Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 When we ask questions, it does not mean we don't know how to pronounce Sanskrit properly :-) , "mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > Here is a question: > > If one does not know how to strike the tongue correctly to say the Sanskrit syllables then how can one pronounce the mantra correctly? > > Indian people do this naturally of course from growing up around those sounds but westerners do not. > > Amazing that no one starts by first learning the correct way to say their Sanskrit ABCs. > - > rajeswara rao > > Friday, November 14, 2003 1:23 AM > Re: RBSC : Michele/Mahamritunjaya Mantra > > > dear Syzenith > > the mahamrityunjay matra matra quoted by you is absolutely correct. but as far as i know sanskrit is sanskrit whether one pronounces it in low or high voice. the chanting of mantra should be clear as far as pronounciation is concerned. just because specific mantras produce specific vibrations in ones body while reciting. and i dont think to spell 'hoom' as 'hung' and 'joom' as 'jung' is stictly correct. i regularly recite the namakam and chamakam while doing the ekarudrabhisheka everyday so i do understand the vibrations that happen within me when i recite. i cannot do it here but i will upload the mahamrityunjay mantra recited by vedic scholars which i have. may be tommorrow. > > regards, > rajeswar rao > > syzenith <syzenith> wrote: > Namaste Michele, > > Sorry for delayed response. > > Lovely to hear you and your lovely boys play & chant the > Mahamritunjaya Mantra everyday and love it. Me too..... > > Must say again I love your website and the designs, very creative. > Where do you obtain the green serpentine from? Its a beautiful > color. Haven't seen them this green in Australia, at least not yet.. > > Here's the mantra rendition by Suresh Wadekar: > > "Om Hoom Joom Saha, Om Bhu Bhuvah Swaha > Om Triyambhakam Yajamahey > Sungandhim Pushti Vardanan > Uruva Kamiva Bandhanan > Mrityor Muksheeya Mamritat > Om Swaha Bhuvah Bhu, Om Saha Joom Hoom Ommmm..." > > For some folks, "Hoom" is pronounced "HuNg" and Joom is "JuNg" when > spoken aloud. In silent repetition, its Hoom & Joom, closer to home. > > Any Sanskrit experts here? Please enlighten us if the above is > wrong, thanks. > > Much love > Sy > > > Sponsor > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard > > > > > Sponsor > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2003 Report Share Posted November 15, 2003 i agree with the comments made. indians ofcourse are brought up in and around the sanskrit sounds so it is slightly easier. but ultimately one has to practice the mantras regularly to become perfect. atleast those mantras which one recites regularly. and to understand the ups n downs in pronunciation he has go to a guru or practice alongwith an audio recitation. even then what i have observed is that the same mantra is pronunced in a totally different manner in sounthern and northern india. i agree that it will be difficult for westerners to pronounce and learn sanskrit mantras very easily but they can do it. i have seen lot of westerners chating like indian vedic scholars at the indian temple festives. so keep chanting the mantras and enjoy the vibrations in yourself. om namah shivaya- shivaya namah om rajeswar rao mahamuni <mahamuni wrote: What you say about Panini is true, but usually one does not approach Panini directly due to its complexity. I disagree with using transliterations though it is often the only way the translator can go as most dont' read devanagiri script. - surajraghavan2002 Friday, November 14, 2003 12:25 PM RBSC : Re: Michele/Mahamritunjaya Mantra Where to strike the tongue has been codified by Panini, arguably the greatest grammarian ever about 2500 years ago. Since then there has been no change in Sanskrit. Paninian grammar delineates Vedic Sanskrit from Classical Sanskrit. It is of course advisable to learn from a native speaker but my point was that you can learn on your own with books and audio tape (you'll of course spend a lot more time doing this). For example even in the noun Panini, the first ni and the second ni are pronounced differently. If you learn the basic rules you'll be able to read a transliteration and pronounce correctly. Quit scaring people, Mahamuni:-) , "mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > Again, oral vs written tradition. No need to even get technical with the terms, though they are true. How to strike the tongue is what is important as I learned from a Baba who was also a Sanskrit adept. He called what he taught me "The Yoga of the Mouth". > > You can't learn to swim by reading a book and pracitising on land. Same applies. > - > surajraghavan2002 > > Friday, November 14, 2003 12:02 PM > Re: RBSC : Michele/Mahamritunjaya Mantra > > > Absolutely true. This is not difficult to learn but without an > understanding of the gutturals, palatals, labials, dentals etc. there > would be no way of saying this right just from reading a > transliteration. As a beginner's book Thomas Egenes(sp?) first book > has a nice picture that shows which part of the mouth region each of > the consonants emerge from and the correct position of the tongue to > facilitate correct pronunciation. > > > > , "mahamuni" > <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > > Here is a question: > > > > If one does not know how to strike the tongue correctly to say the > Sanskrit syllables then how can one pronounce the mantra correctly? > > > > Indian people do this naturally of course from growing up around > those sounds but westerners do not. > > > > Amazing that no one starts by first learning the correct way to say > their Sanskrit ABCs. > > - > > rajeswara rao > > > > Friday, November 14, 2003 1:23 AM > > Re: RBSC : Michele/Mahamritunjaya Mantra > > > > > > dear Syzenith > > > > the mahamrityunjay matra matra quoted by you is absolutely > correct. but as far as i know sanskrit is sanskrit whether one > pronounces it in low or high voice. the chanting of mantra should be > clear as far as pronounciation is concerned. just because specific > mantras produce specific vibrations in ones body while reciting. and > i dont think to spell 'hoom' as 'hung' and 'joom' as 'jung' is > stictly correct. i regularly recite the namakam and chamakam while > doing the ekarudrabhisheka everyday so i do understand the vibrations > that happen within me when i recite. i cannot do it here but i will > upload the mahamrityunjay mantra recited by vedic scholars which i > have. may be tommorrow. > > > > regards, > > rajeswar rao > > > > syzenith <syzenith> wrote: > > Namaste Michele, > > > > Sorry for delayed response. > > > > Lovely to hear you and your lovely boys play & chant the > > Mahamritunjaya Mantra everyday and love it. Me too..... > > > > Must say again I love your website and the designs, very > creative. > > Where do you obtain the green serpentine from? Its a beautiful > > color. Haven't seen them this green in Australia, at least not > yet.. > > > > Here's the mantra rendition by Suresh Wadekar: > > > > "Om Hoom Joom Saha, Om Bhu Bhuvah Swaha > > Om Triyambhakam Yajamahey > > Sungandhim Pushti Vardanan > > Uruva Kamiva Bandhanan > > Mrityor Muksheeya Mamritat > > Om Swaha Bhuvah Bhu, Om Saha Joom Hoom Ommmm..." > > > > For some folks, "Hoom" is pronounced "HuNg" and Joom is "JuNg" > when > > spoken aloud. In silent repetition, its Hoom & Joom, closer to > home. > > > > Any Sanskrit experts here? 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