Guest guest Posted July 4, 2001 Report Share Posted July 4, 2001 Dear Maharajas and Prabhus, Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. This is the reply to BB Govinda Maharaja's letter: > (Bhakti Brnga) Govinda Swami > 27-Jun-01 06:40 (13:40 +0700) >It seems that the warning message is the work of Airavata dasa. It is >clearly his distasteful style. This is just Maharaja's guess.The letter was written and signed by us. We wonder why Maharaj is deviating from the main issue and attacking Airavata Prabhu. A letter of Acyuta M.das which Maharaj attached to his letter has much more distasteful style and very offencive. Maharaj has taken the side of Acyuta M.das because he doesn't know the full story.Two years ago when Acyuta M.das approached us he complained about Kazakistan devotees and BB Govinda Maharaj. Acyuta M.das told us that although BB Govinda Maharaj became GBC for Turkey instead of preaching there he sent Kazakistan devotees just for collecting money.Acyuta M. das asked Airavata Prabhu to take out of Turkey Kazakistan devotees so he would be able to sell paintings without any competitors.Now because of economical crisis in Turkey he could not continue his business and decided to go around ISKCON temples and collect money under the name of Turkish preaching. Acyuta M.das in that way is very expert in manipulating seniour devotees to get his things done. >I met with Acyuta Madhava in Maypur this year with Basu Ghosh.I know >that >Bhakti Vibhava Swami also met with him. He seems to be a dynamic young >fellow that is growing tired of the abuses of Airavata and his >associates. Acyuta M.das was never abused by us but indeed used us as much as he could and left us leaving behind 600 US dollars debt. If he is "a dynamic young fellow" let him go to Afganistan or other places where there is no preaching going on. Why should he come to Turkey and desroy what has been already developed for many years. >I know that Jayadvaita Maharaja was just present in Turkey. Perhaps he > >could clear the Azerbaijani fog a little on this issue. The Azerbaijani fog was created by Acyuta M.das who came from Azerbaijan. Jayadvaita Maharaja was in Istanbul only for one week and already there were bad responses in newspapers. Particularly Turkish newspaper "Milliyet" wrote very critical article ridiculing Maharaja's programme. Howevere Jayadvaita Maharaja and Acyuta M.das left Turkey and we must face this critisism. In spite of Maharaja's attempts to take away devotees attention from the main subject we again want to draw back your attention and warn you about those two young fellows (Acyuta M.das and Bhakta Amit) who are travelling around ISKCON temples and collecting money under the name of Turkish preaching. Your servants, Amala das Nararatna das _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2001 Report Share Posted July 5, 2001 Dear Maharajs and Prabhus, Please accept my humble obeidances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Namonamaha I would like to say samethig for Amala Prabhus reply to BB Govinda Swami Maharaj regarding me. >Dear Maharajas and Prabhus, > >Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. > >This is the reply to BB Govinda Maharaja's letter: > > > (Bhakti Brnga) Govinda Swami > > 27-Jun-01 06:40 (13:40 +0700) > > >It seems that the warning message is the work of Airavata dasa. It is > >clearly his distasteful style. > >This is just Maharaja's guess.The letter was written and signed by us. >We wonder why Maharaj is deviating from the main issue and attacking >Airavata Prabhu. >A letter of Acyuta M.das which Maharaj attached to his letter has much more >distasteful style and very offencive. >Maharaj has taken the side of Acyuta M.das because he doesn't know the full >story.Two years ago when Acyuta M.das approached us he complained about >Kazakistan devotees and BB Govinda Maharaj. Acyuta M.das told us that >although BB Govinda Maharaj became GBC for Turkey instead of preaching >there >he sent Kazakistan devotees just for collecting money. Becouse of Govinda Maharajs mercy I went to Istanbul for a fist time and during one month I was helping to distributa paintings in Istanbul for Kazakistan Farm Projec as I know turkish and it was saccesfull. Istanbul is really big city and there is 20 million people in Istanbul. There is a planty of companies. After one month distributing I received 600$ and I used that Laksmi for going India for a fist time. That time I did not know anyone in India. I just knew that Airavata das in Mayapur and I said myself that he can guaid me in my spiritual life as he also was from Azerbaijan. Acyuta M. das asked >Airavata Prabhu to take out of Turkey >Kazakistan devotees so he would be able to sell paintings without any >competitors. Airavata is not small boy to do what I am asking him. He has his own intelegent. Why he did it. This is explanation. It is not true. How it is possibl? When I arrived to Mayapur, I said him that I am coming from Istanbul and he knew that I was distributing paintings in Istanbul for Kazakistan yatra. So, he asked me why not now work for us? Let you distribute paintings for us and he start to talk against Govinda Maharaj. That time I had a little laksmi and I should somehow to maintain my life. I was anly 17. I had ability to distribute paintings and I thought, why not to help myself and same time to help them. Airavata das said me that he will give anly 10% from all profit but I was not agree. I asked him 25% and finaly he agreed. Then when I came back I start to distribute paintings. When Kazakistan devotees came here I was so happy with them but I had influnce of Airavata das. When he knew that there is some competition he start to write so many thinks about them to Sesa Prabhu and finaly he made devotees leave turkey. I never asked him to make devotees leav Istanbul. How can I do this. All of them is my friends. Of cours it was Airavadas interest to make devotees leave Istanbul. In fact former Kazakistan temple presidet contacted me to help his with paintings in Istanbul and I was happy to help him with all information. >Now because of economical crisis in Turkey he could not continue >his business and decided to go around ISKCON temples and collect money >under >the name of Turkish preaching. Who can say that Acyuta Madhava das asked me lakmi for Turkey preaching? I never asked anyone for turkish preaching program. This is not my habit. Please Amala das, tell, from which temple and from wich devotee I asked Laksmi for preaching? >Acyuta M.das in that way is very expert in manipulating seniour devotees to >get his things done. > >I met with Acyuta Madhava in Maypur this year with Basu Ghosh.I know > >that > >Bhakti Vibhava Swami also met with him. He seems to be a dynamic young > >fellow that is growing tired of the abuses of Airavata and his > >associates. > >Acyuta M.das was never abused by us but indeed used us as much as he could >and left us leaving behind 600 US dollars debt. If he is "a dynamic young >fellow" let him go to Afganistan or other places where there is no >preaching >going on. Why should he come to Turkey and desroy >what has been already developed for many years. He had already big problems in Azerbaijan temple many years ago when he was president there and becous of he used baku devotees in a bad way, devotees asked him to leave Baku and then he went to Moscow. After Moscow temple asked him to leave there temple also. If he is nice why he had been kicked out from temples? In fact when I was planing to go to Airavata, devotees warned me about him. I am here in Istanbul and not in Afganistan or in other places becous I know flutly turkish and I can do here more that other places. I wanted to help preaching with Airavata das but it was difficult for me to stay with person who has no any LOVE or COMMPASION for othes. > >I know that Jayadvaita Maharaja was just present in Turkey. Perhaps he > > >could clear the Azerbaijani fog a little on this issue. > >The Azerbaijani fog was created by Acyuta M.das who came from Azerbaijan. >Jayadvaita Maharaja was in Istanbul only for one week and already there >were >bad responses in newspapers. Particularly Turkish newspaper "Milliyet" >wrote >very critical article ridiculing Maharaja's programme. Howevere Jayadvaita >Maharaja and Acyuta M.das left Turkey >and we must face this critisism. It is not such a bad article. It just was small view of one writer. It si happening always. But in fact it was wanderfull pragrams and everyone liked it. >In spite of Maharaja's attempts to take away devotees attention from the >main subject we again want to draw back your attention and warn you about >those two young fellows (Acyuta M.das and Bhakta Amit) who are travelling >around ISKCON temples and collecting money under the name of Turkish >preaching. I want to know again, where and form whom we asked money for turkey? I am not saying that I am some spesial person. I am in ignorens and have no any safissiant knowlighe to help people here. All this time I am trying my best to preach love of God to people here. In fact I had no time to study Prabhupadas books carefully becouse of finansial problems. Now it is my desire to study books nicly. I am not saying that Amala or Nararathna or Airavata das is not preaching. In fact they are. All this start when I said my opinion to Nararathna Prabhu about Airavata. And when Airavata he came to know my opinions, he start to act as a small child and write some nonsens letters to my Magazine as Interpoll or as Ahmetturk. In his other letter, they are saying that I made this letters by myself. But why I have to loss my riputation in my job. Becous of this I contacted to Sesa Prabhu and wrote him the situation. This is the letter that Airavata sent to my magazine using interpol acount. ----------------------- -Inter Pol <interpol123 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> <fatos (AT) bestmagazin (DOT) com>Monday, April 23, 2001 3:06 PM Azer Mamadov> INTERPOL!!!>> AZER MAMADOV WANTED BY INTERPOL!!!> >THIS IS OUR 6TH MESSAGE!!!>> WHY YOU DO NOT ANSWERING TO OUR REQUEST?> >PLEASE REPLY!!!> >IF YOU WILL NOT REPLY WE WILL ASK TURKISH POLICE TO CLOSE DOWN YOURMAGAZIN >BECAUSE YOU ARE HIDING KRIMER!!!> >According to our sourses Azer Mamadov are working in your magazin and >staying in room provided by you.>> Please inform us about his whereabouts.> >Thank you.>> INTERPOL!!! This is one of the many letters he sent. He aslo made athother acount and sent this letter wich is not vaisnava bihaver. - Ahmed Turk <ahmedturk0 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> <fatos (AT) bestmagazin (DOT) com> Monday, April 23, 2001 3:30 PM Azer Mamadov >Hi! > >Azar Mamadov took my money and ran away. > >Please tell me where I can find him. and this is the second letter form his this acount. - Ahmed Turk <ahmedturk0 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> <fatos (AT) bestmagazin (DOT) com>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:04 PM Azer Mamadov >FUCK YOU!!! >>WHY YOU DO NOT ANSWERING, FUCKING BEACH!!! > >Hi!>> Azar Mamadov took my money and ran away. > >Please tell me where I can find him. Of course after this letter I had problems in my magazine with my editor. Just this letters showing his level. He is 44 but acting as a small boy. I just want a proper assosation. Vaisnava das dasanu das Acyuta Madhava das _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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