Excerpt from Bhagavad Gita As It Is defeating ritvikism

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Dear Deepak Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!

 

> Srila Prabhupada made it clear that ANYONE who agreed to chant 16 rounds

> and follow the 4 regulative principles would be his initiated disciple.

 

You provided a lot of quotes, but in none of them Srila Prabhupada said

"I initiate" or "we initiate". He said "is initiated".

 

If you conclude that "is initiated" means "fin the next 10,000 year

initiated by Srila Prabhupada", then this is a circular conclusion as

follows:

 

1. When Srila Prabhupada said "is initiated", he meant "initiated by me"

because at that time he was the only initiator.

 

2. Since by "is initiated" Srila Prabhupada meant "initiated by me", this

means that he will be the only initiator for the next 10,000 years.

 

3. Since Srila Prabhupada will be the only initiator for the next 10,000

years, when he said "is initiated", he meant "initiated by me". So statement

1 is confirmed.

 

 

So Mahaprabhu Caitanya Prabhu's question remains unanswered.

 

ys Ramakanta dasa

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Dear Ramakanta Prabhu

 

PAMHO. AGTSP!

 

You wrote:

 

>You again provided a lot of quotes, but in none of them Srila Prabhupada

>said "I initiate" or "we initiate". He said "is initiated".

 

I already answered that point. Please read again carefully:

 

"Due to the necessity of these activities, WE do not immediately initiate

disciples in the International Society for Krishna Consciousness" (Cc,

Madhya, 15:108, purport).

 

>"kindly answer this one doubt in my mind.

>

>the guru has the right to accept or reject a disciple...even if the ritvik

>system was established in SP time...he could reject a candidate even if

>recommended by someone..

>

>also he may choose to accept someone even if he werent recommended..how can

>this happen now.."

>

>Deepak Prabhu did not even touch this question.

 

With great respect Prabhu, I answered this question in great detail. I

don't propose to spend another half-hour or so repeating my answer since it

is already there for everyone to see. Please read my post again.

 

Nevertheless, Mahaprabhu Caitanya Prabhu has written again, so I will

endeavour to offer one more reply to his points. Thank you.

 

Ys,

Deepak

 

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