Srila Prabhupada is clearly not the last car on the train

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Quote is from TKG's diary only.

Srila Prabhupada clearly includes his disciples

in this defintion of parampara, not that he's

the last car on the train.

 

 

 

 

failure (AT) pamho (DOT) net [failure (AT) pamho (DOT) net] On Behalf Of Deepak Vohra

Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:53 AM

sda (AT) UltimateSelfRealization (DOT) com; Initiations in ISKCON

RE: Why is the IRM pushing?

 

Dear Sankarsana Prabhu

 

PAMHO. AGTSP!

 

Although I am only intending to discuss with MCd at the moment, I was

intrigued by the following quote you supplied:

 

>"This is the parampara system. My Guru Maharaja pushed me, I am

>pushing you, and you are pushing others. Just like a train."

>--His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada, Sept 4, 1977.

 

Unfortunately, I was not able to find any reference to this quote in Srila

Prabhupada's conversations. I may well have missed it, but there does not

seem to be any conversation dated Sept 4, 1977. Please correct me if I am

mistaken, and please supply a fuller context of what Srila Prabhupada

actually states.

 

The references to this quote that I *did* come across appear in two

near-identical accounts - one in "TKG's Diary" and one in the "Lilamrta":

 

1) TKG's Diary: "After many months of preaching in Communist Europe,

Ghanasyama finally came out. Throughout his travels, his reports had

brought so much pleasure to His Divine Grace. Now he came before Srila

Prabhupada, who asked him to come close. Then with great affection,

Prabhupada stroked his head and neck for a long time. "This is the

parampara system," Srila Prabhupada said. "My Guru Maharaja pushed me, I am

pushing you, and you are pushing others. Just like a train."

 

2) Lilamrta, Vol. 6: "Letters from Ghanasyama in Eastern Europe had brought

Srila Prabhupada repeated pleasure. When Ghanasyama came to England,

therefore, Tamala Krsna brought him before Srila Prabhupada. Calling him

near, Prabhupada stroked his head. "This is the parampara system," he said.

"My Guru Maharaja pushed me, I am pushing you, and you are pushing others.

It is like a train."

 

When read in the full context in which this statement attributed to Srila

prabhupada appears, it is clearly not any sort of endorsement or appointment

of diksa guru successorship as you imply. Aside from that, I would like to

see the SP conversation it actually orginates from, because I just cannot

find it.

 

Thank you.

 

Your servant,

Deepak

 

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