Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 Srila Prabhupada called himself the "Founder-Acharya" of ISKCON, not the Acharya of the ISKCON because he wanted that there should be many Acharyas within ISKCON. He directly ordered us to become acharyas within ISKCON. We humbly request Krishna Priya Mataji to stop presenting all of her concocted gibberish. It's time to put this ritvik nonsense to rest once and for all. Sankarshan Das Adhikari Krishna Priya (dasi) (Amsterdam - NL) [Krishna.Priya (AT) pamho (DOT) net] Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:06 AM Joey301 (AT) aol (DOT) com; Initiations in ISKCON Srila Prabhupad is the Jagat Guru, the rest are just pretending...... <<<<<<<Any of Srila Prabhupada's diciples can initiate new diciples, the succession is there. On the other hand, if Srila Prabhupada wants to be an initiating spiritual master from off of the planet, that is also possible if he has said so. Krsna is in everyone's heart, so a connection from beyond the grave is not impossible. I am sure there will be people that can not accept any living person as perfect guru, but these people may be willing to still follow Srila Prabhupada's instructions via his books or Krsna in their heart. For them, there is Ritvik. On the other hand, the tradition demands a living guru and all of the stories in the Bhagavatam are in that vein and it is here that the more traditional, official future will lie and it is here that ISKCON authority will remain. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....... Dear bhakta Joey, In principle any disciple of Srila Prabhupada CAN initiated their own disciples, but not within ISKCON, as they are doing now. Srila Prabhupada is THE ACHARYA OF ISKCON, he institutionalised Himself as the Acharya and instructed his disciples to carry on with spreading his Movement, continuing to be ritvik and accepting disciples on HIS behalf. Since none of the present gurus in ISKCON want to do that, they should go out of ISKCON and start their own branches. ISKCON is to be Srila Prabhupada's forever and in spite of them misdirecting the movement, I am sure things will be set right one day. Srila Prabhupada is A LIVING ACHARYA. He was not some ghost or God. He came to this earth in the form of human being and he did establish the Ritvik system of INITIATION for ISKCON. A truth which is hard to dawn on many a soul, but which cannot be denied, simply because it would suit the majority of ISKCON members better. I hope this explains my point of view somewhat and I invite reactions of other Ritviks or attrack from the ISKCON Guru Parampara camp. yours in Srila Prabhupada's service, Krishnapriya devi dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 Sankarshan prabhu writes: "because he wanted that there should be many Acharyas within ISKCON." Can you please give a quote for this? "He directly ordered us to become acharyas within ISKCON." Can you please give a quote for this also? thanks ysmsd --- "Sankarsana (das) ACBSP (Austin, Texas - USA)" <Sankarsana.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote: > Srila Prabhupada called himself the > "Founder-Acharya" of ISKCON, > not the Acharya of the ISKCON because he wanted that > there should > be many Acharyas within ISKCON. He directly ordered > us to become acharyas > within ISKCON. We humbly request Krishna Priya > Mataji to stop presenting > all of her concocted gibberish. It's time to put > this ritvik nonsense > to rest once and for all. > > Sankarshan Das Adhikari > > > > Krishna Priya (dasi) (Amsterdam - NL) > [Krishna.Priya (AT) pamho (DOT) net] > > Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:06 AM > Joey301 (AT) aol (DOT) com; Initiations in ISKCON > Srila Prabhupad is the Jagat Guru, the rest > are just > pretending...... > > <<<<<<<Any of Srila Prabhupada's diciples can > initiate new diciples, the > succession is there. On the other hand, if Srila > Prabhupada wants to be an > initiating spiritual master from off of the planet, > that is also possible if > he has said so. Krsna is in everyone's heart, so a > connection from beyond > the grave is not impossible. I am sure there will be > people that can not > accept any living person as perfect guru, but these > people may be willing to > still follow Srila Prabhupada's instructions via his > books or Krsna in their > heart. For them, there is Ritvik. On the other hand, > the tradition demands a > living guru and all of the stories in the Bhagavatam > are in that vein and it > is here that the more traditional, official future > will lie and it is here > that ISKCON authority will remain. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....... > > > Dear bhakta Joey, > > In principle any disciple of Srila Prabhupada CAN > initiated their own > disciples, but not within ISKCON, as they are doing > now. Srila Prabhupada is > THE ACHARYA OF ISKCON, he institutionalised Himself > as the Acharya and > instructed his disciples to carry on with spreading > his Movement, continuing > to be ritvik and accepting disciples on HIS behalf. > Since none of the present gurus in ISKCON want to do > that, they should go > out of ISKCON and start their own branches. ISKCON > is to be Srila > Prabhupada's forever and in spite of them > misdirecting the movement, I am > sure things will be set right one day. > Srila Prabhupada is A LIVING ACHARYA. He was not > some ghost or God. He came > to this earth in the form of human being and he did > establish the Ritvik > system of INITIATION for ISKCON. A truth which is > hard to dawn on many a > soul, but which cannot be denied, simply because it > would suit the majority > of ISKCON members better. > > I hope this explains my point of view somewhat and I > invite reactions of > other Ritviks or attrack from the ISKCON Guru > Parampara camp. > > yours in Srila Prabhupada's service, > Krishnapriya devi dasi > > > > > ----------------------- > To from this mailing list, send an email > to: > Initiations.in.ISKCON-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 Dear Madhusudana Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP! > "He directly ordered us to become acharyas within ISKCON." > > Can you please give a quote for this also? You surely know the answer that Srila Prabhupada gave to a similar question. ys Ramakanta dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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