic, to be able to have a better discussion with you. Would very much like to hear what the Nepali ethnobotanist say. That is, if it is possible for you to share info here after hearing from him. Thank you in advance. Om Namah Shivaya Sy --- In , "surajraghavan2002" <suraj_raghavan@h...> wrote: > Believe me i've tried getting an answer to this question in vain. > Nobody seems to know exactly how it is done at the source. So i've > written to a Nepali ethnobotanist to see if he might know. Anyways, > does anyone know how long it takes for rudraksha trees to mature and > bear fruit? > > Suraj > > , "syzenith" > <syzenith> wrote: > > Namaste Suraj, > > > > Rabbling off the top of my nutter, so I may be wrong about this: > > > > Would say the small scale are pretty much like families cultivating > > rice paddies while bigger operations are quite like family-owned > tea > > plantations in Darjeeling. I don't know whether there are > > classifications for rudraksha species under "Wood Forest produce" > > like native natural medicinal plants. For plucking, be sure nobody > > sees you or the locals will get their parangs out or invoke > Bhairava > > or something to send us away :-) Anyway if the tree does not > belong > > to anyone, maybe it'll be safe. If it belongs to someone's plot of > > land or some folks revere it, then permission will have to be > sought. > > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > Sy > > > > --- In > > , "surajraghavan2002" > > <suraj_raghavan@h...> wrote: > > > All: > > > In light of the recent discussions, i got curious and searched in > > > vain on the Internet so perhaps someone on this group can > > enlighten > > > me. Are Rudraksha's "farm raised" in Nepal or are they considered > > Non- > > > Wood Forest produce like certain medicinal plants are in India > and > > > the US? If the latter, can anyone go to the naturally occuring > > > rudraksha areas in Nepal and "pluck" the berries from the trees > > > themselves, similar to wildrcrafting plants? Thanks! > > > Suraj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 In regards to how long the rudraksha tree takes to bear fruit- I am a newbie on this list but as a reference librarian I took this as a challenge. Alas I was able to find many reputable botanical websites which mention various Eleocarpus species, none of them discuss the life-cycle of the tree. Since I work at a small 4-year college library with a limited botany collection I wasn't able to find any more specialized sources. I would suggest contacting a large university botany department or reference librarian at a science library, particularly one focusing on tropical species. This source would not have any commercial interest in misleading anyone and would be most likely to give you a truthful answer. I am familiar with the Lyon Arboretum which is affiliated with the University of Hawai'i(where I studied), their phone # is (808)988-0456, fax (808)988-0462, email lyonarb. Hope this is helpful! -Dolma ===== At this very moment for the nations and peoples of the earth, may not even the names disease, famine, war and suffering be heard, but rather may their moral conduct, merit, wealth, and prosperity increase, and may supreme good fortune and well-being always arise for them. H.H. Dudjom Rinpoche Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Thanks very much. , Dolma <hawaiiansnowlion> wrote: > In regards to how long the rudraksha tree takes to > bear fruit- > > I am a newbie on this list but as a reference > librarian I took this as a challenge. Alas I was able > to find many reputable botanical websites which > mention various Eleocarpus species, none of them > discuss the life-cycle of the tree. Since I work at a > small 4-year college library with a limited botany > collection I wasn't able to find any more specialized > sources. I would suggest contacting a large university > botany department or reference librarian at a science > library, particularly one focusing on tropical > species. This source would not have any commercial > interest in misleading anyone and would be most likely > to give you a truthful answer. I am familiar with the > Lyon Arboretum which is affiliated with the University > of Hawai'i(where I studied), their phone # is > (808)988-0456, fax (808)988-0462, email > lyonarb@h... Hope this is helpful! > > -Dolma > > ===== > At this very moment for the nations and peoples of the earth, may not even the names disease, famine, war and suffering be heard, but rather may their moral conduct, merit, wealth, and prosperity increase, and may supreme good fortune and well-being always arise for them. > > H.H. Dudjom Rinpoche > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2003 Report Share Posted November 15, 2003 Dear Surajji Rudraksa forest is natural forest and beads are collected by Families that make their liveings from protecting and careing for their collection area......many Families own the forest areas that are harvested....then the major distributors set up buying shops in the area of Dingla in the Arum Valley and they buy as the beads are harvested from the Families that collect.......the Beads are then taken to major distributors like Rudra Center for distribution to the world......problem with anglos going to Nepal is the Maoist Guerillas who are still active and take anglos hostage in Nepal so almost all the work has to be done by Native Peoples to the specific countries....Is a Gigantic process to bring the Holy Rudraksa from the Rudraksa Forest in Nepal Thanks and Take Care My Friend DharmaDev In a message dated 11/12/2003 11:31:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, suraj_raghavan writes: > Subj:RBSC : Are Rudrakshas farmed in Nepal > Date:11/12/2003 11:31:21 AM Pacific Standard Time > <A HREF="suraj_raghavan">suraj_raghavan</A> > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > All: > In light of the recent discussions, i got curious and searched in > vain on the Internet so perhaps someone on this group can enlighten > me. Are Rudraksha's "farm raised" in Nepal or are they considered Non- > Wood Forest produce like certain medicinal plants are in India and > the US? If the latter, can anyone go to the naturally occuring > rudraksha areas in Nepal and "pluck" the berries from the trees > themselves, similar to wildrcrafting plants? Thanks! > Suraj > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2003 Report Share Posted November 15, 2003 Thanks for this. I had a Nepali friend in college who said that trekking in the Arun valley is not to be missed. I didn't realise the maoist troubles were in the eastern part of the country as well but thanks for this. Hopefully by the time i visit in a few years time, it'll be safe enough. Appreciate your input. , AumShiningLotus@a... wrote: > Dear Surajji > > Rudraksa forest is natural forest and beads are collected by Families that > make their liveings from protecting and careing for their collection > area......many Families own the forest areas that are harvested....then the major > distributors set up buying shops in the area of Dingla in the Arum Valley and they > buy as the beads are harvested from the Families that collect.......the Beads > are then taken to major distributors like Rudra Center for distribution to the > world......problem with anglos going to Nepal is the Maoist Guerillas who are > still active and take anglos hostage in Nepal so almost all the work has to be > done by Native Peoples to the specific countries....Is a Gigantic process to > bring the Holy Rudraksa from the Rudraksa Forest in Nepal > > Thanks and Take Care My Friend > > DharmaDev > > In a message dated 11/12/2003 11:31:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, > suraj_raghavan@h... writes: > > > > Subj:RBSC : Are Rudrakshas farmed in Nepal > > Date:11/12/2003 11:31:21 AM Pacific Standard Time > > <A HREF="suraj_raghavan@h...">suraj_raghavan@h...</A> > > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabead societiesclub</A> > > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabead societiesclub</A> > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > All: > > In light of the recent discussions, i got curious and searched in > > vain on the Internet so perhaps someone on this group can enlighten > > me. Are Rudraksha's "farm raised" in Nepal or are they considered Non- > > Wood Forest produce like certain medicinal plants are in India and > > the US? If the latter, can anyone go to the naturally occuring > > rudraksha areas in Nepal and "pluck" the berries from the trees > > themselves, similar to wildrcrafting plants? Thanks! > > Suraj > > > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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