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Sankarshan prabhu wrote:

 

"The GBC did not make themselve the Absolute

Authority. Srila Prabhupada gave them the position."

 

 

This "Absolute Authority" idea is not exactly true.

 

"He gave them the responsibility to be the executors

of his will."

 

Yes.

 

"Like it or not Srila Prabhupada made them the

authority."

 

This requires some further explaination since this

authority was clearly defined and NOT unlimited or

absolute as Sankarshan prabhu claims. To assist with

the management of ISKCON Srila Prabhupada set up a

Governing Body Commission (hereinafter referred to as

the GBC) as early as 1970. The exact parameters for

how this management should be carried out by the GBC

was set down in the official terms of reference for

the GBC, that were approved by Srila Prabhupada

himself at the 1975 annual general meeting of ISKCON,

which is held every year by the GBC at the ISKCON

headquarters in Mayapura, West Bengal. These are set

out below:

 

"The GBC has been established by His Divine Grace

A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada to represent Him

in carrying out the responsibility of managing the

International Society for Krsna Consciousness of which

He is the Founder-Acarya and supreme authority. The

GBC accepts as its life & soul His divine instructions

and recognises that it is completely dependent on His

mercy in all respects. The GBC has ***no other

function or purpose*** other than to execute the

instructions so kindly given by His Divine Grace

***and preserve and spread His Teachings to the world

in their pure form***." (Definition of GBC, Resolution

1, GBC minutes 1975, emph. added)

 

It is clear from the above, that management by the GBC

was to be carried out under very strict parameters,

with the GBC being responsible for only executing the

instructions directly originating from Srila

Prabhupada, and to *'preserve'* whatever he has given.

There is no scope whatsoever for the GBC to deviate

from these principles, and introduce or teach anything

not expressly taught by Srila Prabhupada.

 

Thus if the GBC are found to have either failed to

execute any instruction given by Srila Prabhupada, or

introduce anything not directly given by Srila

Prabhupada, then they would clearly be in breach of

their authority, and the management of ISKCON would be

brought into disrepute.

 

To summarise, in running ISKCON, the GBC:

 

1.Can ONLY implement instructions directly issued by

Srila Prabhupada:

 

***'The GBC has no other function or purpose than to

execute the instructions so kindly given by His Divine

Grace'***

 

2.The GBC must keep intact and apply ONLY whatever

Srila Prabhupada has taught:

 

****'and preserve and spread His Teachings to the

world in their pure form.' ****

 

Thus unless Srila Prabhupada specifically issued a

different set of instructions for how the GBC must

govern the society post-departure, there would be a

natural continuity in the way ISKCON was managed both

before and after Srila Prabhupada's physical demise,

since management could only be conducted under

teachings and instructions which were already in place

for running the society whilst Srila Prabhupada was

present. The GBC would have no mandate to change these

instructions or introduce their own instructions,

simply because we had now entered the post-departure

time period.

 

That the GBC will also have the ultimate authority for

managing ISKCON post-departure in precisely the manner

given above, is further set out very clearly in Srila

Prabhupada's 'Last Will and Testament'. The first 2

statements both go to confirm that the GBC body must

continue to manage ISKCON post-departure, in exactly

the same manner that was established by Srila

Prabhupada pre-departure. These key defining opening

statements are given below:

 

"1. The Governing Body Commission (GBC) will be the

ultimate managing authority of the entire

International Society for Krishna Consciousness.

 

2. Each temple will be an ISKCON property and will be

managed by three executive directors. The system of

management will continue as it is now and there is no

need of any change."

(Opening Statements, Srila Prabhupada's Last Will and

Testament)

 

Statement 1 makes it clear that the GBC mandate for

managing ISKCON will continue for the rest of ISKCON's

duration. We have already established above that this

mandate can only be exercised within whatever

teachings and instructions had already been given by

Srila Prabhupada pre-departure - this shall alone

guide the management of ISKCON. And this in turn will

effectively mean whatever management was already in

place pre-departure will continue post-departure,

unless separate instructions had been issued to apply

only - and specifically post-departure. The second

statement confirms this explicitly:

 

'The system of management will continue as it is now

and there is no need of any change. '

 

Sankarshan prabhu then proceeds to quote from .... the

purport to CC, Adi Lila 7.83

 

"A sincere student aurally receives the holy name from

the spiritual master, and after being initiated he

follows the regulative principles given by the

spiritual master. When the holy name is properly

served in this way, automatically the spiritual nature

of the holy name spreads; in other words, the devotee

becomes qualified in offenselessly chanting the holy

name. When one is completely fit to chant the holy

name in this way, he is eligible to make disciples all

over the world, and he actually becomes jagad-guru.

Then the entire world, under his influence, begins to

chant the holy names of the Hare Krsna maha-mantra."

 

The key words here are - **"he is eligible"**

 

Who could disagree with this conclusion?

 

However even if qualified, there is still the matter

of authorisation.

 

One can drive a car once one is 17 years old (in the

UK). But separate qualification and then authorisation

is also required. It is not automatic. Qualification

and authorisation must also be there.

Srila Prabhupada taught that specific authorisation

from the predecessor acarya was essential before

anyone could act as a diksa guru:

 

"One should take initiation from a bona fide spiritual

master coming in the disciplic succession, who is

authorised by his predecessor spiritual master. This

is called diksa -vidhana." (S.B. 4.8.54, purport)

 

So where is the authorisation for the present ISKCON

(so-called) diksa-gurus?

 

 

ysmsd

 

 

 

 

--- "Sankarsana (das) ACBSP (Austin, Texas - USA)"

<Sankarsana.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote:

 

> The GBC did not make themselve the Absolute

> Authority. Srila Prabhupada

> gave them

> the position. He gave them the responsibility to be

> the executors of his

> will.

> Like it or not Srila Prabhupada made them the

> authority. They did not make

> themselves

> the authority. Krishnapriya's false claim is pure

> rubbish. She wants to

> stop them

> from executing the service given to them by Srila

> Prabhpuada. Who does she

> think she

> is?

>

> The following is a quote from the purport to CC, Adi

> Lila 7.83

>

> A sincere student aurally receives the holy name

> from the spiritual master,

> and after

> being initiated he follows the regulative principles

> given by the spiritual

> master. When

> the holy name is properly served in this way,

> automatically the spiritual

> nature of the

> holy name spreads; in other words, the devotee

> becomes qualified in

> offenselessly chanting

> the holy name. When one is completely fit to chant

> the holy name in this

> way, he is eligible

> to make disciples all over the world, and he

> actually becomes jagad-guru.

> Then the entire

> world, under his influence, begins to chant the holy

> names of the Hare Krsna

> maha-mantra.

> Krishna Priya (dasi) (Amsterdam - NL)

> [Krishna.Priya (AT) pamho (DOT) net]

>

> Saturday, January 15, 2005 1:40 PM

> Joey301 (AT) aol (DOT) com; Initiations in ISKCON

> Re: Srila Prabhupad is the Jagat Guru, the

> rest are just

> pretending......

>

> Hare Krishna Joey,

> I do not mind you asking me question or not agreeing

> with me or whatever. I

> do mind the socalled close disciples of Srila

> Prahbupada not understanding

> our spiritual master though....

>

> <<<<<I have one more question and then

> I will bow out of this conversation. Suppose you are

> right, and Ritvik was

> Srila Prabhupada's desire. What does it matter? He

> also left the GBC in

> charge.>>>>>

>

> The GBC was meant to carry out the instructions of

> Srila Prabhupada. Since

> they have made themselves into 'absolute authority'

> of ISKCON, there seems

> to be indeed very little that can be done to stop

> them......

>

>

>

>

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