Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 dear shiv bhakts om namo bhagawate rudraya to put in right perspective, here are the facts. lord brahma's son is sage pulastya. sage pulastya's son is visrasrava. visrasrava's son is ravan. since ravan is brahma's great grandson he is also called ravana brahma. ravan has written ravan samhita which details astrology, various mantras and also tantras for curing diseases. the famous shiva tandava stotram is written by ravan only. lord shiva himself told that ravan is the greatest bhakt among all his disciples. in other words, the status of greatest shiv bhakt to ravan was granted by lord shiva only. several commentators criticise ravan for his astray due to his eyeing another man's wife. if this is the yardstick king of devatas Indra is worse. when indra slept with ahalya by deceit in disguise, sage gautam has given various curses to indra including one that indra would get half the sin of all humans who commit sin of adultery. so one can imagine how much sin indra might have accumulated whereas ravan was granted moksha. there are so many svayambhu shivlingas brought by ravan from mount kailash and the same were worshipped by various sages, gods and even kings of the medieval days. there are some sects of veera shaivas who rever ravan. in the next mails i will detail about each shivling brought by ravan and is now worshipped at which place under what name. in view of the above, i request all shiv bhakts to treat ravan as the greatest shiv bhakt. in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes pandit arjun , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni> wrote: > > Prasadarao Ji, > > Let me answer this to your comments: > > It all depends on your point of view. Let me expound a bit on this. > > First of all, different scriptures say different things. Sometimes they are completely conflicting, sometimes not. So just saying well it says so in such and such sastra, is not really a reason to speak definitively on the subject for all people at all times. Though of course, if it works for you, you can always follow what it says. > > Next, all these current written scriptures have come much later than the oral traditions of this information. These written scriptures were not meant to be studied outside of that Guru Parampara because there are so many subtleties and things that need explaining. To further complicate that situation, not only are there different versions of many scriptures, but different oral lineages state different things as well. > > So the best thing to do, is follow what your Guru has to say on the subject and what feels right for you. > > Now regarding the example of Ravan that you gave. You call him an Asura and describe him as inhuman and that he was punished. Now that is entirely true from one point of view. But there are other points of view on the subject. > > Another point of view looks at Ravan at one of the greatest devotees of the Lord and a Great Yogi. Asuras can be thought of as another race, not just as demons. Hey, Lord Shiva loves to keep their company, so how bad could they be? He did incredible Tapas to achieve the Darshan and Boon of Lord Shiva. He was always thinking of Ram. In fact, Ravan was such a great devotee that the Lord Himself, Incarnate in a human form, came and gave him liberation by crushing him at his heart area under His Lotus Foot. Think about that. He didn't even just shoot him. He placed his Lotus Foot, the source of worship where His energy comes out, and put it on Ravan's heart and released his soul from his body. Hey, I'll take that punishment anyday! > > I could go on, but I think this point is explained fairly enough. In a similiar fashion, some do sadhanas in the cremation grounds. Some eat meat. Some even use sexual acts as part of their sadhana. Some make their whole life their sadhana. So what is impure for one is pure for another, dependent on the point of view. It doesn't make one person right and the other wrong. Both are right, for their own lives, which is all you can worry about and be concerned with. Live and let live. Let us just decide what is right for us and then do that. Let us not comment on what is right for another or tell them that they are wrong, unless they are come and asking us for advice. Then we can express our point of view and they can see if it works for them. > > Are you the body or are you the Atma? The Atma is part of the Paramatma, so how could it ever become impure? It can't. The body is just Bhu. It is the Earth. It will either become dirt again or it will become Vibhuti/Bhasma. Both of these are also pure--at least from my point of view. > > Pranams and Blessings, > > Surya > > > - > prasadarao madhunapantula > > Friday, April 28, 2006 12:10 AM > Re: Power of Rudraksha > > > Respected mahamuni and learned - pranams. > with my limited knowledge & understanding I have, I > would like to state this regarding your statement > "God/Goddess sees all anyway, so how could any act be > "impure"? ". > GOD/GODDESS is ALMIGHTY and sudhdha tatwa. > Its only for human this dwandwa bhava of pure or > impure > good or bad is applicable. So these dos & donts are > prescribed in sastra for humans to srictly believe & > follow sincerely. Almighty has seen actions of > Rama(ideal human) as well as Ravana(Aasura > -inhuman)and so Rama was rewarded and Ravana was > punished as we read history. Let us develop faith in > those results. > I stand to be corrected pl. > M.B.Prasada Rao, Visakhapatnam > > --- Mahamuni <mahamuni> wrote: > > > Here is the explanation of why some people say you > > shouldn't wear your rudraksha to sleep, during sex, > > and while defecating (some say even while > > urinating), while drinking alcohol, while eating > > garlic and onions, and while eating non-veg food: > > > > These are really grouped into two types. The first > > is sex and going to the bathroom. During both these > > actions, prana/energy is leaving the body, and > > through the lower gates, so the body is said to then > > experience "impurity". One is prescribed to take a > > bath after. > > > > The other things on the list, including sleep, fall > > into the category of actions that are tamasic in > > nature. Again leading to a state of impurity. > > > > The whole idea of not wearing your rudraksha during > > these actions is so as to not subject it to these > > "impure" vibrations which occur during these > > actions. We want our rudraksha to just keep getting > > charged with positive vibrations and not assaulted > > with "negative" ones, or even ones that aren't our > > own, like letting someone else touch it. > > > > One is suggested to not even walk into the bathroom > > area while wearing the rudraksha, as this place is a > > place where this type of "impure" act is done again > > and again so it is permeated with those vibrations. > > The same as how a meditation room/area becomes > > filled with holy, spiritual, uplifting vibrations > > and Shakti. > > > > Now one has to decide how they want to go from here. > > Many people say many different things, like you > > shouldn't wear a mala you do japa on. Some say of > > course you should. > > > > God/Goddess sees all anyway, so how could any act be > > "impure"? It is a point of view. Still there are > > benefits to following certain practices and a > > certain effect results from them. You have to > > experience yourself and decide from there. > > > > Bom Mahadev! > > > > Surya > > > > > > - > > Thanasegar Ramasamy > > > > Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:08 PM > > Re: Power of > > Rudraksha > > > > > > Do what you feel that is right to you. The problem > > here is when people say things, they never give > > proper > > explanations. > > > > Why should one not wear to bed, since you never > > know > > when you might have intercourse in bed, so thats > > one > > reason for not wearing it in bed. > > > > But the same thing can be questioned here again, > > if a > > men cant wear his rudraksha to bed, which its > > considered holy, then a Thaali thats considered > > holy, > > how can it be worn to bed? > > > > I've asked this question to many people an non > > could > > answer me. > > > > Its all up to an indivdual on what is right or > > wrong > > to you. It is you whom has to decide. > > > > --- Mahamuni <mahamuni> wrote: > > > > > People say many things. Some people say one > > thing > > > and some people say another. There is no one > > right > > > answer. It all depends on your point of view > > and > > > your approach. Do what feels right to you. > > > - > > > sesha srinivas > > > > > > Monday, April 24, 2006 10:07 PM > > > Re: Power of > > > Rudraksha > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > > > I need a clarification regarding Rudraksha. I > > am > > > wearing a Panchamukhi rudraksha from past 7 > > years. > > > Some people say we are not supposed to wear > > > rudraksha while we go to bed and when we are > > going > > > to have intercourse with woman. Is it true?? plz > > > clarify. > > > > > > Sarvejana Sukhino Bhavantu. > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > > > > > mahadevadvaita <mahadevadvaita> > > wrote: > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > > Namaste, It is indeed the grace of Shiva > > that I > > > worship Shiva and am > > > wearing a Rudraksha today. I bought a > > 12mukhi > > > from Sri Arjun Pandit-ji > > > and on the very first day, I could tell the > > > subtle impact of the > > > Rudraksha. By subtle impact I mean, serenity > > and > > > peace in mind and > > > harmony in the house. There is nothing > > greater > > > in this world then a > > > calm, thinking mind. Such a mind is fit for > > > Karma yoga and further > > > antahakaran shuddhi. The physical impact of > > the > > > 12mukhi was a dull > > > pain in the chest for a day or 2 and it was > > due > > > to power emanating > > > from the anahat chakra. After that, the body > > > gets used to the power > > > and no pain in the chest. > > > > > > My humble pranams to the Shiva in Sri Arjun > > > Pandit-ji and the Lord of > > > wisdom - Lord Dakshinamurthy. > > > > > > with regards, > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- ------------- > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > > > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with > > your > > > buddies all the time. > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- ------------- > > > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group > > "" > > > on the web. > > > > > > b.. 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