Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 On Saturday, May 8, 2004, at 09:18 PM, Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Vedic Astrologer) (USA) wrote: > > >> Aren't you over simplifying? > > It does sound simplistic doesn't it? But feminism has many aspects to > it and > impacts society in many pernicious ways. My intent is not to negate such impacts, I simply want to bring forward my understanding both as a devotee, mother, child birth educator and midwife. Every action brings a reaction, this is basic knowledge. However the effects of conciousness during the primal year are too often disregarded even by devotees. Narada Muni imparted knowledge to Prahlad while he was in the womb. What are today's children exposed to during pregnancy? Music videos just shy of being pornographic, violence, drug use, illicit sex, have you turned on a tv recently? Are pregnant women protecting their fetus from these teachings? Whether garbodhana samskara is performed or not, are the children wanted or "surprises" that are accepted, or refused. There are different levels of elevation of consciousness, from praying devotees, asking the Lord to bless their household with a child to those who conceive as an "unfortunate" result of sex life. > You mention "consciousness at the time of conception." Is it that 50 or > 100 > years ago people in the USA were performing the garbhodhana samskara and > suddenly they have stopped 20-30 years ago yielding so much > varnasankara? Judging by the morality of society 50 years ago, there has been a difference of consciousness in humans being born over the last 50 years. It is interesting that ethologists are seeing a direct correlation between the use of drugs during labor and birth and the rampant use and addiction to drugs in our youth. A mother who chooses to use drugs in labour is 4 times more likely to raise a child who will become addicted to drugs in his youth. There has been no research done (to my knowledge) on the impact of multiple sex partners, or violence during pregnancy, however we understand, both from Prabhupada's teachings and in the secular field, that children, while in the , are very much conscious and aware although trapped in a body that doesn't allow them to express themselves. > > So what has changed? Well one notable event was the rise of feminism in > the > 60s to present. The introduction of drugs and even unconsciousness during birth also started in the US in the middle of the previous century. Again I am not denying that feminism has had an impact, only adding other elements that impact the life of the children born today. > The radical ideology of feminism is against the natural > order (it is an ideology full of internal inconsistencies). They shame > women > who want to be stay-at-home-moms and urge them to take up careers. > Motherhood is looked down upon, as is the maternal instinct. To balance > their careers with family mothers leave their children in daycare > centers > often shortly after having given birth. This disrupts bonding during > early > years, an important factor pointed out in the link you gave us. There is a trend by women to try to reestablish balance: women being able to stay at home. Few women eagerly leave their newborn child. For women to stay at home, they also need husbands who are willing to provide for their families; this is also a problem in our society. Women, at times are forced into apparent feminism as a necessity for survival due to the irresponsible behavior of their partners. In my professional field women I meet would rather stay at home but are not necessarily able too for very long. Some women are pregnant because of promiscuity, others truly were hoping to have found their life's partner but he has left before responsibilities rolled in, other are married to week men that have no sense of what it means to be a husband, provider, protector. A few have the luxury to be able to raise their children at home. The absence of extended family support, is also a problem. > > In the work place it is estimated that 30-50% of women have affairs with > co-workers. These are often adulterous affairs adversely affecting > families > leading to divorces. Children are often conceived as well. (Varna > sankara?) Although two wrongs don't make a right, it would be interesting to know how many men have affairs with co-workers or others.. To put it simply, women are abala, they require protection; but are often taken advantage of. It is imperative that boys be trained to respect all women as mothers expect for their own wives whom they should not only respect but also love, guide and protect. > > With no fault divorces in place in many western countries especially > USA and > Canada women are the main initiators of divorce today often for > frivolous > reasons. No doubt there are many frivolous reasons for divorce. A man would rather leave without initiating divorce procedures as a divorce means either alimony, child support, or both. This is a very complex topic and every case is different. Divorce has nothing to do with Krsna consciousness, neither does illicit sex, wife or child abuse or neglect. They are all here because of the power of Kali Yuga, and our too feeble attempts at preaching. > > Interestingly since it is known that many wives have affairs at the work > place it is now a routine procedure that the husband insists on DNA > testing > of children to establish paternity during divorce proceedings because in > 20-30% of cases the children are not his. (Could this be varna sankara?) Of course it is varna sankara in 20-30% of the cases at least. Could it also be and attempt from the men to avoid child support that will financially cripple them as they try to go on with their lives? Society may be raising independent women but also irresponsible men. Which one came first? There is a vicious circle created that worsens from one generation to the other. The daughter of a ill-protected or abused woman will have a tendency not to depend on men for her protection, maintenance or guidance. While some may wake up one day and decide to become "a feminist", others are, simply because they know no other way to survival. Yasomati dd N. B. Shyamasundara prabhu, regards from my husband and son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.