Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 hello everyone! i hope you're all having a great week and are all looking forward to an uplifting weekend. i know it might be a little off-topic, but i was hoping that someone blessed with an understanding of the science of mantras could answer a question i have: as you all have taught me, the mantra of Shiva, Supremely-Victorious- Over-Death, is "Om Hoom Joom Sah, Om Bhu Bhuvaha Swaha, Om Triambakam Yajamahey, Sungandhim Pushti Vardanam, Urvar kamiva Bandhanan, Mrityor Muksheeya Mamritat, Swaha Bhuvaha Bhu Om, Sah Joom Hoom Om." the mantra seems to turn itself inside out in a sense -- it moves forward, then repeats the same sequence of sounds backwards. i've noticed that some others have used other mantras in this way, e.g., "om namah shivay shivay namah om." since mantras are sonic expressions of transcendental energy, i was wondering -- what are the energetic effects are of a mantra modified in this way? what is the core difference between a mantra recited simply first-to-last and a mantra recited first-to-last-then-last-to- first? can one treat any/all mantras in this way? thank you for answering! if this subject has been treated before, please kindly direct me to the appropriate post, as the RBSC library of knowledge is difficult to scour. best, allen atuazon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Namaste Allen, Just a humble attempt at answering your question: --------------- In some traditions, the repetition is straight forward as in "Triyambhakam Yajamahey, Sungandhim Pushti Vardanam, etc......" The mantra described by you is a version with the "Lock Effect". A mantra repeated with the "Lock Effect" (as mentioned by Sri DharmaDev Archarya), magnifies the mantra's many times over. A 'lock effect' can also be likened to "coming full circle", like a serpent curled in a circle with its tail in its mouth. Say you're sewing..... You've begun and ended the stitches. But to make sure they don't fray or come off easily, you go over the stictches backwards with the needle. IMVHO, metaphorically-speaking, the Lock Effect "holds" the mantra in, keeps it together and intact for it to manifest where it is intended and not elsewhere. Hope this makes sense? I'm not good at explaining mantras Mantras are not regarded as mere "objects" for focusing the mind; it is the "illuminator" of the mind. When reciting mantras, love and respect for the mantra are more important than concentration on the mantra. Mantra sadhana is a very involved and complex science generally comprising two components - Prana Pratistha and Nyasa. The first is intense visualization energized by the mantra (simply put). The second (Nyasa) means to "synchronize" different aspects of a mantra with different aspects of the being, i.e. synchronize forces of the mantra with different limbs and organs of the body. Then again there are different levels of Nyasa (Kara nyasa, Anga nyasa and Vyapaka nyasa). Won't go into this as it will only confound everyone and myself as well I'm befuddled by the immenseness of it all as well. Would take many lifetimes to even glimpse a little futher down the tip of the iceberg. Any further than the above two components, a seeker should look for appropriate guidance by relevant gurus. As mentioned above, I'm useless at explaining mantras so if other respected members and friends wish to comment or share, you are all most welcome -- thanks in advance.. Om Namah Shivaya Sy , "achilles1125" <atuazon@n...> wrote: > hello everyone! > > i hope you're all having a great week and are all looking forward to > an uplifting weekend. > > i know it might be a little off-topic, but i was hoping that someone > blessed with an understanding of the science of mantras could answer > a question i have: > > as you all have taught me, the mantra of Shiva, Supremely- Victorious- > Over-Death, is "Om Hoom Joom Sah, Om Bhu Bhuvaha Swaha, Om > Triambakam Yajamahey, Sungandhim Pushti Vardanam, Urvar kamiva > Bandhanan, Mrityor Muksheeya Mamritat, Swaha Bhuvaha Bhu Om, Sah > Joom Hoom Om." > > the mantra seems to turn itself inside out in a sense -- it moves > forward, then repeats the same sequence of sounds backwards. i've > noticed that some others have used other mantras in this way, > e.g., "om namah shivay shivay namah om." > > since mantras are sonic expressions of transcendental energy, i was > wondering -- what are the energetic effects are of a mantra modified > in this way? what is the core difference between a mantra recited > simply first-to-last and a mantra recited first-to-last-then-last- to- > first? can one treat any/all mantras in this way? > > thank you for answering! if this subject has been treated before, > please kindly direct me to the appropriate post, as the RBSC library > of knowledge is difficult to scour. > > best, > > allen > atuazon@n... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Dearest Sy ji pranams and om namah shivaya very well said about the mantras and the locking effect. rightly, the recitation of mantras,with concentration love and respect for the mantra makes one completely involved in the process. from my experience i believe the when you understand the meaning of the mantra also while chanting it really illuminates your mind and relexation derived is very immense. with regards, rajeswara syzenith <syzenith wrote: Namaste Allen, Just a humble attempt at answering your question: --------------- In some traditions, the repetition is straight forward as in "Triyambhakam Yajamahey, Sungandhim Pushti Vardanam, etc......" The mantra described by you is a version with the "Lock Effect". A mantra repeated with the "Lock Effect" (as mentioned by Sri DharmaDev Archarya), magnifies the mantra's many times over. A 'lock effect' can also be likened to "coming full circle", like a serpent curled in a circle with its tail in its mouth. Say you're sewing..... You've begun and ended the stitches. But to make sure they don't fray or come off easily, you go over the stictches backwards with the needle. IMVHO, metaphorically-speaking, the Lock Effect "holds" the mantra in, keeps it together and intact for it to manifest where it is intended and not elsewhere. Hope this makes sense? I'm not good at explaining mantras Mantras are not regarded as mere "objects" for focusing the mind; it is the "illuminator" of the mind. When reciting mantras, love and respect for the mantra are more important than concentration on the mantra. Mantra sadhana is a very involved and complex science generally comprising two components - Prana Pratistha and Nyasa. The first is intense visualization energized by the mantra (simply put). The second (Nyasa) means to "synchronize" different aspects of a mantra with different aspects of the being, i.e. synchronize forces of the mantra with different limbs and organs of the body. Then again there are different levels of Nyasa (Kara nyasa, Anga nyasa and Vyapaka nyasa). Won't go into this as it will only confound everyone and myself as well I'm befuddled by the immenseness of it all as well. Would take many lifetimes to even glimpse a little futher down the tip of the iceberg. Any further than the above two components, a seeker should look for appropriate guidance by relevant gurus. As mentioned above, I'm useless at explaining mantras so if other respected members and friends wish to comment or share, you are all most welcome -- thanks in advance.. Om Namah Shivaya Sy , "achilles1125" <atuazon@n...> wrote: > hello everyone! > > i hope you're all having a great week and are all looking forward to > an uplifting weekend. > > i know it might be a little off-topic, but i was hoping that someone > blessed with an understanding of the science of mantras could answer > a question i have: > > as you all have taught me, the mantra of Shiva, Supremely- Victorious- > Over-Death, is "Om Hoom Joom Sah, Om Bhu Bhuvaha Swaha, Om > Triambakam Yajamahey, Sungandhim Pushti Vardanam, Urvar kamiva > Bandhanan, Mrityor Muksheeya Mamritat, Swaha Bhuvaha Bhu Om, Sah > Joom Hoom Om." > > the mantra seems to turn itself inside out in a sense -- it moves > forward, then repeats the same sequence of sounds backwards. i've > noticed that some others have used other mantras in this way, > e.g., "om namah shivay shivay namah om." > > since mantras are sonic expressions of transcendental energy, i was > wondering -- what are the energetic effects are of a mantra modified > in this way? what is the core difference between a mantra recited > simply first-to-last and a mantra recited first-to-last-then-last- to- > first? can one treat any/all mantras in this way? > > thank you for answering! if this subject has been treated before, > please kindly direct me to the appropriate post, as the RBSC library > of knowledge is difficult to scour. > > best, > > allen > atuazon@n... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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