Response to: Questions to all participants

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First observations:Who is Jahnu kidding?

 

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First he says:

 

Quote:

 

Jahnu (Dvipa das JPS) (Mayapur - IN) [Jahnu (AT) pamho (DOT) net]

Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:53 AM

Sankarsana (das) ACBSP (Austin, Texas - USA); Ramakanta (das) HKS

(PAMHO.NET SysOp) (Zurich - CH); dv108 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com; july9th_77

Cc: Joey301 (AT) aol (DOT) com

Where do the ritviks come from?

 

Sankarsana prabhu wrote:

 

> Srila Prabhupada called himself the "Founder-Acharya" of ISKCON, not

> the Acharya of the ISKCON because he wanted that there should be many

> Acharyas within ISKCON. He directly ordered us to become acharyas

> within ISKCON. We humbly request Krishna Priya Mataji to stop

> presenting all of her concocted gibberish. It's time to put this

> ritvik nonsense to rest once and for all.

 

Thank you, Sankarsana prabhu, for those words. I would like to second that

and add that the ritvik nonsense was put to rest already long time ago. As

Jayadvaita Swami said in one post here, the ritvik idea was a dead horse

right from the beginning. It has never been alive.

 

Let's not forget how the ritvik idea was conceived. It was conceived from a

combination of anger and envy. I recall sometime in the mid-80s when

Nityananda and Rupa Vilasa sent out their challenging horse to the GBC in

the form of the magazine Vedic Village Review. Nityananda was angry at the

GBC because they had demanded that he take responsibility for his part in

the Robyn George case and pay the court costs, which was only reasonable

because he had been hiding the girl (who at that time was a minor) and had

been having sex with her.

 

So, greatly angry at the GBC, Nityananda (with the help of Rupa Vilasa)

conceived of the ritvik idea to turn all devotees against ISKCON and the

GBC. I guess they thought that most grand-disciples would cheer at the idea

of becoming Prabhupada disciples over night.

 

Later on Nityanda went to jail, as the petty criminal he was, and his whole

Vedic Village project crumbled. After Nityananda came out of jail he

continued his crusade against the GBC by inventing the poison rumors. That's

right, the very same person who invented the ritvik idea invented the poison

rumors. Any devotee should be able to see a pattern emerge here.

 

Anyway, the challenging horse in the form of ritvikvada was quickly slain in

a magazine put out by the GBC in response. Since then ritvikvada has been

refuted in countless papers, articles and debates, and I know of no devotees

in ISKCON who actually think the idea has any merit. The only place

ritvikvada is alive is on the net, and the only reason it keeps rearing its

head is because people like K. Kant and the IRM keep adding fuel to the

dying flame.

 

So that's where ritvikvada comes from.

 

 

Then he says:

 

Quote:

Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:43 -0500

"Jahnu (Dvipa das JPS) (Mayapur - IN)" <Jahnu (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Add to

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"Madhusudana Dasa" <july9th_77 >, BhaktaErik (AT) cs (DOT) com,

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Re: Question to all participants

 

 

 

> Jahnu dasa writes ....

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> "He didn't initiate the ritvik system in the first

> place, so your point is moot."

>

> If Srila Prabhupada didn't initiate the ritvik system

> then who did?

 

Nobody did. The only one who claims that he did, is KK Desai in TFO, and why

anyone would rather listen to him than to those who were directly trained up

by Prabhupada is beyond me.

 

 

This person speaks with a FORKED TONGUE!

 

Obviously he is on a mission to blame any Ritvik without discretion.

First he blames Nityananda then says NOBODY DID.

He seems to be contradicting himself and is on a mission to discredit ritvik

oder by any means.

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