Guest guest Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 Dear Friends Is it true that all rudraksa should be blessed as soon as they are harvested from trees and also if rudraksha are not blessed as soon as they are harvested they are said not to perform anything? Do all rudraksha cure problems irrespective of time? Ohm Namah Shivai Vandana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 WHAT'S IN YOUR MIND YOU ARE MORE INPORTANT THAN A BEADS OR THE BEADS ARE MORE INPORTANT THAN YOU? ONLY FAITH MAKE THOSE BEADS WORK WITHOUT YOU IT'S NOTHING JUST A SEED FROM A TREE THINK ABOUT IT! ALL IS ABOUT FAITH..... v992003 <no_reply> wrote:Dear Friends Is it true that all rudraksa should be blessed as soon as they are harvested from trees and also if rudraksha are not blessed as soon as they are harvested they are said not to perform anything? Do all rudraksha cure problems irrespective of time? Ohm Namah Shivai Vandana To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 Dear Vandanaji Namaskar Mitra and thank you for your message......The caretaker Families of the Rudraksa Tree Forest actually Bless the Trees throughout the year and especially at the time of growth and before the time of Harvest......Although the Holy Rudraksa give all the Blessings of their presiding Dieties without the Blessing or Energizeing of the Mankind it is a proper showing of respect to the Blessed Relationship of the Wearing that a Blessing Ceremony is done at any time and especially before the first wearing......The Holy Rudraksa give the Blessings of Lord Siva irrespective of Time and affect past present and future generations of ones Family Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum Dhanyavaad cha Pranams Mitra DharmaDev In a message dated 11/28/2003 2:03:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, no_reply writes: > Subj:RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > Date:11/28/2003 2:03:11 AM Pacific Standard Time > <A HREF="no_reply">no_reply</A> > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > Dear Friends > > Is it true that all rudraksa should be blessed as soon as they are > harvested from trees and also if rudraksha are not blessed as soon as > they are harvested they are said not to perform anything? > > Do all rudraksha cure problems irrespective of time? > > Ohm Namah Shivai > Vandana > > > > > > ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 Dear Vandana Ji Yes is correct that you misunderstood Joseji No one owns or controls the Holy Rudraksa.....the Relationship between the Mankind and Womankind is Divine and cared for by Lord Siva the Devas and the Devis Thanks and Take Care Mitra DharmaDev In a message dated 11/28/2003 6:52:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, no_reply writes: > Subj:Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > Date:11/28/2003 6:52:19 AM Pacific Standard Time > <A HREF="no_reply">no_reply</A> > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > My understanding about josejis email is that if we have power over > rudraksa it is faith? Please correct me if i misunderstood your > email. Is this correct? Any input will be aprreciated. > > Ohn Namah Shivai > Vandana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 Dear Stargate Dont know where you got this mis information however these statements you are makeing aretotally opposite what the Holy Books teach....the Siva Purana and SriMadDeviBhavat need to be read before these kind of statement would be made and they would not be made Goodness gracious I have seldom seen someone describe the The Holy Rudraksa that are The Tears of Lord Siva Lord Rudra as only a seed from a tree Wishing you and Family the Best and wishing you Great Knowledge Please consider reading Siva Purana and SriMadDeviBhagavat Thanks and Take Care Mitra DharmaDev In a message dated 11/28/2003 2:13:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, STARGATE40 writes: > Subj:Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > Date:11/28/2003 2:13:30 AM Pacific Standard Time > <A HREF="STARGATE40">STARGATE40</A> > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > WHAT'S IN YOUR MIND YOU ARE MORE INPORTANT THAN A BEADS OR THE BEADS ARE > MORE INPORTANT THAN YOU? ONLY FAITH MAKE THOSE BEADS WORK WITHOUT YOU IT'S > NOTHING JUST A SEED FROM A TREE THINK ABOUT IT! ALL IS ABOUT FAITH..... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 Dear Barbaraji Thanks for your message 1 All Rudraksa have life whether they are perfect or have physical damage 2 mention of ceremonies on page 38 of Rudraksa is not clear reference....page 38 of what Rudraksa 3 Pujas and Ceremonies for same purposes sometimes differ slightly throughout India...yes you can do Rudraksa Puja at Home......Rudra Center India has CD for this Rudra Puja and Dharan and is on our Home page Thanks and Take Care DharmaDev Arya In a message dated 11/28/2003 10:36:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, barbjs writes: > Subj:Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > Date:11/28/2003 10:36:50 AM Pacific Standard Time > <A HREF="barbjs">barbjs</A> > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > Dear Aum Shining Lotus, > > Even though the rudraksha bought from the Rudra Center are blessed, what > about those rudraksha that I purchase here in stores--I mean real rudraksha, > not just the ones which look something like rudraksa. Yesterday, I bought a > string of 100 real rudraksha, but 11 at least were broken and have to be > returned or discarded. The problem, however, is, "Do these have life, being > deprived, in all probablility of the ceremonies described on page 38 of > 'Rudraksa'"? Are the ceremonies performed by Rudra Center the ceremonies on > page 38? Can one do these ceremonies oneself at home, and could you please > describe what to do exactly? > > Thank you for you help. > > Barbara > > > - > <AumShiningLotus > <> > Friday, November 28, 2003 9:27 AM > Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > > > > Dear Vandanaji > > > > Namaskar Mitra and thank you for your message......The caretaker Families > of > > the Rudraksa Tree Forest actually Bless the Trees throughout the year and > > especially at the time of growth and before the time of > Harvest......Although the > > Holy Rudraksa give all the Blessings of their presiding Dieties without > the > > Blessing or Energizeing of the Mankind it is a proper showing of respect > to the > > Blessed Relationship of the Wearing that a Blessing Ceremony is done at > any > > time and especially before the first wearing......The Holy Rudraksa give > the > > Blessings of Lord Siva irrespective of Time and affect past present and > future > > generations of ones Family > > > > Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum > > > > Dhanyavaad cha Pranams Mitra > > > > DharmaDev > > > > In a message dated 11/28/2003 2:03:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > no_reply writes: > > > > > > > Subj:RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > > > Date:11/28/2003 2:03:11 AM Pacific Standard Time > > > HREF="no_reply">no_reply > > > Reply-to:HREF=""> > rudrakshabeadsociet > iesclub > > > To:HREF=""> > rudrakshabeadsociet > iesclub > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends > > > > > > Is it true that all rudraksa should be blessed as soon as they are > > > harvested from trees and also if rudraksha are not blessed as soon as > > > they are harvested they are said not to perform anything? > > > > > > Do all rudraksha cure problems irrespective of time? > > > > > > Ohm Namah Shivai > > > Vandana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 My understanding about josejis email is that if we have power over rudraksa it is faith? Please correct me if i misunderstood your email. Is this correct? Any input will be aprreciated. Ohn Namah Shivai Vandana , JOSE REYMUNDI <STARGATE40@S...> wrote: > BECAUSE IT'S WAS A OLD TRADICTION FROM THOUSAND YEARS AGO IN ASIA AND INDIA THAT COME FROM BRAHMAN PEOPLES THEY CALL GODS BECAUSE THEY REACH THE WAY TO THE SPIRITUAL WISDON AND THEY PERFORM MIRACLES BY THEY FAITH SO THE BEAD IS THE OBJECT AND THE POWER IS FAITH OVER IT.THAT'S WHY THOSE BEADS ARE MIRACLES PERFORM BY FAITH. > > v992003 <no_reply> wrote:So why do we particularly choose to wear worship only Rudraksa? Why > don't we wear any thing else? > > Ohm Naham Shivai > Vandana > > , JOSE REYMUNDI > <STARGATE40@S...> wrote: > > WE HAVE A UNIVERS INSIDE US WE HAVE SO MANY MYSTERIES WE HAVE > ENERGY WE PROJECT THAT POSITIVE ENERGY TO ANY MATTER THEN ANY MATTER > WORK LIKE WHAT EVER WE WANT.ALL MATTER HAVE A SAME ENERGY FIELD IN > NATURE WE AND NATURE WORK TOGETHER TO PRODUCE ANYTHING. > > > > v992003 <no_reply> wrote:There are two issues here > we are discussing about - > > > > 1) Rudraksha seeds do not have any power > > 2) You need to have faith in them > > > > Can you have faith in something that is not powerful? > > > > Ohm Naham Shiavai > > Vandana > > > > > > > > > > , JOSE REYMUNDI > > <STARGATE40@S...> wrote: > > > BECAUSE THEY HAVE FAITH IN THOSE BEADS!., AND BECAUSE IS A OLD > > TRADICTION BUT THINK ABOUT IT WITHOUT HUMANS BEINGS THOSE BEADS ARE > > SIMPLE SEEDS FROM A TREE DON'T HAVE ANY SENSE IS LIKE IF YOU WALK > > AROUND A PARK AND FIND A ROCK AND YOU EVER CARING WITH IT AND YOU > > EVER THINK THAT ROCK GOING TO BRING YOU LUCK THAT COULD BE HAPPEN > YOU > > KNOW WHY? BECAUSE YOU PUT FAITH OVER IT. > > > > > > v992003 <no_reply> wrote:Is this true that > rudraksa > > seed do not have any power? So, why do so > > > many people wear them? > > > > > > Ohm Naham Shivai > > > Vandana > > > > > > > > > , JOSE REYMUNDI > > > <STARGATE40@S...> wrote: > > > > YOU JUST HAVE FAITH IN THOSE BEADS THAT'S WHY YOU WEARING IT > > BUT > > > IF YOU DON'T HAVE FAITH THOSE BEADS ARE JUST SEED WITHOUT ANY > > POWER. > > > IS SIMPLE LOGIC. > > > > > > > > v992003 <no_reply> wrote:Dear Joseji > > > > > > > > So, if you say that it's all about faith than one does not need > > to > > > > wear or worship rudraksa! > > > > > > > > Ohm Naham Shivai > > > > > > > > Vandana > > > > > > > > > > > > , JOSE > REYMUNDI > > > > <STARGATE40@S...> wrote: > > > > > WHAT'S IN YOUR MIND YOU ARE MORE INPORTANT THAN A BEADS OR > THE > > > > BEADS ARE MORE INPORTANT THAN YOU? ONLY FAITH MAKE THOSE BEADS > > WORK > > > > WITHOUT YOU IT'S NOTHING JUST A SEED FROM A TREE THINK ABOUT > > IT! > > > > ALL IS ABOUT FAITH..... > > > > > > > > > > v992003 <no_reply> wrote:Dear Friends > > > > > > > > > > Is it true that all rudraksa should be blessed as soon as > they > > > are > > > > > harvested from trees and also if rudraksha are not blessed as > > > soon > > > > as > > > > > they are harvested they are said not to perform anything? > > > > > > > > > > Do all rudraksha cure problems irrespective of time? > > > > > > > > > > Ohm Namah Shivai > > > > > Vandana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 Dear Aum Shining Lotus, Even though the rudraksha bought from the Rudra Center are blessed, what about those rudraksha that I purchase here in stores--I mean real rudraksha, not just the ones which look something like rudraksa. Yesterday, I bought a string of 100 real rudraksha, but 11 at least were broken and have to be returned or discarded. The problem, however, is, "Do these have life, being deprived, in all probablility of the ceremonies described on page 38 of 'Rudraksa'"? Are the ceremonies performed by Rudra Center the ceremonies on page 38? Can one do these ceremonies oneself at home, and could you please describe what to do exactly? Thank you for you help. Barbara - <AumShiningLotus <> Friday, November 28, 2003 9:27 AM Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > Dear Vandanaji > > Namaskar Mitra and thank you for your message......The caretaker Families of > the Rudraksa Tree Forest actually Bless the Trees throughout the year and > especially at the time of growth and before the time of Harvest......Although the > Holy Rudraksa give all the Blessings of their presiding Dieties without the > Blessing or Energizeing of the Mankind it is a proper showing of respect to the > Blessed Relationship of the Wearing that a Blessing Ceremony is done at any > time and especially before the first wearing......The Holy Rudraksa give the > Blessings of Lord Siva irrespective of Time and affect past present and future > generations of ones Family > > Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum > > Dhanyavaad cha Pranams Mitra > > DharmaDev > > In a message dated 11/28/2003 2:03:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, > no_reply writes: > > > > Subj:RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > > Date:11/28/2003 2:03:11 AM Pacific Standard Time > > <A HREF="no_reply">no_reply</A> > > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsociet iesclub</A> > > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsociet iesclub</A> > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > Dear Friends > > > > Is it true that all rudraksa should be blessed as soon as they are > > harvested from trees and also if rudraksha are not blessed as soon as > > they are harvested they are said not to perform anything? > > > > Do all rudraksha cure problems irrespective of time? > > > > Ohm Namah Shivai > > Vandana > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 Dear Barbarji: Please check the File Folder on the Discussion Group Home page that has the Message Subject Index. Am pretty certain someone has posted a rudraksha puja that is in the archives that can be done at home. Take care. Kanti , "Barbara J. Spencer" <barbjs@s...> wrote: > Dear Aum Shining Lotus, > > Even though the rudraksha bought from the Rudra Center are blessed, what > about those rudraksha that I purchase here in stores--I mean real rudraksha, > not just the ones which look something like rudraksa. Yesterday, I bought a > string of 100 real rudraksha, but 11 at least were broken and have to be > returned or discarded. The problem, however, is, "Do these have life, being > deprived, in all probablility of the ceremonies described on page 38 of > 'Rudraksa'"? Are the ceremonies performed by Rudra Center the ceremonies on > page 38? Can one do these ceremonies oneself at home, and could you please > describe what to do exactly? > > Thank you for you help. > > Barbara > > > - > <AumShiningLotus@a...> > <> > Friday, November 28, 2003 9:27 AM > Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > > > > Dear Vandanaji > > > > Namaskar Mitra and thank you for your message......The caretaker Families > of > > the Rudraksa Tree Forest actually Bless the Trees throughout the year and > > especially at the time of growth and before the time of > Harvest......Although the > > Holy Rudraksa give all the Blessings of their presiding Dieties without > the > > Blessing or Energizeing of the Mankind it is a proper showing of respect > to the > > Blessed Relationship of the Wearing that a Blessing Ceremony is done at > any > > time and especially before the first wearing......The Holy Rudraksa give > the > > Blessings of Lord Siva irrespective of Time and affect past present and > future > > generations of ones Family > > > > Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum > > > > Dhanyavaad cha Pranams Mitra > > > > DharmaDev > > > > In a message dated 11/28/2003 2:03:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > no_reply writes: > > > > > > > Subj:RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > > > Date:11/28/2003 2:03:11 AM Pacific Standard Time > > > <A > HREF="no_reply">no_reply</A> > > > Reply-to:<A > HREF="">rudrakshabead societ > iesclub</A> > > > To:<A > HREF="">rudrakshabead societ > iesclub</A> > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends > > > > > > Is it true that all rudraksa should be blessed as soon as they are > > > harvested from trees and also if rudraksha are not blessed as soon as > > > they are harvested they are said not to perform anything? > > > > > > Do all rudraksha cure problems irrespective of time? > > > > > > Ohm Namah Shivai > > > Vandana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 Hi Dharmadev, The book, "Rudraksa," by Subas Rai, from which people have been quoting. It also says on page 24 that defective rudraksa should be avoided: "A man should avoid in the following order: a Rudraksa without a mouth, or one pierced by an inscet, or one with the image on it broken, or one with the berries sticking to one another, for a rosary." Barbara - <AumShiningLotus <> Friday, November 28, 2003 10:54 AM Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > Dear Barbaraji > > Thanks for your message > > 1 All Rudraksa have life whether they are perfect or have physical damage > > 2 mention of ceremonies on page 38 of Rudraksa is not clear > reference....page 38 of what Rudraksa > > 3 Pujas and Ceremonies for same purposes sometimes differ slightly > throughout India...yes you can do Rudraksa Puja at Home......Rudra Center India has CD > for this Rudra Puja and Dharan and is on our Home page > > Thanks and Take Care > > DharmaDev Arya > > In a message dated 11/28/2003 10:36:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, > barbjs writes: > > > > Subj:Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > > Date:11/28/2003 10:36:50 AM Pacific Standard Time > > <A HREF="barbjs">barbjs</A> > > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsociet iesclub</A> > > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsociet iesclub</A> > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > Dear Aum Shining Lotus, > > > > Even though the rudraksha bought from the Rudra Center are blessed, what > > about those rudraksha that I purchase here in stores--I mean real rudraksha, > > not just the ones which look something like rudraksa. Yesterday, I bought a > > string of 100 real rudraksha, but 11 at least were broken and have to be > > returned or discarded. The problem, however, is, "Do these have life, being > > deprived, in all probablility of the ceremonies described on page 38 of > > 'Rudraksa'"? Are the ceremonies performed by Rudra Center the ceremonies on > > page 38? Can one do these ceremonies oneself at home, and could you please > > describe what to do exactly? > > > > Thank you for you help. > > > > Barbara > > > > > > - > > <AumShiningLotus > > <> > > Friday, November 28, 2003 9:27 AM > > Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > > > > > > > Dear Vandanaji > > > > > > Namaskar Mitra and thank you for your message......The caretaker Families > > of > > > the Rudraksa Tree Forest actually Bless the Trees throughout the year and > > > especially at the time of growth and before the time of > > Harvest......Although the > > > Holy Rudraksa give all the Blessings of their presiding Dieties without > > the > > > Blessing or Energizeing of the Mankind it is a proper showing of respect > > to the > > > Blessed Relationship of the Wearing that a Blessing Ceremony is done at > > any > > > time and especially before the first wearing......The Holy Rudraksa give > > the > > > Blessings of Lord Siva irrespective of Time and affect past present and > > future > > > generations of ones Family > > > > > > Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum > > > > > > Dhanyavaad cha Pranams Mitra > > > > > > DharmaDev > > > > > > In a message dated 11/28/2003 2:03:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > > no_reply writes: > > > > > > > > > > Subj:RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > > > > Date:11/28/2003 2:03:11 AM Pacific Standard Time > > > > HREF="no_reply">no_reply > > > > Reply-to:HREF=""> > > rudrakshabeadsociet > > iesclub > > > > To:HREF=""> > > rudrakshabeadsociet > > iesclub > > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends > > > > > > > > Is it true that all rudraksa should be blessed as soon as they are > > > > harvested from trees and also if rudraksha are not blessed as soon as > > > > they are harvested they are said not to perform anything? > > > > > > > > Do all rudraksha cure problems irrespective of time? > > > > > > > > Ohm Namah Shivai > > > > Vandana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to: > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2003 Report Share Posted November 28, 2003 Dear Barbaraji yes understand....thanks for this Mitra......remembering here that the question asked concerned whether or not damaged or perfect.......authentic Rudraksa...... still have a life of their own.....answer is yes certainly they do...and at the same time the Siva Purana and SriMandDeviBhagavat state to only select the most perfect for wearing so this is the Path we follow at Rudra Centre Thanks and Take Care DharmaDev In a message dated 11/28/2003 11:57:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, barbjs writes: > Subj:Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > Date:11/28/2003 11:57:26 AM Pacific Standard Time > <A HREF="barbjs">barbjs</A> > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > Hi Dharmadev, > > The book, "Rudraksa," by Subas Rai, from which people have been quoting. It > also says on page 24 that defective rudraksa should be avoided: > > "A man should avoid in the following order: a Rudraksa without a mouth, or > one pierced by an inscet, or one with the image on it broken, or one with > the berries sticking to one another, for a rosary." > > Barbara > - > <AumShiningLotus > <> > Friday, November 28, 2003 10:54 AM > Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > > > > Dear Barbaraji > > > > Thanks for your message > > > > 1 All Rudraksa have life whether they are perfect or have physical damage > > > > 2 mention of ceremonies on page 38 of Rudraksa is not clear > > reference....page 38 of what Rudraksa > > > > 3 Pujas and Ceremonies for same purposes sometimes differ slightly > > throughout India...yes you can do Rudraksa Puja at Home......Rudra Center > India has CD > > for this Rudra Puja and Dharan and is on our Home page > > > > Thanks and Take Care > > > > DharmaDev Arya > > > > In a message dated 11/28/2003 10:36:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > barbjs writes: > > > > > > > Subj:Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > > > Date:11/28/2003 10:36:50 AM Pacific Standard Time > > > <A HREF="barbjs">barbjs</A> > > > Reply-to:HREF=""> > rudrakshabeadsociet > iesclub > > > To:HREF=""> > rudrakshabeadsociet > iesclub > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Aum Shining Lotus, > > > > > > Even though the rudraksha bought from the Rudra Center are blessed, what > > > about those rudraksha that I purchase here in stores--I mean real > rudraksha, > > > not just the ones which look something like rudraksa. Yesterday, I > bought a > > > string of 100 real rudraksha, but 11 at least were broken and have to be > > > returned or discarded. The problem, however, is, "Do these have life, > being > > > deprived, in all probablility of the ceremonies described on page 38 of > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 Dear Stargate Thanks for your replies....no need to take this further because these answers are not direct answers to the specific questions asked....wishing you and Family the Best Mitra Thanks and Take Care DharmaDev In a message dated 11/29/2003 4:06:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, STARGATE40 writes: > Subj:Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > Date:11/29/2003 4:06:18 PM Pacific Standard Time > <A HREF="STARGATE40">STARGATE40</A> > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > holy because by faith it was create by master shiva faith is the real power > inside us.if you liberate that power you will do miracles. > > AumShiningLotus wrote:Dear Stargate > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 holy because by faith it was create by master shiva faith is the real power inside us.if you liberate that power you will do miracles. AumShiningLotus wrote:Dear Stargate Dont know where you got this mis information however these statements you are makeing aretotally opposite what the Holy Books teach....the Siva Purana and SriMadDeviBhavat need to be read before these kind of statement would be made and they would not be made Goodness gracious I have seldom seen someone describe the The Holy Rudraksa that are The Tears of Lord Siva Lord Rudra as only a seed from a tree Wishing you and Family the Best and wishing you Great Knowledge Please consider reading Siva Purana and SriMadDeviBhagavat Thanks and Take Care Mitra DharmaDev In a message dated 11/28/2003 2:13:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, STARGATE40 writes: > Subj:Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > Date:11/28/2003 2:13:30 AM Pacific Standard Time > <A HREF="STARGATE40">STARGATE40</A> > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > WHAT'S IN YOUR MIND YOU ARE MORE INPORTANT THAN A BEADS OR THE BEADS ARE > MORE INPORTANT THAN YOU? ONLY FAITH MAKE THOSE BEADS WORK WITHOUT YOU IT'S > NOTHING JUST A SEED FROM A TREE THINK ABOUT IT! ALL IS ABOUT FAITH..... > > To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 we give the power by faith! v992003 <no_reply> wrote:My understanding about josejis email is that if we have power over rudraksa it is faith? Please correct me if i misunderstood your email. Is this correct? Any input will be aprreciated. Ohn Namah Shivai Vandana , JOSE REYMUNDI <STARGATE40@S...> wrote: > BECAUSE IT'S WAS A OLD TRADICTION FROM THOUSAND YEARS AGO IN ASIA AND INDIA THAT COME FROM BRAHMAN PEOPLES THEY CALL GODS BECAUSE THEY REACH THE WAY TO THE SPIRITUAL WISDON AND THEY PERFORM MIRACLES BY THEY FAITH SO THE BEAD IS THE OBJECT AND THE POWER IS FAITH OVER IT.THAT'S WHY THOSE BEADS ARE MIRACLES PERFORM BY FAITH. > > v992003 <no_reply> wrote:So why do we particularly choose to wear worship only Rudraksa? Why > don't we wear any thing else? > > Ohm Naham Shivai > Vandana > > , JOSE REYMUNDI > <STARGATE40@S...> wrote: > > WE HAVE A UNIVERS INSIDE US WE HAVE SO MANY MYSTERIES WE HAVE > ENERGY WE PROJECT THAT POSITIVE ENERGY TO ANY MATTER THEN ANY MATTER > WORK LIKE WHAT EVER WE WANT.ALL MATTER HAVE A SAME ENERGY FIELD IN > NATURE WE AND NATURE WORK TOGETHER TO PRODUCE ANYTHING. > > > > v992003 <no_reply> wrote:There are two issues here > we are discussing about - > > > > 1) Rudraksha seeds do not have any power > > 2) You need to have faith in them > > > > Can you have faith in something that is not powerful? > > > > Ohm Naham Shiavai > > Vandana > > > > > > > > > > , JOSE REYMUNDI > > <STARGATE40@S...> wrote: > > > BECAUSE THEY HAVE FAITH IN THOSE BEADS!., AND BECAUSE IS A OLD > > TRADICTION BUT THINK ABOUT IT WITHOUT HUMANS BEINGS THOSE BEADS ARE > > SIMPLE SEEDS FROM A TREE DON'T HAVE ANY SENSE IS LIKE IF YOU WALK > > AROUND A PARK AND FIND A ROCK AND YOU EVER CARING WITH IT AND YOU > > EVER THINK THAT ROCK GOING TO BRING YOU LUCK THAT COULD BE HAPPEN > YOU > > KNOW WHY? BECAUSE YOU PUT FAITH OVER IT. > > > > > > v992003 <no_reply> wrote:Is this true that > rudraksa > > seed do not have any power? So, why do so > > > many people wear them? > > > > > > Ohm Naham Shivai > > > Vandana > > > > > > > > > , JOSE REYMUNDI > > > <STARGATE40@S...> wrote: > > > > YOU JUST HAVE FAITH IN THOSE BEADS THAT'S WHY YOU WEARING IT > > BUT > > > IF YOU DON'T HAVE FAITH THOSE BEADS ARE JUST SEED WITHOUT ANY > > POWER. > > > IS SIMPLE LOGIC. > > > > > > > > v992003 <no_reply> wrote:Dear Joseji > > > > > > > > So, if you say that it's all about faith than one does not need > > to > > > > wear or worship rudraksa! > > > > > > > > Ohm Naham Shivai > > > > > > > > Vandana > > > > > > > > > > > > , JOSE > REYMUNDI > > > > <STARGATE40@S...> wrote: > > > > > WHAT'S IN YOUR MIND YOU ARE MORE INPORTANT THAN A BEADS OR > THE > > > > BEADS ARE MORE INPORTANT THAN YOU? ONLY FAITH MAKE THOSE BEADS > > WORK > > > > WITHOUT YOU IT'S NOTHING JUST A SEED FROM A TREE THINK ABOUT > > IT! > > > > ALL IS ABOUT FAITH..... > > > > > > > > > > v992003 <no_reply> wrote:Dear Friends > > > > > > > > > > Is it true that all rudraksa should be blessed as soon as > they > > > are > > > > > harvested from trees and also if rudraksha are not blessed as > > > soon > > > > as > > > > > they are harvested they are said not to perform anything? > > > > > > > > > > Do all rudraksha cure problems irrespective of time? > > > > > > > > > > Ohm Namah Shivai > > > > > Vandana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > To send an email to: - > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > To send an email to: - > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2003 Report Share Posted November 29, 2003 you no understand my point of view my dear friend. AumShiningLotus wrote:Dear Stargate Thanks for your replies....no need to take this further because these answers are not direct answers to the specific questions asked....wishing you and Family the Best Mitra Thanks and Take Care DharmaDev In a message dated 11/29/2003 4:06:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, STARGATE40 writes: > Subj:Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > Date:11/29/2003 4:06:18 PM Pacific Standard Time > <A HREF="STARGATE40">STARGATE40</A> > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > holy because by faith it was create by master shiva faith is the real power > inside us.if you liberate that power you will do miracles. > > AumShiningLotus wrote:Dear Stargate > > To send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 Dear Stargate yes I certainly understand your point of views and it is a good one......for you at this time in your life....will try to explain every person is an individual with free choice and at a different place in time and space with their Learning and Knowledge........ even though we all live together in same environment on this planet your choice of method of commicateing at this time of life seems to be indirect........meaning not directly answering a question or comment..... directly............. or dealing specifically with the specific subject matter discussed Because of this then there is a difficulty in communication that results...........meaning it makes it really difficult to communicate in a straight line has nothing to with your beliefs when I said this didnt need to go any further with discussion............had to do with the fact that it takes too much time to try and communicate in this matter Answering by referring to another line of related thought instead of directly answering is mostly wasting time for all people concerned.......the politicians do this and we see how much time this wastes The Tradition of question and answer is clear......if a person has the Knowledge and Ability to ask you a question or comment on your statements to encourage a reply then you are required to respect this and clearly answer by staying on the specific subject of the question.......if the person has the ability to ask then it has to be recognized and respected that they are at a place in Time..... where they have the ability recieve the clearest answer so they can Act on this If you give them an answer that doesnt pertain directly to the question asked then the person is only confused........confusion has then been created at a time when a person is open to the true and meaningful answer.......... so the person answering has done an injustice to the person who has asked the question..........reasons for answering in an indirect manner have been identified and vary and we really dont need to discuss this at this point because although it is important....it is another discussion There is only one way to properly answer in any Tradition.....clearly and specificly so that the person who asks the question can leap forward to Accomplishment in Quantum Leaps immediately The only way we can properly give all the Mankind and Womankind Justice is if we give the most complete direct answer to the question asked as fast and clearly as we can so that we further Evolution as fast as we can.................If we dont do this then we are not completely performing our Duty of Service to the Mankind and Womankind I simply had expectations that you might stay on the subject I was asking you about instead of wandering........ .instead of dealing with the specific matter being discussed......instead your answers wander to other subjects of the Highest Importance........ that are related to the discussion If we were to have a true exchange of information in a disussion a person would have to answer questions directly...........I commented that your statements do not follow the Holy Books specific to The Holy Rudraksa .......you stated the Mankind gives the Rudraska their Power through Faith......and this is not what the Holy Books state When you replied to my comments you didnt continue this conversation................instead of answering comments directly you Praised the Glories of Almighty God Lord Siva and that is most commendable and proper Still your comments in praise of Lord Siva do not answer why your beliefs dont follow the Siva Purana specific to the Holy Rudraksa.....Holy Books specifically state the Holy Rudraksa give the Blessings of Lord Siva with or without Mantra or Faith Since this is where you are in your life at this time...... with method of communication.......... it is really not my place to try and ask you to please communicate on the subject in a clearer fashion........this is simply the method you have chosen to communicate and that is accepted Dont know many who communicate this way and I dont communicate in this manner because it takes to much time.....in the time it takes to communicate with one person in this manner a person can help 10 people by simply staying on the subject of the question asked or comments made Hopeing you know that I understand that your Faith in God is Perfect.......... and that I was only questioning the fact that you werent answering some of my comments directly and specificly regarding why your beliefs were different from the Holy Books Although you have not told me directly..........after all your replies I am seeing you are most definitely a person who is Hindu and believes in Sanatana Dharma.......due to the fact that your replies have not stayed on the subject there are few on this group that know why you make statements about the Holy Rudraksa that are contrary to the Holy Books............. as these Holy Records are the first written Knoweledge that shows us the way to Happy Successful Life and Enlightenment and Moksa Hope this make sense to you Mitra Thanking you for posting here on our group site Wishing you and Family the Best of Health Happiness Success and Prosperity Dhanyavaad cha Pranams Mitra S R DharmaDeva Arya In a message dated 11/29/2003 10:19:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, STARGATE40 writes: > Subj:Re: RBSC : Blessings for rudraksha > Date:11/29/2003 10:19:33 PM Pacific Standard Time > <A HREF="STARGATE40">STARGATE40</A> > Reply-to:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > To:<A HREF="">rudrakshabeadsocietiesc\ lub</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > you no understand my point of view my dear friend. > > AumShiningLotus wrote:Dear Stargate > > Thanks for your replies....no need to take this further because these > answers > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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