Not Bowing Down is NOT an option / Jagad Guru cannot initiate

[Guest guest]

Krishna Priya Mataji,

PAHMO.

 

I see you changed your mind about leaving us, that now bowing

out is not an option for you. Welcome back!! You have

certainly been one of the key players in keeping this a lively

exciting conference.

 

We have to always remember that not bowing down is also not an

option. Because we are always meant to bow down to Vaisnavas

even if we disagree with them. Even if we disagree with each

other there should be no enmity between us.

 

I just came across a quote I wanted to share with the conference

members:

 

Srila Prabhupada states in Antya 5.85 purport,

 

"A person who knows what is spiritual and what is material

and who is firmly fixed in the spiritual position can be

jagad-guru, the spiritual master of the entire world."

CC Antya 5.85

 

It's interesting to note that according to your ritvik philosophy

even such a jagad-guru that we can become by dint of full

surrender to Srila Prabhupada would not be allowed to initate

disciples.

 

Hoping this meets you well,

Your Servant in the Guru Parampara Camp

 

Sankarshan Das Adhikari

 

 

Krishna Priya (dasi) (Amsterdam - NL) [Krishna.Priya (AT) pamho (DOT) net]

 

Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:08 AM

Deepak Vohra; Madhusudana Dasa; Initiations in ISKCON

Bowing out NOT an option

 

<<<<<"Merely to "smash" the theories of the post-samadhi rttvik people,

then, will not make such theories go away. We must honestly face the

underlying issues.

Who is a bona fide spiritual master? What qualifications must he have? Are

the gurus in ISKCON factually qualified--all of them, some of them, or any

of them? If all or any of them are less than fully fit, what implications

does this have for their disciples and for ISKCON? In ISKCON today, how can

one be sure that the spiritual master to whom one is surrendering is genuine

and infallible? Above all, how can every member of ISKCON be connected with

Srila Prabhupada as his disciple, his follower, in a true and legitimate

sense?>>>>>

 

I fully agree with Madhusudana prabhu. Personally I refuse to accept that I

am going wrong in taking shelter of Srila Prabhupada directly as MY DIKSHA

Guru. Unless the GBC proves that I am mistaken in my understanding, I cannot

simply switch back, as a matter of "required etiquette".

When I rejected my socalled initiating spiritual master, my life should have

become hellish. Instead my spiritual life is becoming better than ever

before..........so how should I explain this? If after all, I was to be an

offender to the vaishnavas seriously questioning this "Initiation Issue"

then surely I would have gotten some reaction, not firm determination to

continue on my path back to Godhead, enthusiasm to chant, to read Srila

Prabhupada's books and above all to preach the glories of Lord Caitanya?

 

your servant,

Krishnapriya dasi