Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Here follows part of one of the "spicy" articles found in the BTP, GBC do not want their members to read: ************************************************************************* { Taken from BTP Issue 4, page 5} In 1995, the GBC in their wisdom decided to issue a definite document on the Guru issue for ISKCON titled: "Gurus and Intitiation in ISKCON (GBC, 1995),[Henceforwerd to be referred to as GII]. Part of this document was a paper entitled "On My Order Understood", in which the GBC attempted to explain once and for all what Srila Prabhupada's orders were for how initiations in ISKCON would continue after his physical departure. The GBC said of this paper: "The GBC approves of the paper entitled 'On My Order Understood" which establishes as ISKCON law the final siddhanta on Srila Prabhupada's desire for continuing the disciplic succession after the departure of His Divine Grace." [GII, p.1) ................... "The Final Order", the definite position paper of the IRM documenting Srila Prabhupada's position as the Diksa Guru for ISKCON, was written specifically in response to the above GBC paper, taking it as its reference point,....... TFO then goes to dismantle the arguments put forward in GII. After 8 long years, the GBC have finally admitted that their so-called 'final siddhanta' paper, the main target of the TFO's attack was not only not final, but completely bogus, as the following resolution passed this year (2004) at the GBC meetings states: 409. Continuing the Disciplic Succession [statement] WHEREAS: The paper "On My Order Understood" contains assumptions and assertions that, in numerous places, do not match the available evidence from the statements of Prabhupada. And the GBC desires to make a more concise statement, RESOLVED: "On My Order Understood" is replaced as official GBC policy by the following statement: The GBC officially accepts the following conclusions about continuing the disciplic succession: Srila Prabhupada consistently said that his disciples would themselves become spiritual masters. Guru, sadhu and shastra all support this standard way of continuing the disciplic succession. Srila Prabhupada said that his disciples would become "regular Gurus" and that each of their disciples would thus be a "disciple of my disciple". On strength of our Vaisnava tradition and the statements of Srila Prabhupada, the GBC concludes that Srila Prabhupada intended his disciples to become 'regular Gurus'after he physically departed. [GBC Resolution 409,2004] ........................................................, whilst admitting that their paper is basically a fabrication, the GBC are happy to re-state the same conclusions, only this time with no fabricated quotes from Srila Prabhupada to support their position Rather they rest their whole philosophical position on just one piece of evidence: An allusion to one line which Srila Prabhupada speaks on a tape, and which does not even say what they claim. Srila Prabhupada states on May 28th, 1977 the following: "When I order you become Guru, he becomes regular Guru. That's all. He becomes disciple of my disciple". Srila Prabhupada here clearly states that Gurus will emerge only WHEN he gives an order to that effect - "When I order you to become guru" and as the GBC seem now to concede, such an order was never given. For this reason the GBC have had to fabricate the following account: "Srila Prabhupada said that his disciples would become "regular Gurus" and that each of their disciples would thus be a "disciple of my disciple". Please spot the huge difference between what Srila Prabhupada actually says and the GBC fabrication. Srila Prabhupada does NOT say that his disciples "WOULD BECOME regular Gurus". He states that only WHEN he orders them to become Guru, do they become Guru, not that they WOULD become Guru. And the authors of this latest GBC resolution have the cheek to say the paper it replaces contained - 'assertions, that in numerous places do not match the available evidence form the statements of Srila Prabhupada", yet we see their latest effort is no better. In ditching thier 'final siddhanta'paper the GBC have effectively admitted that 'The arguments and evidence which we put forward to reach our conclusion were completely wrong, and we are not offering any alternative argument or evidence, but we still want to say that the conclusion - that we be allowed to operate a Guru program replacing srila Prabhupada - is correct" Thus the GBC's programme is simply to be "Gurus at all cost". First they tried to do it by instituting the Guru Hoax part 1 - the zonal acharya system. When that failed they tried Guru Hoax part 2 - the everyone and anyone can be Guru programme - justified by the now discarded "On My Order Understood" paper. This contiunual changing of position papers to try and keep the "Guru business" on the road was thoroughly condemned by Srila Prabhuapada. "So these rascals will change every year their theology" [srila Prabhupada, morning walk, LA 21/12/73 ***************************************************************** ys KPdd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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