Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 My Dear Mataji Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. I appreciate very much your sincere well-wishes. You are convinced that you are right and I am wrong. I am convinced that I am right and you are wrong. You are depending on dreams which may or may not be authoritative. I am depending on direct personal instructions I received from Srila Prabhupada when he was on the planet. You consider your dreams as being more authoritative than the direct personal instructions I received. I don't depend on dreams. Here's what Srila Prabhupada said about dreams: A person knows what a mountain is, and he knows also what gold is. Out of his desire only, he dreams of a golden mountain, and when the dream is over he sees something else in his presence. He finds in his awakened state that there is neither gold nor a mountain, and what to speak of a golden mountain. >>> from the purport to SB 2.9.2 Because you are desiring to push forward this ritvik idea your mind is concocting that Prabhupada is reconfirming the ritvik philosophy. It's very nice that Srila Prabhupada is instructing you to preach on his behalf. This part of your dream is bona fide. But the part about ritvik is simply your mental concoction like the example Srila Prabhupada gives about the gold mountain. Hoping this meets you in good health and in a cheerful mood, Your eternal well-wisher, Sankarshan Das Adhikari ---CONTACT INFORMATION: Email: sda (AT) UltimateSelfRealizaiton (DOT) Com Telephone: 1-512-835-2121 Address: P.O. Box 143073, Austin, Texas 78714-3073 USA Krishna Priya (dasi) (Amsterdam - NL) [Krishna.Priya (AT) pamho (DOT) net] Tuesday, January 18, 2005 2:27 AM Sankarshan Das Adhikari I am no longer going against Srila Prabhupada - you are!!! Dear Sankarsan prahbu, Pamho. AGTSP. You persist in stating that you are accepting disciples "for the sake of expanding Srila Prabhupada's movement and not out of any desire for followers". This reply was also given to me by my socalled second diksa guru, HH BCS. Yet, I have to strongly disagree with you, with him, all the current "gurus", the GBC and all the apologists of this socalled continued 'regular parampara system' pursued in Iskcon. When I came in contact with Iskcon and with Srila Prabhupada's disciples and books, I was attracted by the purity of the devotees and the excellence of Srila Prahbupada's writings. I recognised him as my eternal spiritual master. When I came to the Temple however, in 1978, after Srila Prabhupada leaving his body I was told that now Srila Prabhupada had been succeeded by 11 of his 'elevated, mahabhagavata' disciples and my only chance of being linked with Srila Prabhupada was by takin initiation from the Acharya of the Zone, I happened to live in, Bhagavan das gosvami. Although I had my doubt regarding how in such a short time people could become pure devotees and in spite of the great opposition from my parents, the hindu community in Holland - the whole body of Priests - from the Sanatan Dharm Sabha, I was still convinced that it was possible......that Srila Prabhupada could have created pure devotees, because of his own purity........ Yet, I was very hesitant to join, but got a dream, in which Srila Prabhupada personally promised me to take care of me, that I should not be afraid.....So, I stood up against my family, against the Hindu Priests and fought for the justification of the Zonal Acharya System. At that time no explanation was given regarding how these people were authorised to become "Gurus" and I was too green to understand such matters in detail. Yet, soon after, the socalled "Mahabhagavata's" started to fall. One, two, three accidental falls is possible and can be excused, but not when it becomes an ongoing thing...........you start to doubt!!! But capsuled in the 'brainwashing practise' of ISKCON, I could not really perceive what was wrong in ISKCON - that something was drastically wrong, I had already understood. Seeing the documents/transcrips of conversations etcetera explaining how Srila Prabhupada had only appointed Ritviks, who thought they were appointed to act as GURU in his physical absence, I began to understand the great Guru Hoax, that has taken place in 1977 and which has been tried to cover up in 1986 in the name of 'large scale reform of the movement". It is a hype from beginning to end and I feel truly embarrassed with the whole thing and cheated. In the meantime, Srila Prabhupada never stopped giving me direct instructions through dreams. One thing he told me is "No matter how advanced you think you have become in KC, always go back to the basics." And last night Srila Prabhupada appeared in my dream and confirmed to me that he did establish the Ritvik system and wanted it continued in ISKCON - urging me to continue preaching on his behalf. So, as you can see, I do not have to wait till going back to Godhead in order to ask Srila Prabhupada the question you suggested me to ask him when I get there, as Srila Prabhupada is here and personally guiding me. And he confirmed that I am not going against his instructions, rather I fought myself out of the trap of misguidance - set up by the Guru hoaxers and am situated very happily in the shelter of Srila Prabhupada's lotus feet. So, you may be thinking that you are going to Godhead, but since you are not acting in accordance with Srila Prabhupada's order, it may take you many many life times..........even though Srila Prabhupada said to you that you were sincere! He said such to the today fallen "mahabhagavata's too". Again there is only ONE ABSOLUTE TRUTH, and there is ONLY ONE FINAL ORDER REGARDING CONTINUING DIKSA IN ISKCON. I wished I was wrong and by simply admitting my wrong, could take up your path, adhere to your part. But with heart and soul I am convinced that I am on ther right track and since it has been confirmed by Srila Prabhupada personally in my dream last night, I have no doubt whatsoever.......instead I am fearless to fight on behalf of Srila Prabhupada. Still wishing you all the best, yours in Srila Prabhupada's service, Krishnapriya devi dasi -------- Your accussations are false, I am only accepting disciples for the sake of exapnding Srila Prabhpuada's movement not out of any desire for followers. If you don't believe me all I can see is that you should ask Srila Prabhupada when you go back to Godhead. Srila Prabhupada said that I am a sincere devotee. You say that I am not. Therefore you are going against the words of Srila Prabhuapda. YS Sankarshan Das Adhikari Hare Krsna, It's is always too bad when one's sincerity is doubted. We are all human, so I am sure that it is natural for every kind of thought and idea to go through our minds, including other people's motivation. However, even though he does not recall our association, I knew Sankarsana das in the early 1970's in Gainesville, and he is one of the most sincere and dedicated Krsna devotees that I have ever encountered. There should be no doubt that he is qualified to initiate new devotees. He is the only devotee I ever knew who would thank people for reminding him to perform some austerity in Krsna's service, instead of saying 'mind your own business', which is what I would say. Even when I would come to the temple at 2am or 4am, depressed and stoned he always made some effort to be compassionate and at the same time engage me in some KC activity. Jaya Prabhupada, Joey --------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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