Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 My Dear Vaisnavas, Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada. It's obvious that this boy Sudama missed out. He was not sitting there at Srila Prabhupada's lotus feet in Mayapur in 1975 when he instructed us, his disciples, to become initiating gurus after his departure. He probably wasn't even born yet. And we are supposed to listen to him? What a joke! These "johnny-come-latelies" who were not here when Srila Prabhupada was with us think that they can rewrite the philosophy to suit their own purpose. They claim to be disciples of Srila Prabhupada, but they are not. They have invented a "Srila Prabhupada" according to their own fertile imaginations as the object of their surrender. It's just like when the Bhagavatam describes the liberation of the Mayavadis as "vimukti maninas" or liberation in the mind only. They think they are disciples of Srila Prabhupada, when in fact they devotees only of their minds. It's too bad they are not connecting with the real Srila Prabhupada. Then they would actually taste the transcendental happiness that they are not experiencing now. Compare Back to Godhead Magazine with the IRM's Back to Prabhupada magazine and you'll see who is tasting the nectar and who is tasting the poison. Which magazine is full of venomous Vaisnava aparadha and which magazine is full of the sweet glorification of Krishna and the conscientious explication of Krishna's teachings? Hoping this meets you in good health, Always your humble servant, Sankarshan Das Adhikari Sudama das [sudama (AT) harekrishnatemple (DOT) com] Friday, February 13, 2004 5:05 PM Initiations in ISKCON RE: Pure devotee The IRM did not state that no one was 'competent' to continue the disciplic succession. All that was stated is that Srila Prabhupada never authorized his disciples to become diksa gurus. There is a big difference between being competent to do something and being ORDERED to do so. Beside the simple fact that Prabhupada never authorized any of his disciples to become diksa gurus, one could certainly question the competency of the gurus based on their poor track record. > > Rama Keshava Das [rama.kesava (AT) virgin (DOT) net] > Friday, February 13, 2004 1:59 PM > Sudama das > Cc: Initiations in ISKCON > Re: Pure devotee > > > Actually, Sudama prabhu, the IRM are saying exactly that by claiming > that Srila Prabhupada's disciples are not competent to continue the > disciplic succession. > > Ys., Rama Kesava dasa > > On Friday, February 13, 2004, at 04:34 pm, Sudama das wrote: > > > Dear Sankarsana & Isvara prabhus, and other assembled devotees: > > > > When did the IRM state that Srila Prabhupada could not make > other pure > > devotees? > > > > There seems to be a misconception in ISKCON that once > someone becomes > > a pure devotee that he MUST therefore be a guru. > > > > I don't think the IRM has ever said that Srila Prabhupada could not > > produce a pure devotee disciple. > > > > Ys > > > > Sudama das > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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