Science Discovers the Physiological Value of Continence :

November 24, 2003

Dear Yogiji:

It is good to hear from you.

Thank you for this beautiful explanation..

Can only speak from personal experience that I agree with you..the

two are one and inseparable..dancing in joy and bliss..

Gauri Shankar rudraksha as well as 2 mukhi has helped me realize this

deeper.

I may be mistaken But I believe in one of the commentaries to the

Shiva Sutras there is a teaching of Shakti being the vowels and Shiva

being the consonants.

Take care.

Kanti

, ashwini yogi

<ashwiniyogi> wrote:

> Dear Barbara

> Just chanced to read your mail and am taking the liberty to write

something to you.

> Hinduism is not a religion but a way of life it covers every aspect

of the physical and the etheric life.If you have chanced to interact

with so called hindus who are just asking god for money all the time

it is strictly theirs and your problem.

> You could be practicing any religion and still be practising the

various aspects of Hinduism,a little problem would only arise if you

eat beef and pork,for no other reason but that they are a heavy

energy and certain advanced etheric sadhnas are not conducive to this

kind of food.

>

> I really dont blame you for your thoughts as what travels to your

part of the world travels in search of money mostly to evolve

spiritually you do not need to go anywhere.

> As for Shiva and Shakti they are both a part of each other,in the

word SHIVA if you remove the I[EE]it signifies a corpse[sHVA]

pronounced shava.The I is the shakti and is used in the sahkti

mantras;AIM<HRIM<KLIM<SHRIM ETC.

> Similarly the Shakti needs a vehicle to act out and that is Shiva.

> Blessings

> Yogi Ashwini

>

> "Barbara J. Spencer" <barbjs@s...> wrote:

> Dear Cindy,

>

> I really do not know whether I have or am evolving spiritually. I

think,

> sometimes, I would have evolved spiritually more if I had remained a

> Christian. My best friend is a Christian, and she is always doing

things for

> people. I was a born again Christian at one time, and the problem

with

> Hinduism as I see it is that people are always asking God for

wealth, etc.,

> and it sort of turns me off; also, I never know what caste I am,

and I sort

> of think that I am always an outcaste even though I do Hindu

devotions, and

> that sort of bothers me, also. For a long time in history, men said

that

> women did not have souls. I'm sorry, but I really do think that men

hate

> women, and I don't think that Shiva and Shakti are equal--I think

that

> Shakti is more than Shiva. No man loves his equal--they only love

more than

> their equals. Because Shiva loves Shakti, this shows that She is

more than

> equal to Him. I am His devotee though, but I do not trust His male

devotees.

> Guess I am just paranoid, and there is no need to listen to me. I'm

a bit

> nuts.

>

> Barbara

>

> -

> "Cindy Sullivan" <ganeshee@v...>

> <>

> Sunday, November 23, 2003 1:54 PM

> Re: RBSC : Re: Science Discovers the Physiological Value of

> Continence :

>

> Do you really believe that?

> Just ask what your heart of heart says.

> Blessings,

> Cindy

>

> Barbara J. Spencer wrote:

>

> >What happens to women who do not have semen then? Does that mean

that they

> >do not evolve spiritually?

> >

> >Barbara

> >

> >-

> >"zarembadavid" <rudra@g...>

> ><>

> >Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:29 AM

> >RBSC : Re: Science Discovers the Physiological Value of

Continence

> >:

> >

> >WARNING : Reading my reply to DharmaDev can ,At Worst, lead to :

> >

> >High Blood Pressure ,Nightmares, Low Energy for Several

Days ,Anger ,

> >Disstrust , etc

> >

> >Are You Ready to Take That Risk ??

> >

> >If not ,if you feel sensitive to day , Please STOP READING NOW ,

> >go to another Message or Sign Out NOW !

> >

> >DharmaDev ,

> >

> >Your ,suprising to me , Question was :

> >

> >"...could you tell me why we should read an article on

continence...."

> >

> >Because :

> >

> >If the same energy that is used for momentory amature pleasures

like

> >sex ,is also the same energy that is used for the development of

> >brain and Higher States of Consciousness ,it makes it clear that

self

> >controll and not wasting of semen ,that is used as food for the

brain

> >by Kundalini mechanism in Higher States of Consciousness , is of

> >greate Importance

> >

> >To always have High Moral and self controll is ,to some extent,

> >dependent of the energy that is avalable to the body system

> >

> >if one wastes to much energy ,not much is left to mantain

the "inner

> >balance " of moral ,self control,brain power, etc.

> >

> >we are here in the Rudraksha group for self development , using

> >Rudraksha as a help ,but the real goal ,that many do not like to

> >accept , is that the tru goal for us and the brain itself is what

> >we call " Higher States of Consciousness " or Turiya ,Samadhi ,etc.

> >

> >But Rudraksha itself may not always be enouth ,to protect us ,it is

> >our responsibility to follow DHARMA of the plan of evolution

> >

> >Since the more our nervous system and brain develops ,it will need

> >a better and more powerful energy to feed it self ,and that energy

> >is best available in semen ,that is one of the reason why every tru

> >religion and spiritual path stresses the importance for not

waisting

> >this energy ,

> >

> >If under ,Sadhana - Intense Spiritual Practice , we succed in the

> >awakening of Kundalini or if the new center in the brain "suddenly"

> >opens and there is not enouth energy , to feed the new

> >development ,it can lead to Insanity and all possible mental

problems.

> >

> >I feelt it was of much importance to make this onfo avalable to all

> >the group members ,

> >

> >Now will follow some Quotes from Gopi Krishna from my website on

this

> >Subject :

> >

> >- The precious organic substance and the concentrated energy,

present

> >in the seed, instead of being ejected for a momentary pleasure, can

> >also be used, when the rejuvenation process is at work, as a tonic

> >nourishment for thé nerves and the brain cells......

> >

> >By no other external feeding known to science can this wonderful

> >transformation be brought about.A depleted store of reproductive

> >energy in an individual can prove seriously detrimental when

> >kundalini is suddenly aroused.In fact, one of the reasons why a

> >spontaneous activation of the Serpent power often ends in mental

> >disorder is the fact that, in addidon to a faulty genetic heritage

or

> >unhealthy organic structure of the body, the excess expenditure of

> >the reproductive essences can cause ravages in the system which

make

> >adaptation to the new activity of the brain impossible

> >

> >Immoderation in erotic pleasure is a sin against Nature that can

have

> >far-reaching consequences.It is a colossal blunder to yield

> >unrestrainedly to the demands of sexual desire. The cost paid for

the

> >momentary thrill of the erotic sensation, when it exceeds a healthy

> >limit, is so high that generations can suffer for the unbridled

lust

> >of one libidinous ancestor.

> >

> >The need for a highly balanced and regulated life, as a

> >prerequisite for cosmic consciousness, was recögnized in India from

> >very early days.The emphasis of all great religions on a chaste,

> >consecrated life stems from the same necessity....

> >The emphasis on chastity, or Brahmacharya, common to most

religions,

> >is clearly rooted in the fact that, in the case of earnest seekers

> >after illumination, the need for the preservation of seed is

> >imperative to meet the exigencies of the awakening.....

> >

> >Unless sexual energy is needed in some way for spiritual

disciplines,

> >why should any prophet or any saint or any spiritual teacher

> >recommend celibacy as a method of reaching God ?

> >Unless the energy is used, what is the need of conserving it ?

> >

> >Since part of the life energy, produced by the reproductory

> >mechanism, is needed for the evolutionary buildup, it is obvious

> >that this part cannot be utilized for amatory purposes

> >without detriment to the latter....

> >

> >The ignorance prevailing at the present moment about this vital

issue

> >can be gauged from the fact that in the thousands of modem books on

> >marital happiness, conjugal relationship and the psychology of sex,

> >there is rarely if ever, any hint about the fact that a part of

this

> >energy goes to nourish the brain and is essentially needed for

> >its growth....

> >

> >There is not even a hint in any of the thousand of books on

> >psychology or other sciences or philosophy to show that a higher

> >dimension of consciousness is possible or has been experienced at

> >rare intervals by some fortunate members of the race.....The fact

> >that the evolutionary and the reproductive processes work side by

> >side in human bodies, and the main reservoir öf the energy is the

> >same, it is of utmost importance that this position should be

> >verified empirically to educate the rank and file in the essential

> >rudiments of the knowlege....

> >

> >The source behind the evolution of the brain is the reproductive

> >system....Normally the sex energy is used for procreative purposes,

> >but nature has designed it for evolutionary purposes also....The

same

> >organic device which serves for generation acts for evolution

> >also.The reproductive apparatus has its own set of nerves which

> >integrate with the entire nervous system of the body.There is no

> >doubt that a direct link exists between the brain and the

> >reproductive organs.On the arousal of Kundalini this connection

> >becomes clearly perceptible....

> >

> >By the arousal of Kundalini we mean the reversal of the

reproductive

> >system and its functioning more as an evolution ary than as a

> >reproductive mechanism.......

> >

> >There can be no doubt that an enhanced activity of the brain cannot

> >be possible without the consumption of more psychic energy or

> >alternately, without the action of a more potent form of this

energy

> >than is used by average human beings....

> >

> >There is also no doubt that a new activity starts in the brain, due

> >to the opening of a normally closed chamber to the influence

> >of an fine biochemical essence, rising from the reproductive region

> >through the spinal cord.This extract serves as nourishment for the

> >highly enhanced activity leading to an expanded state of

> >consciousness....

> >

> >Subjectively, this flow of the essences, culled from the

reproductive

> >organs, can be distinctly felt in the space behind the palate, from

> >the middle point to the root of the tongue.It pours into the

cranium

> >in an ambrosial stream so exquisitely pleasurable that even the

> >rapture of love pales into insignificance when compared to it.....

> >

> >The descriptions contained in the Tantras and other treatises on

> >Hatha-Yoga, about " the dripping ambrosia on the union of Shakti

with

> >Shiva " in actual fact denote the streaming of the reproductive

> >secretions into the brain, on the opening of the central canal with

> >the arousal of the kundalini power. These secretions are then drawn

> >up as if a powerful suction is applied from above to the nerves

> >lining the "kanda" (the triangular space below the navel) and

> >the "muladhara cakra" (the plexus close to the anal opening).

> >This marks the initiation of a new organic activity in the body in

> >which the brain, the nervous system, and the reproductive organs

are

> >the main participants in an effort to fashion the whole system to a

> >new awareness beyond the normal limits of human consciousness....

> >

> >I am making these statements from full personal experience of this

> >extraordinary psychophysiological development.This upward flow of

the

> >reproductive essences into the cranium through the spinal canal is

> >definitely somatic in nature.The body of the awakened individual

> >develops a new biological function and a new form of awareness

with a

> >supersensory channel of cognition...

> >

> >Everything about the disclosures I am making I have experienced

> >myself.I have confirmed my experience with the traditional concepts

> >relating to this esoteric science that have been known and verified

> >during the past thousands of years.Hence I am as sure of the authen

> >ticity of what I state and of the ultimate acceptance of this truth

> >as I am of the fact that summer is invariably followed by autumn

and

> >winter by spring.....

> >

> >What I am revealing is not knowledge picket up by study or gained

> >through reflection but gathered from my day-to-day experience for

> >years on end....

> >

> >For 30 years I said nothing because I wanted to confirm that my

> >experience was real experience, and not a delusion and that it is

> >corroborated by ancient tradition.I made a study of those

traditions,

> >and I found that my experience is in conformity to the

> >ancient traditions.After that I wrote my first book, and now in my

> >80th year I solemnly say this and this alone is the answer to

modern

> >crises :

> >

> >The brain is evolving and present science doesn't know

> >how.There is complete darkness about it because you cannot see this

> >evolution of the brain.By external observation can see only neurons

> >and their connections. It has to be seen from internal observation

by

> >awakening this power.When this power is awakened, then you are

> >able to observe the eternal working of the brain and that shows you

> >that you are still evolving.There are devices in our brain, in

> >consciousness, which when we digress we invite a calamity or

> >disaster.

> >

> >I am writing more for the future than for the present generations

of

> >humanity. Today, the overhanging threat to the survival of the

> >race is the result of mental rust which we are not able to clean

the

> >rust of evil custom and habit, of conservatism, chauvinism, dogma,

> >pride, prejudice, and bias.This rust is as much in evidence in the

> >ranks of science as in those of religion, in communists as much as

in

> >capitalists, in democracies as much as in monarchies or

> >dictatorships.It is this mental rust which is carrying humanity to

> >the brink of disaster, awake and alert to the danger, and yet

> >powerless to avert it. All our social customs are the customs of

this

> >mental rust......

> >

> >The target of evolution is to create a highly extended state of

> >awareness in all human beings.....

> >

> >I stand alone in the disclosures that I am making.There is every

> >likelihood that both from the sides of religion and science

eyebrows

> >will be raised and open doubts expressed at what I say. This will

be

> >only a transitöry phase, as every important discovery in the realm

of

> >knowledge almost invariably took the world by surprise.........

> >

> >I say this because, at this time, the learned world is in a state

of

> >confusion about the purpose of human life.....

> >

> >The ideas I am expressing appear implausible to skeptical

scientists

> >because they have become too accustomed to ignoring this wide gulf

in

> >their own knowledge.They do not know that the territory of Yoga

> >begins where the boundary of modern psychology ends....

> >

> >A storm is brewing in the psychological depths of the race to bring

> >about radical changes in all spheres of human life.It will be so

> >radical and unthought-of that scholars will be taken completely by

> >surprise at the onslaught of superconscious forces of which they

had

> >no knowledge at all. It is this approaching revolution in the life

of

> >individuals and the nations that will bear clinching testimony to

> >what I say..... - END

> >

> >Now DharmaDev ,

> >

> >Can you realy say that my info has no Imoprtance for you or any

other

> >member of this group ????

> >

> >Please Members , Speak Up !!!

> >

> >I am ready to take the Heat !

> >

> >-----

> >

> >----

> >

> >,

> >AumShiningLotus@a... wrote:

> >

> >>Dear Davidji

> >>

> >>Namaskar My Friend and thank you for posting.....certainly wont

> >>

> >offend anyone

> >

> >>here however could you tell me why we should read an article on

> >>

> >continence

> >

> >>Thanks and Take Care

> >>

> >>DharmaDev

> >>

> >>In a message dated 11/22/2003 6:27:44 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> >>rudra@g... writes:

> >>

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November 24, 2003

The two are one and inseparable.

Barbara

-

"kantikakini" <thunderheals

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