Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 Chapter IV It is an easy matter to recognize authentic Rudraksa by its facets or faces or mukhis. Here the descriptive words describeing the different Mukhis seem to be interchangeable and are interpreted to mean the deep lines that are seen from the upper part to the lower part of the Rudraksa and to include the surface areas between the lines Five Mukhi Kaalagni Rudraksa that pacifices planet Jupiter and is seen as the Guru Rudraksa Bead has 5 lines and has total of 5 faces that are between the 5 lines. There is a seed that rests inside the face or surface area found between each of the lines. There are 5 seeds in a 5 Mukhi Rudraksha that would potentialy grow 5 Rudraksa Trees Authentic Rudraksa can easily be recognized by looking at these deep lines or Mukhis and also by observing the exterior surface areas between the lines as the differnt Mukhi Beads have a distinctly different growth pattern of the thorny surface protrusions Sometimes in the authentication process it is necessary to place the Rudraksha Beads under a microscope or look at them with a magnifying glass as there are certain artisans who make higher Mukhi Beads out of the lower Muki Beads meaning they will add lines to sell the Bead for higher price Opposite to this sometimes there are artisans who will fill in the lines of a Nepal Round 3 Mukhi Bead with glue and other material to make it a rare Round One Mukhi Nepal Rudraksa. If the glue is a natural made product then placeing the bead in water that has been boiled and removed from stove will melt the glue and other material out of the lines. If more modern glue is used then chemicals have to be applied to melt the glue and remove the material in the lines Rudraksa have a number of basic shapes and sizes to include round 5 Mukhi Nepal Rudraksa and more Oblong 11 Mukhi Nepal Rudraksa. The Indian 2 Mukhi and 3 Mukhi Beads are oval shaped and a most unique Rudraksa Bead due to the excess of exterior surface area that lends itself to many different design patterns. All the exterior surface areas of the Nepal and Indian Rudraksha seem to look like the exterior surface of the human brain The smallest and most common are usually from Indonesia strung in Japa Malas and are the size of a peppercorn or gram up to about 10mm to 12 mm. Rudraksha then range in size from the smaller 4mm Indonesian Beads to the Giant Collector Nepal Beads of 25mm to 30mm In recent years the Indonesian Marketplace has made the smaller Indonesian Rudraksa into Japa Malas commonly available world wide and misinformation has been spread to the world that the smaller the bead the more powerful it is. This is a marketing attempt by a group of people who are telling people opposite of what is found in the Shiva Purana or any of the other Holy Books we have read In Shiva Purana VidyeshvaraSamhitaa Chapter 25 there is the most accurate information Parts 9 and 10 Rudraksha grown in Gauda Land became great favourites of Shiva. They were grown in Mathuraa, Lankaa, Ayodhayaa, Malaya, Sahya mountain, Kaashi and other places. They are competent to break asunder the clustered sins unbearable to the others as the sacred texts have delcared Part 14 A Rudraksha the size of an Emblic myrobalan ( Dhaatriphala ) is mentioned as the most excellent. One of the size of the fruit of the jujube tree ( Badariphala ) is spoken of as the middleing Part 15 O Parvati lovingly listen to this from a desire for the benefit of the devotees. The meanest of Rudrakshas is of the size of a gram according to this excellent classification Part 16 O Maheshavari even the Rudraksa which is only of the size of the fruit of the jujube accords the benefit and heightens happiness and good fortune Part 17 That which is the size of the emblic myrobalan is conducive to the destruction of all distresses. That which is the size of the Gunjaa ( the berry ) is conducive to the achievement of the fruit of all desires Gauda Desha or Gauda Land according to Skandapuraana was the central part of Bengal extending from Vanga ( Bangladesh ) to the borders of Orissa. Due to overpopulation in recent times and the need for agriculture and wood for fires the Rudraksa Forest seems to have receded to the areas of Nepal and perhaps Tibet as part of the Northern Arun Valley Rudraksa Forest below Mount Everest is also right on the border between Tibet and Nepal. There may be the possibility of Rudraksa Forests in Tibet also Regarding the importance of the size of the Holy Rudraksa it is plain to see from the Shiva Puran that the larger the Rudraksa the more Powerful its values and merits however as is noted in Part 16 even the Rudraksha the size of the fruit of a jujube accords the benefit and heightens happiness and good fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Dear Friend, First thanks for posting such very interesting articles about rudraksha referring to the Vedic text. I have some questions regarding the size of the rudrakha. As always referring to some Indian fruit westerner have no idea. Below are my question from the text given in Chapter IV. Part 14 A Rudraksha the size of an Emblic myrobalan ( Dhaatriphala ) is mentioned as the most excellent. One of the size of the fruit of the jujube tree ( Badariphala ) is spoken of as the middling Question; what is the size of an Emblic myrobalan and fruit of the jujube tree in millimetres ? Part 15 The meanest of Rudrakshas is of the size of a gram; Question; what is the size of a gram ? Thanks very much for any answer. I am pretty sure that many of us will be happy to have a clear idea on that important matter. Pierre - <AumShiningLotus <> Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:09 PM RBSC : Rudraksha Therapy Book I Chapter IV Chapter IV It is an easy matter to recognize authentic Rudraksa by its facets or faces or mukhis. Here the descriptive words describeing the different Mukhis seem to be interchangeable and are interpreted to mean the deep lines that are seen from the upper part to the lower part of the Rudraksa and to include the surface areas between the lines Five Mukhi Kaalagni Rudraksa that pacifices planet Jupiter and is seen as the Guru Rudraksa Bead has 5 lines and has total of 5 faces that are between the 5 lines. There is a seed that rests inside the face or surface area found between each of the lines. There are 5 seeds in a 5 Mukhi Rudraksha that would potentialy grow 5 Rudraksa Trees Authentic Rudraksa can easily be recognized by looking at these deep lines or Mukhis and also by observing the exterior surface areas between the lines as the differnt Mukhi Beads have a distinctly different growth pattern of the thorny surface protrusions Sometimes in the authentication process it is necessary to place the Rudraksha Beads under a microscope or look at them with a magnifying glass as there are certain artisans who make higher Mukhi Beads out of the lower Muki Beads meaning they will add lines to sell the Bead for higher price Opposite to this sometimes there are artisans who will fill in the lines of a Nepal Round 3 Mukhi Bead with glue and other material to make it a rare Round One Mukhi Nepal Rudraksa. If the glue is a natural made product then placeing the bead in water that has been boiled and removed from stove will melt the glue and other material out of the lines. If more modern glue is used then chemicals have to be applied to melt the glue and remove the material in the lines Rudraksa have a number of basic shapes and sizes to include round 5 Mukhi Nepal Rudraksa and more Oblong 11 Mukhi Nepal Rudraksa. The Indian 2 Mukhi and 3 Mukhi Beads are oval shaped and a most unique Rudraksa Bead due to the excess of exterior surface area that lends itself to many different design patterns. All the exterior surface areas of the Nepal and Indian Rudraksha seem to look like the exterior surface of the human brain The smallest and most common are usually from Indonesia strung in Japa Malas and are the size of a peppercorn or gram up to about 10mm to 12 mm. Rudraksha then range in size from the smaller 4mm Indonesian Beads to the Giant Collector Nepal Beads of 25mm to 30mm In recent years the Indonesian Marketplace has made the smaller Indonesian Rudraksa into Japa Malas commonly available world wide and misinformation has been spread to the world that the smaller the bead the more powerful it is. This is a marketing attempt by a group of people who are telling people opposite of what is found in the Shiva Purana or any of the other Holy Books we have read In Shiva Purana VidyeshvaraSamhitaa Chapter 25 there is the most accurate information Parts 9 and 10 Rudraksha grown in Gauda Land became great favourites of Shiva. They were grown in Mathuraa, Lankaa, Ayodhayaa, Malaya, Sahya mountain, Kaashi and other places. They are competent to break asunder the clustered sins unbearable to the others as the sacred texts have delcared Part 14 A Rudraksha the size of an Emblic myrobalan ( Dhaatriphala ) is mentioned as the most excellent. One of the size of the fruit of the jujube tree ( Badariphala ) is spoken of as the middleing Part 15 O Parvati lovingly listen to this from a desire for the benefit of the devotees. The meanest of Rudrakshas is of the size of a gram according to this excellent classification Part 16 O Maheshavari even the Rudraksa which is only of the size of the fruit of the jujube accords the benefit and heightens happiness and good fortune Part 17 That which is the size of the emblic myrobalan is conducive to the destruction of all distresses. That which is the size of the Gunjaa ( the berry ) is conducive to the achievement of the fruit of all desires Gauda Desha or Gauda Land according to Skandapuraana was the central part of Bengal extending from Vanga ( Bangladesh ) to the borders of Orissa. Due to overpopulation in recent times and the need for agriculture and wood for fires the Rudraksa Forest seems to have receded to the areas of Nepal and perhaps Tibet as part of the Northern Arun Valley Rudraksa Forest below Mount Everest is also right on the border between Tibet and Nepal. There may be the possibility of Rudraksa Forests in Tibet also Regarding the importance of the size of the Holy Rudraksa it is plain to see from the Shiva Puran that the larger the Rudraksa the more Powerful its values and merits however as is noted in Part 16 even the Rudraksha the size of the fruit of a jujube accords the benefit and heightens happiness and good fortune To send an email to: Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Dear Pierreji Namaskar Mitra and thanks for message........have never had anyone ask this before..........the size of any fruit has to do with the water it recieves and the environment it is grown in...can have large Goose berries or small goose berries.......gooseberries are Amla Fruit in Chaywanprash..........latin name Emblic myrobalan So any of these fruits berries or seed can be of number of different sizes depending on where grown.....no difinitive answer specific to millimeters Shiva Purana was basicly saying the largest are the best then the middle size then the small are the least.....however even the small are extremely helpful Expert comment from our India Group members would be of great help here however we are still not going to get the sizes down to millimeters as far as I know unless we go back to an ancient weighing system and then try to reference it to millimeters of today hope this helps Thanks DharmaDev In a message dated 1/18/2005 6:28:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, pierrethp writes: > Subj: Re: RBSC : Rudraksha Therapy Book I Chapter IV > 1/18/2005 6:28:29 PM Pacific Standard Time > pierrethp > Reply-to: > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > First thanks for posting such very interesting articles about rudraksha > referring to the Vedic text. I have some questions regarding the size of the > rudrakha. As always referring to some Indian fruit westerner have no idea. > Below are my question from the text given in Chapter IV. > > > > Part 14 > > A Rudraksha the size of an Emblic myrobalan ( Dhaatriphala ) is mentioned as > the most excellent. One of the size of the fruit of the jujube tree ( > Badariphala ) is spoken of as the middling > > > > Question; what is the size of an Emblic myrobalan and fruit of the jujube > tree in millimetres ? > > > > Part 15 > > The meanest of Rudrakshas is of the size of a gram; > > > > Question; what is the size of a gram ? > > > > Thanks very much for any answer. I am pretty sure that many of us will be > happy to have a clear idea on that important matter. > > Pierre - > <AumShiningLotus > <> > Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:09 PM > RBSC : Rudraksha Therapy Book I Chapter IV > > > > Chapter IV > > It is an easy matter to recognize authentic Rudraksa by its facets or faces > or mukhis. Here the descriptive words describeing the different Mukhis seem > to > be interchangeable and are interpreted to mean the deep lines that are seen > from the upper part to the lower part of the Rudraksa and to include the > surface > areas between the lines > > Five Mukhi Kaalagni Rudraksa that pacifices planet Jupiter and is seen as > the > Guru Rudraksa Bead has 5 lines and has total of 5 faces that are between the > 5 lines. There is a seed that rests inside the face or surface area found > between each of the lines. There are 5 seeds in a 5 Mukhi Rudraksha that > would > potentialy grow 5 Rudraksa Trees > > Authentic Rudraksa can easily be recognized by looking at these deep lines > or > Mukhis and also by observing the exterior surface areas between the lines as > the differnt Mukhi Beads have a distinctly different growth pattern of the > thorny surface protrusions > > Sometimes in the authentication process it is necessary to place the > Rudraksha Beads under a microscope or look at them with a magnifying glass > as there > are certain artisans who make higher Mukhi Beads out of the lower Muki Beads > meaning they will add lines to sell the Bead for higher price > > Opposite to this sometimes there are artisans who will fill in the lines of > a > Nepal Round 3 Mukhi Bead with glue and other material to make it a rare > Round > One Mukhi Nepal Rudraksa. If the glue is a natural made product then > placeing > the bead in water that has been boiled and removed from stove will melt the > glue and other material out of the lines. If more modern glue is used then > chemicals have to be applied to melt the glue and remove the material in the > lines > > Rudraksa have a number of basic shapes and sizes to include round 5 Mukhi > Nepal Rudraksa and more Oblong 11 Mukhi Nepal Rudraksa. The Indian 2 Mukhi > and 3 > Mukhi Beads are oval shaped and a most unique Rudraksa Bead due to the > excess > of exterior surface area that lends itself to many different design > patterns. > All the exterior surface areas of the Nepal and Indian Rudraksha seem to > look > like the exterior surface of the human brain > > The smallest and most common are usually from Indonesia strung in Japa Malas > and are the size of a peppercorn or gram up to about 10mm to 12 mm. > Rudraksha > then range in size from the smaller 4mm Indonesian Beads to the Giant > Collector Nepal Beads of 25mm to 30mm > > In recent years the Indonesian Marketplace has made the smaller Indonesian > Rudraksa into Japa Malas commonly available world wide and misinformation > has > been spread to the world that the smaller the bead the more powerful it is. > This > is a marketing attempt by a group of people who are telling people opposite > of what is found in the Shiva Purana or any of the other Holy Books we have > read > > In Shiva Purana VidyeshvaraSamhitaa Chapter 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Dear Respected Alanji Thanks for this............I was thinking about the plum size category also however could not give a millimeter size to the plum size.......this is a good way to describe the sizes though as the Indonesian beads for Japa Malas are size of chick peas and smaller.........then we go to Java Beads that are like Juju berry and then to plum size that is like the Nepal Large Beads Thanks for this Mitra DD In a message dated 1/19/2005 6:36:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, source311 writes: > > > > Hi there - amla fruit is about plum sized... jujube is about cherry sized > and a gram is a chickpea... > > namaste, > alan > > > > >AumShiningLotus > > > > > >Re: RBSC : Rudraksha Therapy Book I Chapter IV > >Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:36:12 EST > > > >Dear Pierreji > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Hi there - amla fruit is about plum sized... jujube is about cherry sized and a gram is a chickpea... namaste, alan >AumShiningLotus > > >Re: RBSC : Rudraksha Therapy Book I Chapter IV >Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:36:12 EST > >Dear Pierreji > >Namaskar Mitra and thanks for message........have never had anyone ask this >before..........the size of any fruit has to do with the water it recieves >and >the environment it is grown in...can have large Goose berries or small >goose >berries.......gooseberries are Amla Fruit in Chaywanprash..........latin >name >Emblic myrobalan > >So any of these fruits berries or seed can be of number of different sizes >depending on where grown.....no difinitive answer specific to millimeters > >Shiva Purana was basicly saying the largest are the best then the middle >size >then the small are the least.....however even the small are extremely >helpful > >Expert comment from our India Group members would be of great help here >however we are still not going to get the sizes down to millimeters as far >as I >know unless we go back to an ancient weighing system and then try to >reference it >to millimeters of today > >hope this helps > >Thanks > >DharmaDev > >In a message dated 1/18/2005 6:28:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, >pierrethp writes: > > > Subj: Re: RBSC : Rudraksha Therapy Book I Chapter IV > > 1/18/2005 6:28:29 PM Pacific Standard Time > > pierrethp > > Reply-to: > > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > First thanks for posting such very interesting articles about rudraksha > > referring to the Vedic text. I have some questions regarding the size of >the > > rudrakha. As always referring to some Indian fruit westerner have no >idea. > > Below are my question from the text given in Chapter IV. > > > > > > > > Part 14 > > > > A Rudraksha the size of an Emblic myrobalan ( Dhaatriphala ) is >mentioned as > > the most excellent. One of the size of the fruit of the jujube tree ( > > Badariphala ) is spoken of as the middling > > > > > > > > Question; what is the size of an Emblic myrobalan and fruit of the >jujube > > tree in millimetres ? > > > > > > > > Part 15 > > > > The meanest of Rudrakshas is of the size of a gram; > > > > > > > > Question; what is the size of a gram ? > > > > > > > > Thanks very much for any answer. I am pretty sure that many of us will >be > > happy to have a clear idea on that important matter. > > > > Pierre > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > <AumShiningLotus > > <> > > Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:09 PM > > RBSC : Rudraksha Therapy Book I Chapter IV > > > > > > > > Chapter IV > > > > It is an easy matter to recognize authentic Rudraksa by its facets or >faces > > or mukhis. Here the descriptive words describeing the different Mukhis >seem > > to > > be interchangeable and are interpreted to mean the deep lines that are >seen > > from the upper part to the lower part of the Rudraksa and to include the > > surface > > areas between the lines > > > > Five Mukhi Kaalagni Rudraksa that pacifices planet Jupiter and is seen >as > > the > > Guru Rudraksa Bead has 5 lines and has total of 5 faces that are between >the > > 5 lines. There is a seed that rests inside the face or surface area >found > > between each of the lines. There are 5 seeds in a 5 Mukhi Rudraksha that > > would > > potentialy grow 5 Rudraksa Trees > > > > Authentic Rudraksa can easily be recognized by looking at these deep >lines > > or > > Mukhis and also by observing the exterior surface areas between the >lines as > > the differnt Mukhi Beads have a distinctly different growth pattern of >the > > thorny surface protrusions > > > > Sometimes in the authentication process it is necessary to place the > > Rudraksha Beads under a microscope or look at them with a magnifying >glass > > as there > > are certain artisans who make higher Mukhi Beads out of the lower Muki >Beads > > meaning they will add lines to sell the Bead for higher price > > > > Opposite to this sometimes there are artisans who will fill in the lines >of > > a > > Nepal Round 3 Mukhi Bead with glue and other material to make it a rare > > Round > > One Mukhi Nepal Rudraksa. If the glue is a natural made product then > > placeing > > the bead in water that has been boiled and removed from stove will melt >the > > glue and other material out of the lines. If more modern glue is used >then > > chemicals have to be applied to melt the glue and remove the material in >the > > lines > > > > Rudraksa have a number of basic shapes and sizes to include round 5 >Mukhi > > Nepal Rudraksa and more Oblong 11 Mukhi Nepal Rudraksa. The Indian 2 >Mukhi > > and 3 > > Mukhi Beads are oval shaped and a most unique Rudraksa Bead due to the > > excess > > of exterior surface area that lends itself to many different design > > patterns. > > All the exterior surface areas of the Nepal and Indian Rudraksha seem to > > look > > like the exterior surface of the human brain > > > > The smallest and most common are usually from Indonesia strung in Japa >Malas > > and are the size of a peppercorn or gram up to about 10mm to 12 mm. > > Rudraksha > > then range in size from the smaller 4mm Indonesian Beads to the Giant > > Collector Nepal Beads of 25mm to 30mm > > > > In recent years the Indonesian Marketplace has made the smaller >Indonesian > > Rudraksa into Japa Malas commonly available world wide and >misinformation > > has > > been spread to the world that the smaller the bead the more powerful it >is. > > This > > is a marketing attempt by a group of people who are telling people >opposite > > of what is found in the Shiva Purana or any of the other Holy Books we >have > > read > > > > In Shiva Purana VidyeshvaraSamhitaa Chapter 25 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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