Guest guest Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 The whole idea of ritvikism is tantamounts to impersonalism; not accepting the guidance of a physically present guru, on the premise that the previous guru is the best guru. Lord Krishna said one should inquire into the Absolute truth, by approaching a bona fide guru who is coming through the parampara system. The Lord did not said to overlook the parampara and simply goes to the first person at the beginning of the parampara, regardless if you can actually see the person, and have personal interaction with him. We have examples of so many perfect personalities, who though already perfect, still accept initiation of a personally present guru. Ramanujacarya even met Yamunacarya, when the later was in his dying bed, and even received his instructions, but still Ramanucarya accept the initiation from a disciple of Yamunacarya. Madhavacarya, though he actually met Srila Vyasadeva, but still he accept initiation from an earthly physical guru. Since our process is a personal process, where relationship is that of intimacy, initiation into spiritual life from a physically present guru, present the dynamics of spiritual life. Now not only must one accept the shelter of physically present guru, still when that guru passes on, one is requires to continue siksa from physically present guru. Krishna consciousness is such that there is no such a time when the guidance or shelter of a physically present guru would not be needed. Though such needs may be manifested differently according to the maturity of the individual person. My only conclusion all along is that the ritviks are opportunists, have no philosophy; basing their arguments on July 9th letter, which was not even written by Srila Prabhupada. Arguing with them back and forth is sheer waste of time. ys, Isvara dasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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